GolfHos

OMG...  so far on,  at least in awesome memorable 1liners,  Obama is up 3-1

this is gonna be prime commercial material this weekend

HOLY *feces*  Obama just pimpslapped  McCain  on EERAK   and all McCain can do is tell anecdotes.

MCCAIN JUST BRAGGING ABOUT HELPING THE AFGHAN FREEDOM FIGHTERS IN AFGHANISTAN.


MCCAIN SAYING OBAMA IS WRONG FOR THREATENING PAKISTAN WHILE PALIN ENDORSES ATTACKING RUSSIA


OBAMA   JUST PUNKED MCCHIMP  ON BOMBBOMBBOMB IRAN

So how drunk are you at this point?

very, my friend.

god i hate this chimpy GOP iran talking point about  holocaust pt 2.

if iran hats JEWS why do so many live  peacefully  ... IN *goshdarn* IRAN!!?>!>!>!

wanting to eliminate the nation of Israel  is not the same as a genocide, per se.

McChimp   can't even pronounce  Ahmadinejad

OBAMA JUST OWNED MCCHIMP ON KISSINGER + IRAN.

OBAMA JUST PIMP SLAPPED MCCAIN ABOUT THE SPAIN/NATO    GAFFE.

MCCAIN CLAIMS ALBRIGHT GOING TO NORTH KOREA ......   wasn't that during CLINTON's TERM?
oops

OBAMA PIMPSLAPS  MCCHIMP ABOUT THINKING AHMADKJSDFLJTEIOTUWIOETJAD   IS NOT TOP DOG IN IRAN.  MCCAIN APPEARS ANGRY.

MCCHIMP  CALLING GEORGIA_RUSSIA  ALL ON RUSSIA.
 [sm_shock]


THEN CALLS OBAMA NAIVE.
 [sm_shock]

 :o :o

JOHN MCSAME JUST CALLED KIM JONG IL  "DEAR LEADER"
 [sm_shock] [sm_shock] [sm_shock] [sm_shock]

MCCAIN JUST SAID  RUSSIA IS NOT A DEMOCRACY    [sm_shock]

MCCAIN SAYS HE IS AGAINST TORTURE AGAIN ?
 ???

MCCAIN's entire strategy :  OBAMA IS YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED.

repeat x 1000



MCCAIN CLAIMING HE's SERVED VETERANS WELL ?

OBAMA WIPED MCCHIMP AROUND TONIGHT, about 10 awesome points to 2.

So is it over? Is it safe to turn the TV on now?

LOL

Objectively, on style points and how I think this plays with the people, I give McBain a slight edge. This was no knockout, and I don't think there was any real blood, but I still think McBain comes out stronger now than he was this afternoon.

And yes, McBain's style was predictable with fill in the blank attacks; Obama doesn't understand ______ and I do because I have been here one million years.

Sadly, you may be right. The dumbasses in the country will get taken in by all of McFlipper's irrelevant anecdotes (that were so obviously used to change the subject when he got backed into a corner) and his repeated use of "Obama doesn't understand" soundbite. I can't believe Obama didn't just once say "But I do understand, Mr. McCain. Constantly repeating the same thing and over again doesn't suddently make it true."

next debate Obama really needs to whip out the Keating 5  card

well,  I (for once, not the cynic here  :o !!)  don't see McCain coming out ahead in this debate in any way.  This debate(s) is to convince those 5-10% of voters who are still undecideds  or the 1-2% who are firmly committed along party lines but can be flipped when actually hearing/seeing these people talk--- certainly not the vast majority of people.  And I think to those undecideds-- the "independents", the ones who actually vote both parties every year, etc...   McCain came out horrible IMHO.  He had very few 'Oh Snap!" moments, he got brutally owned on the economy intro, he got brutally owned on EERAK, and at best, "won" the rest of foreign policy by telling anecdotes and saying "You don't understand" ...  while this will certainly make those of us already committed to our votes  even more committed (most likely) I doubt this sways the undecideds... McCain is SUPPOSED to be the Foreign Policy expert and at times sounded confused and got belligerent when Obama wasn't caving in. Can you imagine him acting like that with a foreign head of state?    Anyways http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/2008Debate1.pdf   this made my morning, of course who knows what kind of trust can be put in it... but one can "hope".   McCain missed his chance to hit a homerun on this debate, no doubt... and barring a scandal or some other major milestone, this was his last chance to hit a homerun.  I think Monday/Tuesday polling will show no change or at best a 1% McCain swing, which will go away as the next debates carry out.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/26/04449/8507/372/610847

couric says kissinger ok with negotiating without pre-conditions.


oops for you McCain.  Obama is going to run with this ASAP.


another source
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/kissinger-backs.html

http://news.yahoo.com/s/pew/20080925/ts_pew/46dontknowobamaischristian

scratch what i just said earlier, i'm back to cynical d+G   aske.

pathetic.

Instead of simply looking at the voting split along gender and/or economic lines, poll analysts need to seriously start examining the split along the moran/non-moran line.

Wait 'til the VP's duke it out, that's really when the fun starts.

FWIW, I haven't followed much of the early campaigning of either party.  I'm registered as "Unaffiliated" in NC.  I *think* I'm pretty much the demographic these guys are trying to reach in the debates.

I watched it and thought it was pretty even.  Neither candidate came across as lost, hopelessly out of touch, insincere, etc.  McCain seemed more aggressive, which I'm not big on.  I especially did not like the repeated "doesn't understand" charge -- I'll decide if he doesn't understand, thanks, and don't talk down to me.  Both guys stretched the truth or took things out of context to "punk" the other; that didn't do either one much good in my eyes.

This debate wasn't enough to push me firmly in either direction.  Then again, I wasn't drunk when I watched it.

FWIW
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_debate_no_1.html

http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=3904527

find post timestamped 2008-09-28 06:17:26 AM

it's tragic that you can't find such beautiful, true, and yet simplistically verbose analysis in the "evil librul MSM" about this critical point.

I'm kinda in the same demo as Clive. And pardon if someone has said this, but putting all the politicking aside, there is something about McCain not looking Obama in the eye that gets to me, there is also this uneasy smile he has.

IMO, McGrommits won handily, by not failing miserably

I now totally understand his campaign strategy.  It is to stumble and bumble his way around, then look halfway reasonable at these debates, thereby exceeding everyone's expectations and proving the media pundits hate him and are ruthlessly antagonistic towards Gov. Mother Sarah.

This sort of thing solidifies the base the way a blood clots congeal in a cadaver.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/27/politics/fromtheroad/entry4483098.shtml

McChicken calls Obama the exploiter.  LMAO

LMAO

Clive, there's a huge difference between being a registered as an Independent or Unaffiliated and being "undecided". I'm registered as an Independent, but at this point you'd have to put a gun to my head to force me to vote for McCain. (And I say this because I don't foresee anything happening in the next 40+ days that would be considered a "game changer". If the Repugs are going to release a video of Obama shaking hands with Bin Laden, they would have done it by now.)

Out of curiosity, if you truly are undecided, what do you think it would take to swing your vote either way?

All Obama had to do was not look stupid, which he did quite well, and not look 'Uppity'.

Now all he has to do is spend the next 5 weeks saying:

'John McCain is a Republican, and look where that got us.'

Message discipline is key right now.