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Title: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: stroh on November 02, 2007, 10:24:26 AM
I was contacted by a recruiter/headhunter a while back.  After some deliberation(and help), I forwarded a resume.  I was never that serious, and after an initial HR interview, I withdrew myself from consideration.  Glad I did.  They were never gonna pay me what I get now, the commute would have been ludicrous, and the position was to manage an upstart imaging center.  No, thanks.
I know the guy who got the job, and he has been in contact with me several times since getting the position, asking for advise, etc.  From what he's telling me/ going through, my decision to abstain has been more than placated.  I am more than happy to help him any way I can.  He's a good guy, and I hope he does well with it.


The reason for the post:
With that experience, my juices have been stirred.  I have long considered veering from the field, and pursuing a career path different, but parallel.  A medical device, or technologies company.  I have always shied away because I feared it was to great a leap from my comfort zone, and those positions usually require a great deal of travel, which would disrupt the nuclear family life we enjoy.

Well, damn the institution.  I threw caution to the wind and sent a resume to one of them, that a couple of colleagues left the field for, and have been comfortably in their employ for some years now.

We'll see if they even contact me.  If they do, I'll have some soul searching to do, and definitely some decisions to mull.  I think somewhere inside, I must be ready, and or need to make this change, or I would not of made the initiation.  We'll see.


".......what's in there?"     "Only what you take with you."
bby8FFN8C_Y


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Fuzzy on November 02, 2007, 10:35:24 AM
Good for you! Perhaps our resumes will pass each other in cyberspace  [sm_shock] :-X   (I could've posted the same thing about a month ago)

And FWIW, there are positives to business travel. It totally disrupts the family routine but after 12 years I actually look forward to some trips. But I wouldn't want to travel any more than I do today.



Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: spacey on November 02, 2007, 10:47:41 AM
Good luck.  [sm_beertoast]

I've been forwarding my resume for a while now, but am in a very limited field with very specific experience, so not too much luck yet. Hopefully you'll do better.


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Aske on November 02, 2007, 10:49:27 AM
good luck.


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Teed on November 02, 2007, 10:50:38 AM
good luck 2 you!


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Spanky on November 02, 2007, 10:53:04 AM
Good luck man


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Walfredo on November 02, 2007, 11:21:52 AM
Good luck [sm_beertoast]


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: birdymaker on November 02, 2007, 12:22:02 PM
i thought you were going MORMON. [sm_shock] ;D


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: stroh on November 02, 2007, 12:29:11 PM
i thought you were going MORMON. [sm_shock] ;D


MORAN.


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: dystopia on November 02, 2007, 12:38:32 PM
 [sm_thumbsup2]

I'm a big fan of keeping feelers out there in the job market.  If not to actively find something else, at least to appreciate the job you currently have.

Then again, I've been at my current gig for way too long, but they're dangling a nice carrot at the 5 year mark (which should be at the end of this year)


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Seamus on November 02, 2007, 08:44:01 PM
i didn't see this before i asked you in chat.

sitting where i'm sitting, right now, today, after experiencing what i've experienced the last 6 months.

i say leap from your comfort zone brother and don' look back.


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: lennyquai on November 02, 2007, 11:05:34 PM
Medtronics?  My brother works for them in Denver, thinking he might transfer to MN at some point; he has said they are a very cool company to work with.


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Eagleone on November 03, 2007, 05:22:52 AM
Good Luck.


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: PaunchyBald on November 03, 2007, 06:24:33 AM
Well fella's,  I took the leap from the comfort zone about a month ago.  Monday I start a new job in Des Moines, Iowa.  After two weeks, I on the road and home weekends, If I choose to be.  Totally new experience for me, totally new field of work.   [sm_scratch]



Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Seamus on November 03, 2007, 07:40:34 AM
Well fella's,  I took the leap from the comfort zone about a month ago.  Monday I start a new job in Des Moines, Iowa.  After two weeks, I on the road and home weekends, If I choose to be.  Totally new experience for me, totally new field of work.   [sm_scratch]
I hear thee...drive safe Paunchy.


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: stroh on November 03, 2007, 08:34:41 AM
Thanks for the well wishes everyone.  We'll see if they even call.  :P
At least it's a step.  Every journey bull*feces*.

Medtronics?  My brother works for them in Denver, thinking he might transfer to MN at some point; he has said they are a very cool company to work with.

Not Medtronic.  Would be nice, their new world corporate headquarters is right up the road.  *fudge*ers took out a golf course to build it.  Oh, the shame.   [sm_protest] :nono: But they don't have anything related to "what I do", even if I did jump to one of their product vendor type sales/app.s positions, they want at least a bachelor's degree, which I ain't got.

The company I'm looking into is Vital Images  (http://www.vitalimages.com/home.aspx)  They have a proprietary stand alone 3d processing software that's used to display, measure, and quantify all of the data obtained in imaging scans.  Primarily CT, and MR.  I have been using/doing those types of applications for years, I would like to get a job with them, where I would go out and teach other people how to do it.
The friend I worked with took a job with them doing exactly that.  Then he moved up to educated the people who educate the customers, and now he has moved up to manage the people who educate the people who educate the people. Wester zone manager of clinical education.  Pretty good gig if you can get it.

i didn't see this before i asked you in chat.

sitting where i'm sitting, right now, today, after experiencing what i've experienced the last 6 months.

i say leap from your comfort zone brother and don' look back.

Thanks brother.  My plight seems fairly trivial when I think about what you and paunchy have/had to go through.
(sorry I left you hangin' last night.  Things weren't so good in the stroh household last night.  >:( )

As always, I'll keep you  :airquotes: posted  :airquotes:  LOL.  Oh, *feces* I'm a genius.  I crack myself up.


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: stroh on December 11, 2007, 07:17:50 PM
Spent 2 hours on the phone with a manager.  A guy I used to work with (and trained, ironically).

 We'll see.  The position is in the air.  Should know by the first of the year.  He said I was in for an interview for sure if the position is static.

Karen is not happy. ::)  Go figure.   First she was all 'Well see what they say....blah, blah'  After 2 hours on the phone (this was close friend, and drinking buddy, but haven't seen each other in 4+years) she's all........'We just need some stability.  You always want what you think is greener'

WTF?  Like I said, we'll see if I even get a call. :P


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Aske on December 11, 2007, 07:23:55 PM
Spent 2 hours on the phone with a manager.  A guy I used to work with (and trained, ironically).

 We'll see.  The position is in the air.  Should know by the first of the year.  He said I was in for an interview for sure if the position is static.

Karen is not happy. ::)  Go figure.   First she was all 'Well see what they say....blah, blah'  After 2 hours on the phone (this was close friend, and drinking buddy, but haven't seen each other in 4+years) she's all........'We just need some stability.  You always want what you think is greener'

WTF?  Like I said, we'll see if I even get a call. :P


good luck man !
 ;D


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Fuzzy on December 11, 2007, 07:46:38 PM
Good Luck Mike!




Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Clive on December 11, 2007, 08:03:13 PM
The positive thing is, you have strong skills in an area that's always more or less in demand.  A lot of folks don't have that safety net to work over.

Good luck with the juices and with Karen.


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Blader on December 12, 2007, 06:19:11 AM
What a stunning coincidence! 

An 'entity' has 'given me the holidays' to mull their offer, one involving a major transition..... shedding a comfortable cocoon and all that.

Then, just yesterday, out of the blue...I get an email from a guy at Medtronic out in Santa Rosa, of all places, saying he's got a position they'd like me to consider and asking for my vitae.

It's almost as if people out there can pick up the scent of the 20 year itch on a continent-wide scale.



Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Blader on December 12, 2007, 06:24:01 AM
As a matter of fact, I'm about to slip out the back stairwell at One Blader Plaza, and head over to the golf club, to mull this transition over 18 holes in spectacular tropical weather.


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: stroh on December 12, 2007, 06:28:10 AM
What a stunning coincidence! 

An 'entity' has 'given me the holidays' to mull their offer, one involving a major transition..... shedding a comfortable cocoon and all that.

Then, just yesterday, out of the blue...I get an email from a guy at Medtronic out in Santa Rosa, of all places, saying he's got a position they'd like me to consider and asking for my vitae.

It's almost as if people out there can pick up the scent of the 20 year itch on a continent-wide scale.



Congrat.s  Good luck to you as well.  I can imagine that with your tenure, it would be an extremely difficult decision.

An interesting side note(or major decision yea/nae point depending on how you(I) look at it)  The position is 40 - 60 % travel nationwide.  Anywhere someone has a scanner(which is everywhere), and buys this hardware and software(which hopefully would be everywhere) I'd fly out and teach 'em how to use it.  So I would have the opportunity to hop all around the country and finally meet everybody here.  Maybe squeeze in a business round of golf, or at the very least throw a few back.

As cool as that seems, I need to decide If I want to be away from my family and traveling that much.  Might be a tough time to do it with a 9 year old girl in 4th grade.


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Uisce Beatha on December 12, 2007, 06:48:25 AM
Well... since you asked.   ;)

"Contrary bastard, please pick up the white courtesy phone."

Here goes...

Life's too short and when you get right down to it NOTHING matters beyond those two or three things close to your heart.  For some that might be career and money but for you it's clearly wife, kids and cheap beer.  I spent my son's first few years working 10+ hours a day at a job 45+ minutes from home.  Sure I was home on weekends but I missed out on so much - including nightly dinners.  What you're looking at with travel and so forth would be much worse. 

You're right at the age at which I figured out what really was important.  I have a lot of regrets it took as long as it did.  If you're asking for votes I say *feces*-can any offer that requires travel or long hours.  Enjoy your family, live within your means and don't look back.

(http://www.thepatterntrain.com/images/SS305.jpg)



Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: stroh on December 12, 2007, 07:35:57 AM
Appreciate it Whiskers.  I need to hear and weigh both sides.
I had a very quick phone interview with Toshiba, where the lady was very experienced and said "Let's do this first:  tell me about your family."  I obliged.  She basically said, stay home and raise your daughter.  This job is not for you.

Having said that, that particular job was traveling around 90 percent.


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Clive on December 12, 2007, 07:55:37 AM
I had a very quick phone interview with Toshiba, where the lady was very experienced and said "Let's do this first:  tell me about your family."  I obliged.  She basically said, stay home and raise your daughter.  This job is not for you.
That's a cool way to interview and screen.

FWIW, and not intended to sway you wither way, but I would lose whatever little respect I do have for you if you took a job that involved that much travel.

OK, maybe I was too diplomatic.


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Seamus on December 12, 2007, 09:43:26 AM
Uisce Beatha is our Yoda. He's an old soul and wise he is.

But I see a different side to the coin, and I've already said my peace.

The travel aspect of this particular job for you seems just too much, gone 50% of the time, nope sorry, Maddie's too young, a young girl needs a strong father figure in their life (especially for the next few years ahead), or it seems they turn out slightly askew. I remember having to travel ONCE for my old job, the girls were 3 and 4 and I was gone for 3 weeks straight, I just about died, seriously, the missing them was just overwhelming, and to top it off staring at a hotel wall just about drove me mad.

Keep looking, keep listening to headhunters, maybe this one's not for you, but don't stop trying, especially if you're not happy where you're at, it's possible to become trapped in a work environment and not get out, I think it is anyway, and then somewhere down the road they might kick you to the curb, leave on your terms, there's a power in that.


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Spanky on December 12, 2007, 09:47:15 AM
Everyone I know that worked a traveling job now does not. Traveling takes it's toll.

Ultimately the words of advice from virtual friends mean *feces*. What your wife tells you is all that matters.


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Seamus on December 12, 2007, 10:04:57 AM
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What your wife tells you is all that matters.
Hate to disagree, so I won't, just enough to say it's not ALL that matters.


Title: Re: Pulled (A) Trigger.
Post by: Spanky on December 12, 2007, 10:11:35 AM
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What your wife tells you is all that matters.
Hate to disagree, so I won't, just enough to say it's not ALL that matters.
I'll give you that. I know of a couple wives that I would choose to ignore, and do.