Title: Unbeaten
Post by: Uisce Beatha on February 25, 2008, 08:23:33 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/golf/7262824.stm
Irish bookmakers have Woods at 12-1 on the Grand Slam. The only player who gets better odds than that on any SINGLE major is Phil at the US Open (10-1). They simply don't want your bet if you're backing Tiger.
Amazing. If he were to pull off an unbeaten season it would be the greatest accomplishment in the history of sport. Tiger in his 30s will easily be the greatest decade in the history of golf. It's like watching man land on the moon boys. Don't be haters... enjoy it.
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Asked if he could win every tournament from now, he said: "That's my intent."
Irish bookmakers have Woods at 12-1 on the Grand Slam. The only player who gets better odds than that on any SINGLE major is Phil at the US Open (10-1). They simply don't want your bet if you're backing Tiger.
Amazing. If he were to pull off an unbeaten season it would be the greatest accomplishment in the history of sport. Tiger in his 30s will easily be the greatest decade in the history of golf. It's like watching man land on the moon boys. Don't be haters... enjoy it.
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: stroh on February 25, 2008, 08:32:38 PM
Totally agree. There are plenty of haters, but I think there is little doubt that 50 years from now fathers and grandfathers will be telling stories of how they "saw" what this man did. Akin to Ruth, Ali, Kofax, Sea Biscuit, et al.
I'm anxious to see this season. I think it may well eclipse 2k.
The Modern Grand Slam, while improbable (even for him) is not impossible.
Not unlike Brady coming back next season and hitting that 19er.....eh gleek? :finger:
I'm anxious to see this season. I think it may well eclipse 2k.
The Modern Grand Slam, while improbable (even for him) is not impossible.
Not unlike Brady coming back next season and hitting that 19er.....eh gleek? :finger:
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Aske on February 25, 2008, 08:38:24 PM
you guys think he's so great, i'll take the field on preventing the slam vs him taking it .
i send you a sleeve of balls vs. you attend a concert of my choosing. [sm_devil]
i send you a sleeve of balls vs. you attend a concert of my choosing. [sm_devil]
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: stroh on February 25, 2008, 08:39:08 PM
No.
For so many reasons. ;D
For so many reasons. ;D
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: stroh on February 25, 2008, 08:40:54 PM
Seriously, though. That statement alone.......... Having to bet "The Field" against one guy.
(not a statement on you, just remarking on the scope of what he bring to the table/a tournament)
(not a statement on you, just remarking on the scope of what he bring to the table/a tournament)
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: spacey on February 25, 2008, 08:47:17 PM
you guys think he's so great, i'll take the field on preventing the slam vs him taking it .
i send you a sleeve of balls vs. you attend a concert of my choosing. [sm_devil]
Given the likelihood of any of your favs hitting SLC, I'd probably take that bet. 8)i send you a sleeve of balls vs. you attend a concert of my choosing. [sm_devil]
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Uisce Beatha on February 25, 2008, 08:50:02 PM
you guys think he's so great, i'll take the field on preventing the slam vs him taking it .
i send you a sleeve of balls vs. you attend a concert of my choosing. [sm_devil]
i send you a sleeve of balls vs. you attend a concert of my choosing. [sm_devil]
12-1 is not a bet worth taking simply because the payout isn't there. I'm not saying they're anything other than reasonable odds though.
Hater. 8)
This year is geared for him in a big way. Other than Oakland Hills I figure he's close to a sure thing.
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Seamus on February 25, 2008, 09:38:57 PM
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you guys think he's so great, i'll take the field on preventing the slam vs him taking it .
I'll take that bet. As I sit here right now, I think he's got the field beat for the first two majors, the funny thing is I believe the field believes he has them beat, it's becoming more and more obvious. I don't care how "the field" wants to spin it, they know he has them beat before anyone even tees off.
Barring some unforeseen injury.
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Seamus on February 25, 2008, 10:01:48 PM
Ps. Explain the bet to me though as I am wager challenged.
If Tiger (Me) wins the grand slam, (quite possibly) THE hardest thing in all of sports. I get a sleeve of balls.
If the field (you) wins I have to pay 100 dollars to go see Cannibal Corpse/Cryptopsy/Darkthrone/Deicide/Dismember?
Something seems outta' whack daddy-o.
If Tiger (Me) wins the grand slam, (quite possibly) THE hardest thing in all of sports. I get a sleeve of balls.
If the field (you) wins I have to pay 100 dollars to go see Cannibal Corpse/Cryptopsy/Darkthrone/Deicide/Dismember?
Something seems outta' whack daddy-o.
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Uisce Beatha on February 26, 2008, 07:10:48 AM
Something seems outta' whack daddy-o.
While our young doctor is usually cogent, witty, affable and the epitome of logical thought it seems his faculties desert him when it comes to The Nike'd One. It could be his fatal flaw. Stay tuned for Act III.
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Walfredo on February 26, 2008, 07:54:50 AM
I like watching Tiger play but it is nice when someone is near him to make it a challenge. I just don't care to see him win by 6+ strokes. But the matches with Holmes and Baddaley were great. I'm sure he'll have a great chance of winning them all and just might. But it would be nice if other guys have a chance too so the final round will have at least some drama. Or as much drama as, Tiger is most likely going to win but how will he do it this time, can offer.
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: stroh on February 26, 2008, 08:14:22 AM
People say they don't want Tiger running away with tournaments, but those feats are by definition a display of the greatness that is in debate. Had Tiger won in '97 by 1 stroke, would he be the source of such conversation today? The Open at Pebble? Without the runaway step on testicles factor, he's just another really good golfer who has won a lot. A male Annika. She's good, but she doesn't master a field, or change it's outcome just by showing up.
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: spacey on February 26, 2008, 08:59:10 AM
My biggest problem with Tiger is hardly Tiger's fault. Even when he's running in the middle of the pack, he commands a grossly disproportionate amount of air-time and fawning commentary. Hell, even when he's not playing they still spend a lot of time talking about him. Of course I realize that some huge percentage of casual golf viewers tune in just to see what/how Tiger's doing so the broadcast team is simply giving their viewers what they want. Like I say, it's not really Tiger's fault.
That being said, dude's a remarkable talent and amazing to watch, particularly when he's shooting lights out. I still prefer to see a competitive match rather than watching the rest of the pack battle for a distant 2nd place. Again, though, Tiger just goes out and does what he does, it's not his fault when no one stands up to him.
That being said, dude's a remarkable talent and amazing to watch, particularly when he's shooting lights out. I still prefer to see a competitive match rather than watching the rest of the pack battle for a distant 2nd place. Again, though, Tiger just goes out and does what he does, it's not his fault when no one stands up to him.
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Torpedo on February 26, 2008, 10:29:16 AM
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Torpedo on February 26, 2008, 10:31:18 AM
Ps. Explain the bet to me though as I am wager challenged.
If Tiger (Me) wins the grand slam, (quite possibly) THE hardest thing in all of sports. I get a sleeve of balls.
If the field (you) wins I have to pay 100 dollars to go see Cannibal Corpse/Cryptopsy/Darkthrone/Deicide/Dismember?
Something seems outta' whack daddy-o.
If Tiger (Me) wins the grand slam, (quite possibly) THE hardest thing in all of sports. I get a sleeve of balls.
If the field (you) wins I have to pay 100 dollars to go see Cannibal Corpse/Cryptopsy/Darkthrone/Deicide/Dismember?
Something seems outta' whack daddy-o.
How about if you win, Dystopia has to take 10,000 posts away from Aske and give them to you. ;D ;)
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Aske on February 26, 2008, 10:47:40 AM
Ps. Explain the bet to me though as I am wager challenged.
If Tiger (Me) wins the grand slam, (quite possibly) THE hardest thing in all of sports. I get a sleeve of balls.
If the field (you) wins I have to pay 100 dollars to go see Cannibal Corpse/Cryptopsy/Darkthrone/Deicide/Dismember?
Something seems outta' whack daddy-o.
If Tiger (Me) wins the grand slam, (quite possibly) THE hardest thing in all of sports. I get a sleeve of balls.
If the field (you) wins I have to pay 100 dollars to go see Cannibal Corpse/Cryptopsy/Darkthrone/Deicide/Dismember?
Something seems outta' whack daddy-o.
ok, point #1, it was a bit late and intoxicated when i typed that. I meant a BOX of balls, to begin with.
and #2, those shows wouldn't come close to costing $100 (well maybe if you're in the boonies and gasoline... but hey, that's life!)
more like $20-$30
so the overall payoff odds are likely somewhere between 1:1 and 2:1 depending on the exact ticket price and the type of balls you want and blah blah. seems fair to me since he's so great and has it locked up
[sm_devil]
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: stroh on February 26, 2008, 10:54:51 AM
Curious (if you feel like expounding) on the root, and or reasoning for your dislike of Woods.
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Fuzzy on February 26, 2008, 10:58:19 AM
My biggest problem with Tiger is hardly Tiger's fault. Even when he's running in the middle of the pack, he commands a grossly disproportionate amount of air-time and fawning commentary. Hell, even when he's not playing they still spend a lot of time talking about him. Of course I realize that some huge percentage of casual golf viewers tune in just to see what/how Tiger's doing so the broadcast team is simply giving their viewers what they want. Like I say, it's not really Tiger's fault.
That being said, dude's a remarkable talent and amazing to watch, particularly when he's shooting lights out. I still prefer to see a competitive match rather than watching the rest of the pack battle for a distant 2nd place. Again, though, Tiger just goes out and does what he does, it's not his fault when no one stands up to him.
That being said, dude's a remarkable talent and amazing to watch, particularly when he's shooting lights out. I still prefer to see a competitive match rather than watching the rest of the pack battle for a distant 2nd place. Again, though, Tiger just goes out and does what he does, it's not his fault when no one stands up to him.
Well stated. We are watching history in the making but the media coverage is well over the top.
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Torpedo on February 26, 2008, 11:07:24 AM
Curious (if you feel like expounding) on the root, and or reasoning for your dislike of Woods.
Tiger played Aske in chess once and won ... ;)
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Aske on February 26, 2008, 11:13:34 AM
Curious (if you feel like expounding) on the root, and or reasoning for your dislike of Woods.
overmediasaturated from day1, *bunghole* on the course, and megarich (probably dodging his taxes with crazy offshores and loopholes)
[sm_devil]
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Torpedo on February 26, 2008, 11:14:51 AM
overmediasaturated from day1, ***** on the course, and megarich (probably dodging his taxes with crazy offshores and loopholes)
[sm_devil]
[sm_devil]
And he beat you in chess. ;)
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Aske on February 26, 2008, 11:17:34 AM
overmediasaturated from day1, ***** on the course, and megarich (probably dodging his taxes with crazy offshores and loopholes)
[sm_devil]
[sm_devil]
And he beat you in chess. ;)
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Torpedo on February 26, 2008, 11:18:52 AM
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Fuzzy on February 26, 2008, 11:23:23 AM
Curious (if you feel like expounding) on the root, and or reasoning for your dislike of Woods.
overmediasaturated from day1, *bunghole* on the course, and megarich (probably dodging his taxes with crazy offshores and loopholes)
[sm_devil]
[sm_shock]
The fact that his every move is captured (cue the overmediasaturation of which I agree) has to factor in. It's one argument I just don't buy as I submit he is no different than most. And not even close to being considered an a-hole. Just my opinion.
And somehow I just knew his being wealthy grated on you. [sm_devil] ;) :) Don't you at least have to give some grudging respect for the work he's put in to make his money? He definitely was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Clive on February 26, 2008, 11:28:42 AM
My biggest problem with Tiger is hardly Tiger's fault. Even when he's running in the middle of the pack, he commands a grossly disproportionate amount of air-time and fawning commentary. Hell, even when he's not playing they still spend a lot of time talking about him. Of course I realize that some huge percentage of casual golf viewers tune in just to see what/how Tiger's doing so the broadcast team is simply giving their viewers what they want. Like I say, it's not really Tiger's fault.
I might point out, then, that your problem isn't with Tiger at all, but with the networks.Putting aside the fans who only watch golf on TV to see Tiger Woods (is that even such a high percentage of the total?), the Number 1 player in the world having the wheels come off is news, too. Same happened with Palmer, Nicklaus, Watson, ...
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: spacey on February 26, 2008, 11:35:15 AM
I might point out, then, that your problem isn't with Tiger at all, but with the networks.
Indeed.Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Seamus on February 26, 2008, 05:06:02 PM
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so my proposed overall payoff odds are likely somewhere between 1:1 and 2:1 depending on the exact ticket price and the type of balls you want and blah blah. seems fair to me since he's so great and has it locked up.
I guess I'm more wager challenged than I thought, but let me type this out so I can see it in writing. Over the course of the 4 major tournaments I'm giving you approximately 560 players (155 x 3 majors/ + approx. 90-100 at the Masters)) to beat my one guy. 560/1 and the best odds you can give me is even money?
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How about if you win, Dystopia has to take 10,000 posts away from Aske and give them to you.
Can't do that, that's just not fair to the good Dr., he's worked hard getting those posts so high and I couldn't/wouldn't want to be the reason his posts were removed, especially over a silly bet.This isn't about money, and this isn't about golf balls, and it's not about going to see Deicide or The Crypt Kicker 5, or whatever.
If I win I want you dressed in a Seahawk jersey that I will provide (to be returned) and I want you in a Nike TW Cap that you will purchase, and I want you holding an "I Love Tiger Woods Sign" and I want a good picture, no fingers, no silly faces, no devil horns, I want you smiling.
If I lose I will go see whatever Death Metal band hits Seattle this year, or you may come up with another counter offer.
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Clive on February 26, 2008, 05:53:23 PM
Proper sports betting requires one thing. Permit me to append this primer:
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: stroh on February 26, 2008, 06:00:57 PM
Proper sports betting requires one thing. Permit me to append this primer:
Now it makes sense. I had always been told before when I tried to place a sports bet; Kid, you don't have the balls to make that bet. So I never did.Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: twoiron on February 26, 2008, 06:11:55 PM
Tiger can eat my fat one as far as I'm concerned!!!
He has yet to win in all parts of the World, such as Plamer, Nicklaus, Watson, Player, Norman and Els.
Of the current era at least Ernie makes an effort to come down here regularly, other than for the Presidents Cup a few years back.
Tiger played a tournament here once and was beaten by the course and hasn't been back since!!
As for Phil, that tubby bitch wouldn't have a clue where Australia is.
I'd also be prepared to tip the field vs Tiger winning the Grand Slam.
:o
He has yet to win in all parts of the World, such as Plamer, Nicklaus, Watson, Player, Norman and Els.
Of the current era at least Ernie makes an effort to come down here regularly, other than for the Presidents Cup a few years back.
Tiger played a tournament here once and was beaten by the course and hasn't been back since!!
As for Phil, that tubby bitch wouldn't have a clue where Australia is.
I'd also be prepared to tip the field vs Tiger winning the Grand Slam.
:o
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Seamus on February 26, 2008, 06:36:05 PM
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I'd also be prepared to tip the field vs Tiger winning the Grand Slam.
Are you prepared to bet at a 12:1 ratio?
Like say you send me the South African dame, I send you my sister.
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Uisce Beatha on February 26, 2008, 06:41:13 PM
Of the current era at least Ernie makes an effort to come down here regularly...
Ernie's gotta get his wins somewhere after all. ;) [sm_devil]
You know, I tend to think of Tiger as a pretty good ambassador world-wide. Obviously he gets the appearance fees and such but still, he does Europe, Dubai and the Far East regularly. You're right though, you rarely hear about him going near Australia although he did go hang out with Stevie in Enzed a couple of years ago.
LMAO @ Seamie. ;D
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Clive on February 26, 2008, 07:05:09 PM
As for Phil, that tubby bitch wouldn't have a clue where Australia is.
Why don't you set out a bag of doughnuts (and maybe $3 million)? He can probably find his way to those.Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Aske on February 26, 2008, 08:18:05 PM
sorry seamus, i might consider the TW *feces*-gear, but i'd have to kill myself for wearing a hags jersey (if some natives didn't off me 1st.) . it's one thing to do things you don't like, it's quite another to sacrifice all dignity.
[sm_devil]
[sm_devil]
Title: Re: Unbeaten
Post by: Seamus on February 27, 2008, 09:11:08 AM
sorry seamus, i might consider the TW *feces*-gear, but i'd have to kill myself for wearing a hags jersey (if some natives didn't off me 1st.) . it's one thing to do things you don't like, it's quite another to sacrifice all dignity.
Yeah the Hawks jersey didn't quite fit into the scope of either our forum or the actual bet itself, wishful thinking.But it has to be replaced with some sort of TW gear, I would suggest a plain white t-shirt with a large red heart and a huge TW in the middle of that heart, strategically placed over your heart, for all of Hos to see, oh And the TW hat. I of course would be open to something equally amusing.
560/1 c'mon you're a betting man.
Seriously what are the chances you're going to lose, I even admit the Grand Slam is possible not probable.