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Title: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: Aske on January 24, 2008, 07:55:33 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/24/AR2008012400532.html?hpid=topnews

and also now it favors those with children.


i'll be sure go out and spend that $300... it might buy a tank of gas
 
 ::)


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: gleek on January 24, 2008, 08:17:21 AM
For most people, $300 will probably cover their credit card payment for one month. I don't know if people will necessarily spend this money, especially if there's talk of a recession. I think people will be more inclined to pay down debt rather than to spend more money. Ironically, the only people that would probably just spend the money are those that don't really need the rebate in the first place.

If the government wants to stimulate the economy, maybe these rebates should come in the form of Best Buy or Target gift cards.


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: Aske on January 24, 2008, 08:21:44 AM
that $70B in corporate assistance will sure help too.  that, and allowing the mortgage co's to expand their acquisition range up to $700k instead of $415k


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: stroh on January 24, 2008, 08:25:50 AM
This is the big economic bailout?  Giving people 3 hundo?

Great, now all I need is for 101 clown cars to pool their money to make up the difference is the market value drop when they buy my house.


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: hobbit on January 24, 2008, 09:22:45 AM
This is the big economic bailout?  Giving people 3 hundo?

Granted, its a bit rediculous, but.....

Most workers would receive rebates of $600 each, or $1,200 per couple. Families with children would receive an additional payment of $300 per child.



Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: hobbit on January 24, 2008, 09:26:19 AM
If the government wants to stimulate the economy, maybe these rebates should come in the form of Best Buy or Target gift cards.

Now you're talkin!  :D



Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: Aske on January 24, 2008, 09:58:41 AM
If the government wants to stimulate the economy, maybe these rebates should come in the form of Best Buy or Target gift cards.

Now you're talkin!  :D



ahhh yeh boooooyyyy! ,  go buy a bunch of chinese goods  !


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: Clive on January 24, 2008, 10:37:12 AM
ahhh yeh boooooyyyy! ,  go buy a bunch of chinese goods  !
Would it be bad if I used the rebate to buy Triumph aftermarket crap from a UK vendor's e-tailer site?


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: stroh on January 24, 2008, 10:40:29 AM
I'm like totally buyin' stuff.


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: Clive on January 24, 2008, 10:43:28 AM
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Much of the stimulus will come in the form of tax rebates to both businesses and individual tax payers. According to reports from The Associated Press and The Washington Post, individuals earning less than $75,000 would receive a $300 rebate. Families -- households with children -- earning less than $150,000 would receive $600, and $300 for each child up to two.

Many economists have said that among plans to stimulate the economy, favoring low- and middle-income earners is the most likely to have immediate results. Low-income earners remain less likely to save. The Wall Street Journal recently reported that many of the tax rebates in 2003 went toward savings, not spending.

LINK (http://www.thestreet.com/s/bush-congress-agree-on-tax-rebates-to-stimulate-economy/markets/marketfeatures/10400255.html?puc=googlefi)

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Sources on Capitol Hill and at the Treasury Department said congressional and White House negotiators agreed upon checks of $600 per individual and $1,200 per couple who paid income tax and who filed jointly.  People who did not pay federal income taxes but who had earned income of more than $3,000 would get checks of $300 per individual or $600 per couple.  A Democratic aide and Republican aide said there will be an additional amount per child, which could be in the neighborhood of $300.

Those who earn up to $75,000 individually or up to $150,000 as a couple will be eligible for the payments, said Republican and Democratic sources familiar with the tentative deal.  Checks could be in taxpayers' mailboxes by June, according to an Associated Press report.
LINK (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/24/economic.stimulus/index.html)


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: Aske on January 24, 2008, 10:46:06 AM
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Much of the stimulus will come in the form of tax rebates to both businesses and individual tax payers. According to reports from The Associated Press and The Washington Post, individuals earning less than $75,000 would receive a $300 rebate. Families -- households with children -- earning less than $150,000 would receive $600, and $300 for each child up to two.

Many economists have said that among plans to stimulate the economy, favoring low- and middle-income earners is the most likely to have immediate results. Low-income earners remain less likely to save. The Wall Street Journal recently reported that many of the tax rebates in 2003 went toward savings, not spending.

LINK (http://www.thestreet.com/s/bush-congress-agree-on-tax-rebates-to-stimulate-economy/markets/marketfeatures/10400255.html?puc=googlefi)

CNN is running different #'s in their story (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/24/economic.stimulus/index.html)


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: Clive on January 24, 2008, 10:46:37 AM
I was editing to add a CNN blurb as you were replying.

 :o ;D


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: Clive on January 24, 2008, 10:48:32 AM
AP says:

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Pelosi, D-Calif., agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during a Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes. Individuals and couples who pay income tax would receive rebates of $600-$1,200, and more if they have children.

Under the tentative plan, families with children would receive an additional $300 per child, according to a senior House aide who outlined the deal on condition of anonymity in advance of formal adoption of the package. Rebates would only go to people earning below a certain income cap, likely individuals earning $75,000 or less and couples with incomes of $150,000 or less.

Workers would have to have earned at least $3,000 in 2007 to receive the rebates, the officials said.

The rebate part of the plan would cost about $100 billion, aides said.


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: hobbit on January 24, 2008, 10:48:46 AM
I'm like totally buyin' stuff.

I would be too, but apparently I'm no longer middle class and won't be getting chit.  So, when you're all out getting your new iGadgets - keep it to your damned selves - I'm sensitive that way.

Poo.



Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: Aske on January 24, 2008, 10:50:26 AM
I'm like totally buyin' stuff.

I would be too, but apparently I'm no longer middle class and won't be getting chit.  So, when you're all out getting your new iGadgets - keep it to your damned selves - I'm sensitive that way.

Poo.



are you now less motivated to work hard and be successfull ?  [sm_devil] ;)


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: Clive on January 24, 2008, 10:51:11 AM
And The Guardian (come on!  The Guardian?  How the hell do the Brits know *feces* before we do???):

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The rebates would phase out gradually for individuals whose income exceeds $75,000 and couples with incomes above $150,000, aides said. Individuals with incomes up to $87,000 and couples up to $174,000 would get partial rebates. The caps rise higher for individuals and couples with children.


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: spacey on January 24, 2008, 10:55:09 AM
I mentioned the potential checks to the wife yesterday, and she got all sorts of crazy ideas about donating it to charity. I felt like a *8==>* for already having the new pipes for my bike picked out.  :sad3:

The reality, though, is if we don't donate it or just put it in savings (realizing full well that's not the point of it), I'll probably end up with some lame new end table or something.


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: hobbit on January 24, 2008, 11:02:36 AM
I'm like totally buyin' stuff.

I would be too, but apparently I'm no longer middle class and won't be getting chit.  So, when you're all out getting your new iGadgets - keep it to your damned selves - I'm sensitive that way.

Poo.



are you now less motivated to work hard and be successfull ?  [sm_devil] ;)

Well, that should not have been my leading argument - but it does have an affect.  For instance, I'm supposed to be working right now.  Instead, I'm triple checking that I won't be getting chit and as a result - still not working.  In the next few moments, I'm going to go look at all the things I could have bought but now cannot - I'm going to sulk about it... and still not work.  Bah!

 [sm_violin]  [sm_redface]



Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: stroh on January 24, 2008, 11:15:08 AM
........the new pipes for my bike picked out.  :sad3:



You selfish *fudge*.


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: Clive on January 24, 2008, 11:37:02 AM
I mentioned the potential checks to the wife yesterday, and she got all sorts of crazy ideas about donating it to charity. I felt like a *8==>* for already having the new pipes for my bike picked out.  :sad3:

The reality, though, is if we don't donate it or just put it in savings (realizing full well that's not the point of it), I'll probably end up with some lame new end table or something.
Well, you self-centered prick, why don't you buy ME a full exhaust system?  Runs about $1200.  You get to pick out pipes, she gets to "donate" the funds.  Win-win, I say.


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: Walfredo on January 24, 2008, 11:48:24 AM
I'll take it gladly.  Our kitchen should be remodled by then which means I can get a new tv. God bless China.  [sm_eekdance]   [sm_headbang]


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: stroh on January 24, 2008, 11:54:36 AM
M. Le Fuzz, didn't Jesse decide that because we had a budget surplus, every Minnesotan should get a check for three hundred bucks, and we've been in a deficit ever since?


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: Fuzzy on January 24, 2008, 12:17:45 PM
M. Le Fuzz, didn't Jesse decide that because we had a budget surplus, every Minnesotan should get a check for three hundred bucks, and we've been in a deficit ever since?

I'd have to check but I believe you're right.

IIRC, we got to pay federal taxes on that little check as well.  :)


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: gleek on January 24, 2008, 12:23:41 PM
M. Le Fuzz, didn't Jesse decide that because we had a budget surplus, every Minnesotan should get a check for three hundred bucks, and we've been in a deficit ever since?

Those crazy libertarians!  ;)


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: Clive on January 24, 2008, 01:27:56 PM
M. Le Fuzz, didn't Jesse decide that because we had a budget surplus, every Minnesotan should get a check for three hundred bucks, and we've been in a deficit ever since?
Well, there's his mistake right there!  Don't hand out the billions in rebates when there's a surplus!  Always when there's a deficit.  Can this Administration teach you nothing?


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: gleek on January 24, 2008, 03:26:15 PM
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stimulus package gets smited  [Politics/Religion]

Clive is slacking off.


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: stroh on January 24, 2008, 04:17:09 PM
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stimulus package gets smited  [Politics/Religion]

Clive is slacking off.

See Goth Thread.  ;D


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: MFAWG on January 24, 2008, 06:24:12 PM
By definition, anything that got Hannity into a spittle soaked rant about the 'Handouts' to the 'Non Productive' members of society can't be all bad, but I'm really struck by the 160 year old words of Alexis De Tocqueville:

“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money”

No *feces*, it's time for the quadrennial vote buy from the folks in DC.

Me, I'm going to Vancouver, British Columbia CANADAand blow my 300 bucks on strippers and maybe a WESCO race.

If I'm lying, I'm dying.  [sm_devil]


Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: Aske on January 24, 2008, 06:28:47 PM
By definition, anything that got Hannity into a spittle soaked rant about the 'Handouts' to the 'Non Productive' members of society can't be all bad, but I'm really struck by the 160 year old words of Alexis De Tocqueville:

“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money”

No *feces*, it's time for the quadrennial vote buy from the folks in DC.

Me, I'm going to Vancouver, British Columbia CANADAand blow my 300 bucks on strippers and maybe a WESCO race.

If I'm lying, I'm dying.  [sm_devil]


i pasted that quote recently as well. it really is sadly true, isn't it.



Title: Re: stimulus package gets smited [Politics/Religion]
Post by: JDerion on January 24, 2008, 06:49:01 PM
As always Tocqueville is the man.