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Title: [Politics/Religion] That jackass Ben Nelson finally agrees to cloture Post by: gleek on December 19, 2009, 11:56:14 PM ...now that the bill is a POS.
Title: Re: [Politics/Religion] That jackass Ben Nelson finally agrees to cloture Post by: gleek on December 20, 2009, 12:00:24 AM He's threatening to drop his support if the bill is "materially changed" in conference committee from what is in the Senate's version.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/34489401#34489401 *fudge* you! Like you get to automatically trump what the House put into their version of the bill. *goshdarn* *bunghole*, sock puppet for the insurance industry! Title: Re: [Politics/Religion] That jackass Ben Nelson finally agrees to cloture Post by: MFAWG on December 20, 2009, 09:19:36 AM I'm going with the Big Bill Clinton argument:
At this point, take what you can get, and refight the battle later when the ground is a little more advantageous. We haven't come to terms (yet) with the idea that 'Health Care For Profit' is an oxymoron, and trafficking in human misery is evil by definition. We'll get there. Title: Re: [Politics/Religion] That jackass Ben Nelson finally agrees to cloture Post by: Aske on December 20, 2009, 09:26:42 AM sellout
Title: Re: [Politics/Religion] That jackass Ben Nelson finally agrees to cloture Post by: gleek on December 20, 2009, 09:48:24 AM I'm going with the Big Bill Clinton argument: At this point, take what you can get, and refight the battle later when the ground is a little more advantageous. We haven't come to terms (yet) with the idea that 'Health Care For Profit' is an oxymoron, and trafficking in human misery is evil by definition. We'll get there. But will the ground be more advantageous? All the cost-cutting measures have been stripped out of the Senate bill to appease the "conservative" Democrats and futilely win over the one so-called "moderate" GOP senator. If and when this bill goes into effect and increases overall healthcare costs like some fear, the GOP will say "See what happens when the other side tries to push through legislation?" Title: Re: [Politics/Religion] That jackass Ben Nelson finally agrees to cloture Post by: MFAWG on December 20, 2009, 10:14:48 AM I'm going with the Big Bill Clinton argument: At this point, take what you can get, and refight the battle later when the ground is a little more advantageous. We haven't come to terms (yet) with the idea that 'Health Care For Profit' is an oxymoron, and trafficking in human misery is evil by definition. We'll get there. But will the ground be more advantageous? All the cost-cutting measures have been stripped out of the Senate bill to appease the "conservative" Democrats and futilely win over the one so-called "moderate" GOP senator. If and when this bill goes into effect and increases overall healthcare costs like some fear, the GOP will say "See what happens when the other side tries to push through legislation?" Quote But will the ground be more advantageous? Consider this: If you told somebody in 2005 that in 2010 the Dems would have a 60 vote majority in the Senate, close to a 100 seat advantage in the House, and the POTUS would be a black guy, they would have shipped you off to a loony bin. Quote If and when this bill goes into effect and increases overall healthcare costs like some fear, the GOP will say "See what happens when the other side tries to push through legislation?" You think people (and I'm talking the 30 pct in the middle) don't realize that it was conservatives and the GOP that really *fudge*ed this up? Title: Re: [Politics/Religion] That jackass Ben Nelson finally agrees to cloture Post by: gleek on December 20, 2009, 10:27:11 AM I'm going with the Big Bill Clinton argument: At this point, take what you can get, and refight the battle later when the ground is a little more advantageous. We haven't come to terms (yet) with the idea that 'Health Care For Profit' is an oxymoron, and trafficking in human misery is evil by definition. We'll get there. But will the ground be more advantageous? All the cost-cutting measures have been stripped out of the Senate bill to appease the "conservative" Democrats and futilely win over the one so-called "moderate" GOP senator. If and when this bill goes into effect and increases overall healthcare costs like some fear, the GOP will say "See what happens when the other side tries to push through legislation?" Quote But will the ground be more advantageous? Consider this: If you told somebody in 2005 that in 2010 the Dems would have a 60 vote majority in the Senate, close to a 100 seat advantage in the House, and the POTUS would be a black guy, they would have shipped you off to a loony bin. Quote If and when this bill goes into effect and increases overall healthcare costs like some fear, the GOP will say "See what happens when the other side tries to push through legislation?" You think people (and I'm talking the 30 pct in the middle) don't realize that it was conservatives and the GOP that really *fudge*ed this up? Title: Re: [Politics/Religion] That jackass Ben Nelson finally agrees to cloture Post by: MFAWG on December 20, 2009, 10:31:51 AM I'm going with the Big Bill Clinton argument: At this point, take what you can get, and refight the battle later when the ground is a little more advantageous. We haven't come to terms (yet) with the idea that 'Health Care For Profit' is an oxymoron, and trafficking in human misery is evil by definition. We'll get there. But will the ground be more advantageous? All the cost-cutting measures have been stripped out of the Senate bill to appease the "conservative" Democrats and futilely win over the one so-called "moderate" GOP senator. If and when this bill goes into effect and increases overall healthcare costs like some fear, the GOP will say "See what happens when the other side tries to push through legislation?" Quote But will the ground be more advantageous? Consider this: If you told somebody in 2005 that in 2010 the Dems would have a 60 vote majority in the Senate, close to a 100 seat advantage in the House, and the POTUS would be a black guy, they would have shipped you off to a loony bin. Quote If and when this bill goes into effect and increases overall healthcare costs like some fear, the GOP will say "See what happens when the other side tries to push through legislation?" You think people (and I'm talking the 30 pct in the middle) don't realize that it was conservatives and the GOP that really *fudge*ed this up? Effective candidates will remind them. Hacks won't. Congratulations, America works! Title: Re: [Politics/Religion] That jackass Ben Nelson finally agrees to cloture Post by: stroh on December 20, 2009, 10:36:00 AM I'm going with the Big Bill Clinton argument: At this point, take what you can get, and refight the battle later when the ground is a little more advantageous. We haven't come to terms (yet) with the idea that 'Health Care For Profit' is an oxymoron, and trafficking in human misery is evil by definition. We'll get there. But will the ground be more advantageous? All the cost-cutting measures have been stripped out of the Senate bill to appease the "conservative" Democrats and futilely win over the one so-called "moderate" GOP senator. If and when this bill goes into effect and increases overall healthcare costs like some fear, the GOP will say "See what happens when the other side tries to push through legislation?" Quote But will the ground be more advantageous? Consider this: If you told somebody in 2005 that in 2010 the Dems would have a 60 vote majority in the Senate, close to a 100 seat advantage in the House, and the POTUS would be a black guy, they would have shipped you off to a loony bin. Quote If and when this bill goes into effect and increases overall healthcare costs like some fear, the GOP will say "See what happens when the other side tries to push through legislation?" You think people (and I'm talking the 30 pct in the middle) don't realize that it was conservatives and the GOP that really *fudge*ed this up? [sm_anon] Title: Re: [Politics/Religion] That jackass Ben Nelson finally agrees to cloture Post by: Aske on December 20, 2009, 10:54:37 AM [sm_anon] Don't worry, it will be the cover story of your freebie magazine next week. Title: Re: [Politics/Religion] That jackass Ben Nelson finally agrees to cloture Post by: stroh on December 20, 2009, 10:58:04 AM LOL
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