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Title: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: Fuzzy on May 07, 2008, 11:26:00 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=3385333

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PONTE VEDRA BEACH, Fla. -- Pete Dye, the golf course architect who built his reputation on risk-reward shots at courses like TPC Sawgrass and the Ocean Course at Kiawah Island, was selected Tuesday for the World Golf Hall of Fame.

Dye was selected in the Lifetime Achievement Category and will be inducted Nov. 10.

He will be the fourth person in the Hall of Fame whose primary occupation was a golf course architect, joining Donald Ross, Alister Mackenzie and Robert Trent Jones Sr.


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: stroh on May 07, 2008, 12:50:08 PM
 [sm_thumbsup2]  His acceptance speech better include a thank you to his wife. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TPC_at_Sawgrass#The_.22Island_Green.22)


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: dystopia on May 07, 2008, 04:00:57 PM
 8)  I like his courses.


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: Uisce Beatha on May 07, 2008, 04:07:09 PM
I'd like to try Whistling Straits that's for sure.


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: stroh on May 08, 2008, 05:35:51 AM
I'd like to try Whistling Straits that's for sure.

Me too.

I will play the Stadium Course at The TPC Sawgrass someday.


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: Spanky on May 08, 2008, 05:51:07 AM
I can do without playing Sawgrass. It's not that I don't think it's a nice course, it's just that to me it's not a stand out. Maybe I've played it too many times on TW06 and TW07, or maybe I know I will walk away with a score of 130+ and have started on my second dozen of balls by 15.

I'm not knocking the course any but for me to play? I can pass.


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: stroh on May 08, 2008, 06:19:31 AM
Probably how I would play it. (http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/scorecard?league=pga&tournamentId=&playerId=22892)   ;D


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: Spanky on May 08, 2008, 06:30:44 AM
LMAO, I don't think I would have even gotten that par.


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: Aske on May 08, 2008, 02:30:26 PM
at the rate my personal finances are going compared to the national economy i doubt i'll ever see a dye course in person
 :sad3:


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: Uisce Beatha on May 08, 2008, 02:48:43 PM
at the rate my personal finances are going compared to the national economy i doubt i'll ever see a dye course in person
 :sad3:

While it's not in your nature to be optimistic, I've heard somewhere the national economy is on the verge of total collapse.  I'm positive you'll gain ground!!!


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: Spartan on May 08, 2008, 04:37:52 PM
My home course was designed by Pete's son, P.B.  While we have plenty of railroad ties, they rarely come into play.


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: Uisce Beatha on May 08, 2008, 05:31:45 PM
If we're talkin' relatives...

http://ledges.com/stgeorgegolfcourse/ledgesgolfutah/

Matt Dye - grandson.

Certainly among the top 3-4 public courses in Utah.


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: Fuzzy on May 08, 2008, 05:46:26 PM
I'd like to try Whistling Straits that's for sure.

Me too.

I will play the Stadium Course at The TPC Sawgrass someday.

I'd love to play Whistling as well. Kind of pricey but with the two Whistling courses and the two Blackwolf Run courses you'd be hard pressed to find a better golf destination from what I hear. If not, this is new and closer to Minneapolis:

http://www.bigfishgolf.com/

Supposed to be really nice, fairly "quiet" and a lot less pricey.


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: JDerion on May 08, 2008, 07:10:46 PM
As impressive as his resume is the careers he helped spawn. Aside from family members, guys like Tom Doak got their start working for Pete Dye. Even Nicklaus got his feet wet in course design when he worked with Dye on Harbour Town.

Sawgrass, Kiawah, and Bulle Rock are all on my list of courses I expect to play someday. Harbour Town is the only big name Dye course I've played.


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: Uisce Beatha on May 08, 2008, 07:19:07 PM
As impressive as his resume is the careers he helped spawn. Aside from family members, guys like Tom Doak got their start working for Pete Dye. Even Nicklaus got his feet wet in course design when he worked with Dye on Harbour Town.

In his book Tom Doak praises Dye highly.  I struggled with that a bit.  Doak is the consummate minimalist.  Dye pushes a lot of dirt around.  They seem to have very different design styles.  I think I understand Doak's philosophy and it seems quite different from what I perceive Dye's to be.  However, having not read much on/by Pete Dye and having never played one of his tracks I'm sure I'm missing his vision. 



Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: JDerion on May 08, 2008, 08:38:56 PM
As impressive as his resume is the careers he helped spawn. Aside from family members, guys like Tom Doak got their start working for Pete Dye. Even Nicklaus got his feet wet in course design when he worked with Dye on Harbour Town.

In his book Tom Doak praises Dye highly.  I struggled with that a bit.  Doak is the consummate minimalist.  Dye pushes a lot of dirt around.  They seem to have very different design styles.  I think I understand Doak's philosophy and it seems quite different from what I perceive Dye's to be.  However, having not read much on/by Pete Dye and having never played one of his tracks I'm sure I'm missing his vision. 


I agree with your point about contrasting styles, and it's a good one. However, having spent a lot of time on golfclubatlas, where Doak does a fair amount of posting, I think it's not so much the design style that Doak took from Dye, but the opportunity. Doak is one in a long list of guys who Pete Dye brought on board and freely showed them the ropes of golf course design. I think more than anything, Doak is grateful for Dye's willingness to bring a kid on his crew and let him learn, grow, and move on. Dye was a mentor to a lot of architects.


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: Uisce Beatha on May 09, 2008, 06:52:08 AM
Damn you JD!!!   :redcard:

I stayed up for two hours last night lurking about 50 threads on that site.   :help: [sm_pod] [sm_coffee]


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: Spanky on May 09, 2008, 08:20:51 AM
Damn you JD!!!   :redcard:

I stayed up for two hours last night lurking about 50 threads on that site.   :help: [sm_pod] [sm_coffee]
LMAO

I almost did that. I have been avoiding it.


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: JDerion on May 09, 2008, 10:42:07 AM
Damn you JD!!!   :redcard:

I stayed up for two hours last night lurking about 50 threads on that site.   :help: [sm_pod] [sm_coffee]
I'm surprised you had never been there before! No doubt, it's up your alley in terms of content, although some of the personalities are a bit tough to take.


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: Walfredo on May 12, 2008, 02:05:51 PM
I was able to play the Men's Club at Oak Tree in a scramble which is a classic dye course.  I'm not sure I could handle playing there everyday as a member.  Hitting out of 10-12 feet deep greenside bunkers isn't fun.  But some of the holes were really cool.  I was hitting the ball very well, but would have struggled to break 100 I'm sure. 


Title: Re: Railroad ties FTW
Post by: Spartan on May 12, 2008, 02:17:58 PM
I was able to play the Men's Club at Oak Tree in a scramble which is a classic dye course.  I'm not sure I could handle playing there everyday as a member.  Hitting out of 10-12 feet deep greenside bunkers isn't fun.  But some of the holes were really cool.  I was hitting the ball very well, but would have struggled to break 100 I'm sure. 

I've learned to stay out of the bunkers.  The lakes are another matter....