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Title: Workin' on a writing paper...need a little help.
Post by: Seamus on July 07, 2007, 08:05:06 AM
Topic: The Decay of the Modern Athlete. Thesis: Money changes everything, for the love of money is the root of all evil.

List some athletes over the years who have had trouble with the law, examples, Denny McClain, Strawberry, Art Schlicter, Rae Carruth, Tyson, and now Vick.

Also, I've been searching for an hour now on a listing of salaries through the years, by year, especially just pre Curt Flood and then the following years, I'll keep looking but if you can think of anything off the top of your heads.

Smoke 'em if you got 'em, and thanks!


Title: Re: Workin' on a writing paper...need a little help.
Post by: worst_golfer_ever on July 07, 2007, 10:24:34 AM
Pete Rose - gambling  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Rose

Don't know if you want to use Wikipedia, but they have a list of sports scandals:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_Scandals
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sporting_scandals


Title: Re: Workin' on a writing paper...need a little help.
Post by: Seamus on July 07, 2007, 10:41:58 AM
Good...yep.

My problem is the paper can only be 600 words, so I have to make my point quickly.

Thanks WG.


Title: Re: Workin' on a writing paper...need a little help.
Post by: gleek on July 07, 2007, 01:45:10 PM
Is it money or simply overblown egos with a sense of infallibility?

Oh, wait. This is about athletes and not politicians. Nevermind.


Title: Re: Workin' on a writing paper...need a little help.
Post by: Seamus on July 07, 2007, 05:00:34 PM
Could have gone that way I 'spose, but we had to choose a topic that we were "passionate" about, that rings more true with sports for me rather than politics.

But if I just change Michael Vick to George Bush...hmmmmm...interesting.

But you did offer a great conclusion line!  :)


Title: Re: Workin' on a writing paper...need a little help.
Post by: stegerman on July 07, 2007, 05:56:52 PM
http://members.aol.com/apbrhoops/labor.html

Here's one specific to the NBA.


Title: Re: Workin' on a writing paper...need a little help.
Post by: MP on July 07, 2007, 06:02:10 PM
you still in school seamus?


Title: Re: Workin' on a writing paper...need a little help.
Post by: stegerman on July 07, 2007, 06:06:42 PM
http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/salaries/default.aspx


Baseball, Football, Hockey, Basketball


Title: Re: Workin' on a writing paper...need a little help.
Post by: Seamus on July 07, 2007, 06:22:02 PM
you still in school seamus?
Yeah, just started really. This is our first big writing assignment, the funny thing is I had a paper done Technology Run Amok: Is This the Eventual Death of Courtesy? about annoying cell phone persons, woke up this morning at 5:30 with a better idea (maybe?).

Thanks Steg. That gets from 1988 to current. I sure would love to find salaries from right around the Curt Flood/free agency time, it's ok though, I can still make a point without it.


Title: Re: Workin' on a writing paper...need a little help.
Post by: stegerman on July 07, 2007, 07:23:42 PM
http://www.robbinssports.com/sports-blog/2007/06/29/are-talented-players-necessarily-good-investments/

Didn't read it all


Title: Re: Workin' on a writing paper...need a little help.
Post by: MFAWG on July 07, 2007, 07:25:23 PM
Seamus, you goin' to have to do any cipherin' or gazinta's in yore nuw skool?


Title: Re: Workin' on a writing paper...need a little help.
Post by: stegerman on July 07, 2007, 07:27:42 PM
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1468-0270.00035

You have to pay 4.95, but it might be worth it.


Title: Re: Workin' on a writing paper...need a little help.
Post by: Seamus on July 07, 2007, 07:37:52 PM
Seamus, you goin' to have to do any cipherin' or gazinta's in yore nuw skool?
I'm cipherin' my ass off, I might have to do gazinta's but on a very limited basis, something like business gazinta's.

That's an interesting article steggy, I'll take a deeper look tomorrow, after the FAWG DAWG and I golf a wee bit...WOOT!


Title: Re: Workin' on a writing paper...need a little help.
Post by: MP on July 07, 2007, 07:40:00 PM
you still in school seamus?
Yeah, just started really. This is our first big writing assignment, the funny thing is I had a paper done Technology Run Amok: Is This the Eventual Death of Courtesy? about annoying cell phone persons, woke up this morning at 5:30 with a better idea (maybe?).

Thanks Steg. That gets from 1988 to current. I sure would love to find salaries from right around the Curt Flood/free agency time, it's ok though, I can still make a point without it.
Sounds like a paper I did regarding technology and how it's ruining golf. 


Title: Re: Workin' on a writing paper...need a little help.
Post by: golfer ray on July 07, 2007, 09:53:35 PM
600 words.  You could write thousands of words on this.  I wonder if you could focus on the steroid scandal in baseball.  Bonds, McGwire, Giambi. 
Why the steroids?  $$$. And that there have always been negative items in baseball.  The Black Sox scandal in the 1918(?) World Series. The advent of free agency in the 1970's.  I don't know.  If you examine all sports, you could be writing for days. 


Title: Re: Workin' on a writing paper...need a little help.
Post by: Seamus on July 07, 2007, 10:14:30 PM
600 words.  You could write thousands of words on this.  I wonder if you could focus on the steroid scandal in baseball.  Bonds, McGwire, Giambi. 
Why the steroids?  $$$. And that there have always been negative items in baseball.  The Black Sox scandal in the 1918(?) World Series. The advent of free agency in the 1970's.  I don't know.  If you examine all sports, you could be writing for days. 
It has to be done in the rhetoric of process analysis and kept within the limits placed. Kinda like I told MFAWG, the words come easy to me, but it's the formatics that's hard, but it is getting easier, 'specially after writing a whole 'nother paper.


Title: Re: Workin' on a writing paper...need a little help.
Post by: stroh on July 08, 2007, 08:20:40 AM
You've read around six thousand of my posts to be well aware I am of no help in writing anything.  Or research for that matter.  I make it up as I go along, and usually get called on it by Clivenhosin'!  I think he makes it his hobby. ;)

Sorry bud.  Good luck.

(http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Studio/8290/rodney.GIF)


Title: Re: Workin' on a writing paper...need a little help.
Post by: Blader on July 09, 2007, 07:56:14 AM
I can't help you with that, but here's a paper you and I wrote together, that you should feel free to submit for your next computer science course.

http://punitive-surgery.lcs.mit.edu/scicache/225/scimakelatex.76445.Blader.Seamus.html