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Title: WB already changing the 'story' Post by: Aske on January 09, 2008, 02:41:49 PM http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22545995/
last week it was because "consumers chose" what they really meant to say was "consumers were choosing to buy gas , not dvds (or hdm) and so we just took a nice fat bribe since we wouldn't make that much on hdm anyways, at least till the economy no longer sucks" [sm_devil] so yeh, back the more expensive (manufacturing side, and consumer side) product in a shiat economy ? [sm_dontknow] Title: Re: WB already changing the 'story' Post by: Uisce Beatha on January 09, 2008, 02:44:56 PM Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niche_market)
Title: Re: WB already changing the 'story' Post by: Aske on January 09, 2008, 02:48:33 PM Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niche_market) definitely agree (and did since day 1 it would be so if bda/$ony won) just funny that this new comment comes less than 1 week after "the consumers chose bluray blah blah blah" so ga$ is up, $15 dvd sales are down, thus pick bluray to end confusion, and $25 bluray sales will increase? ??? ::) http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070418-dedicated-hd-dvd-players-outsell-blu-ray-counterparts.html interesting discussion in here (admittedly very old) about cost/speed of BD manufacturing Title: Re: WB already changing the 'story' Post by: Uisce Beatha on January 09, 2008, 03:01:54 PM DVD wins.
I'll get a BD player just because I think high-def is wicked cool and I'm not exactly lower middle income. But would I recommend it to my mom/stepfather/cousin/friends? No, I'd say get a display, HD programming and a good up-converter. If they expressed an early adopter attitude then we could start talking. It's going to be a niche market forever unless HD-DVD pulls a Lazarus and Toshiba/Microsoft figure out a winning strategy. Ah well. Next!!! Title: Re: WB already changing the 'story' Post by: gleek on January 09, 2008, 03:11:31 PM It's going to be a niche market forever unless HD-DVD pulls a Lazarus and Toshiba/Microsoft figure out a winning strategy. They can start by buying their own studios. OTOH, I once heard on CNBC Squawkbox that the entire film industry has a market size of about $6 billion per year. The host Joe Kernen was shocked to find out how small the size of that market is. I vaguely remember him remarkeing that that figure amounts to the quarterly revenues of a medium-sized auto parts manufacturer. IOW, it might not even be a market worth fighting for. Title: Re: WB already changing the 'story' Post by: Aske on January 09, 2008, 03:12:44 PM It's going to be a niche market forever unless HD-DVD pulls a Lazarus and Toshiba/Microsoft figure out a winning strategy. They can start by buying their own studios. OTOH, I once heard on CNBC Squawkbox that the entire film industry has a market size of about $6 billion per year. The host Joe Kernen was shocked to find out how small the size of that market is. I vaguely remember him remarkeing that that figure amounts to the quarterly revenues of a medium-sized auto parts manufacturer. IOW, it might not even be a market worth fighting for. that $6B might be the worldwide theatre box office, home video is way bigger than $6B Title: Re: WB already changing the 'story' Post by: Aske on January 09, 2008, 03:14:34 PM DVD wins. I'll get a BD player just because I think high-def is wicked cool and I'm not exactly lower middle income. But would I recommend it to my mom/stepfather/cousin/friends? No, I'd say get a display, HD programming and a good up-converter. If they expressed an early adopter attitude then we could start talking. It's going to be a niche market forever unless HD-DVD pulls a Lazarus and Toshiba/Microsoft figure out a winning strategy. Ah well. Next!!! like i said in the other thread, i still can't believe m$ is just giving in to sony for optical format on the xbox720 (or whatever it may be) granted they are also vested in downloads and other interests/revenue streams, but can you imagine giving your direct competition those kind of royalty/licensing fees PER DRIVE AND PER DISC ? [sm_shock] Title: Re: WB already changing the 'story' Post by: Uisce Beatha on January 09, 2008, 03:19:52 PM xbox720 I'm no MS fan but xBox360 --> xBox1080 with a built-in drive would be seriously serendipitous. Title: Re: WB already changing the 'story' Post by: gleek on January 09, 2008, 03:23:59 PM It's going to be a niche market forever unless HD-DVD pulls a Lazarus and Toshiba/Microsoft figure out a winning strategy. They can start by buying their own studios. OTOH, I once heard on CNBC Squawkbox that the entire film industry has a market size of about $6 billion per year. The host Joe Kernen was shocked to find out how small the size of that market is. I vaguely remember him remarkeing that that figure amounts to the quarterly revenues of a medium-sized auto parts manufacturer. IOW, it might not even be a market worth fighting for. that $6B might be the worldwide theatre box office, home video is way bigger than $6B I think the figure was for U.S.-only, and it was awhile ago (probably around 1998-1999). But I do think it included home video. If you look at these charts (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070830-gaming-to-surge-50-percent-in-four-years-possibly.html), which I'm sure include home video, $6B in annual revenues 10 years ago might be in-line with what the current size is (~$9.5B). Title: Re: WB already changing the 'story' Post by: Aske on January 09, 2008, 03:24:59 PM It's going to be a niche market forever unless HD-DVD pulls a Lazarus and Toshiba/Microsoft figure out a winning strategy. They can start by buying their own studios. OTOH, I once heard on CNBC Squawkbox that the entire film industry has a market size of about $6 billion per year. The host Joe Kernen was shocked to find out how small the size of that market is. I vaguely remember him remarkeing that that figure amounts to the quarterly revenues of a medium-sized auto parts manufacturer. IOW, it might not even be a market worth fighting for. that $6B might be the worldwide theatre box office, home video is way bigger than $6B I think the figure was for U.S.-only, and it was awhile ago (probably around 1998-1999). But I do think it included home video. If you look at these charts (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070830-gaming-to-surge-50-percent-in-four-years-possibly.html), which I'm sure include home video, $6B in annual revenues 10 years ago might be in-line with what the current size is (~$9.5B). ok, i'd probably believe $10B U$A total. |