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Title: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: dyno on December 29, 2006, 12:21:26 PM
As an extension to SpaceA's ALL TWGT, ALLDATIME thread, what are your planned changes?   I never plan these things but have a pretty good idea what new pieces of gear will need my evaluative talents. LOL

1.  Accra new shafts for 2007.  There will be a new full lineup in the Tour/SC/SE mode so I'm obligated to chop up a few.
2.  Epon 460 driver head.  I'm gonna name mine "NapalmU2MF"
3.  52/58 wedges - something grindable as I intend to learn alittle more about the art of wedge grinding.
4.  I have Tour Edge driver/4w/7w on the way...don't ask.  The 4w should be a fun experiment as I've never owned the FW's in this series. 
5.  MOI matching.  I had a Speedmatch machine in the Dynoabode but it was faulty so may rig up a homemade MOI counter.
6.  A new hybrid to replace nerdsimmon's SMT.



Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: Clive on December 29, 2006, 12:31:04 PM
This is the year of Money Is No Object For Persimmon.  In that vein:

- same driver;
- same fairway wood;
- same irons; and
- same wedges (probably).

+ New hybrid, if that tool Dyno would get off his drunken, gangsta-talking ass and give me one for free. (*)

+ Swap out current putter for previous putter.  (Current putter was given a good 2-years-plus to prove itself.)

+ Demo HPG wedges and possibly knock Vokeys out.


(*) ... but I do hope he places a moral value on his time.  I'd had to see him not maximize karmic profits.


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: spacey on December 29, 2006, 12:44:10 PM
Assuming I like the changes I'm making with the all TWGT bag, and the main bag becomes my back up bag, I'll be changing everything except the putter and maybe the wedges. If I end up not liking Wishon's new wedge offerings, I'll either pick up some Wishon PCFs or I might just stick with the Maltby M Series, though if I do they'll definitely need new shafts.

I'm swapping the Fail Safe driver in my current (soon to be back up) bag for an Infiniti ProPulsion 460.

As for the free hybrid for Persimmon, I'm wondering how you're planning to maximize your profits while attempting to secure his repeat non-paying business. I'm not an economist, but I'd like to see a business plan if you have one.


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: dyno on December 29, 2006, 02:33:01 PM
I will have to set the price after determining whether your market force will intersect with my need for another 6-pack.  Beyotch.  Built a 785HF for a local teaching pro and he calls it his 'magic wand'.  He's never waved either of his wands at me thankfully. I bent the hosel a degree flatter to try to keep it alittle to the fade side.

SpaceA.  Alot of the guys on the TWGT forum fawn over the PCF's but I personally think they are egglikeugly.  I use either the Accra or Tour Concept for my wedge shafts and don't plan on changing.

I did own a Propulsion 440 but never shafted it as the face and lie angles were all wrong. oh well...I do like Eric's product. They consistently make good performing heads at a very fair price.


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: Clive on December 29, 2006, 02:37:51 PM
I will have to set the price after determining whether your market force will intersect with my need for another 6-pack.  Beyotch.  Built a 785HF for a local teaching pro and he calls it his 'magic wand'.  He's never waved either of his wands at me thankfully. I bent the hosel a degree flatter to try to keep it alittle to the fade side.
Hmmm.  Well, we're definitely going to see some growth in my private sector this quarter.  Any forecasting as to market penetration would at this point, of course, be premature.

But seriously, yo: I am flush with cash, jewelry, magic beans, and S&H green stamps.  That *feces*'d buy you a *goshdarn* castle in The Vanc.


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: stroh on December 29, 2006, 04:13:59 PM
I don't plan on any changes to equipment.

I plan to revisit the wisdom of a good friend.  He passed it on to me years ago, as I was pleading my case for a new 3 wood.

"Dude,........ instead, why don't you learn to hit the one you already *fudge*in' own?  You're an idiot assclown  and you're away *8==>*face."



Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: spacey on December 29, 2006, 04:20:05 PM

SpaceA.  Alot of the guys on the TWGT forum fawn over the PCF's but I personally think they are egglikeugly.  I use either the Accra or Tour Concept for my wedge shafts and don't plan on changing.


What, specifically, do you think is ugly about them? I've never seen one in person but the pics look nice. I quite like the Maltbys I'm using now, but at the very least I need a shaft which will give me a higher launch.


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: dyno on December 29, 2006, 05:22:56 PM
I will have to set the price after determining whether your market force will intersect with my need for another 6-pack.  Beyotch.  Built a 785HF for a local teaching pro and he calls it his 'magic wand'.  He's never waved either of his wands at me thankfully. I bent the hosel a degree flatter to try to keep it alittle to the fade side.
Hmmm.  Well, we're definitely going to see some growth in my private sector this quarter.  Any forecasting as to market penetration would at this point, of course, be premature.

But seriously, yo: I am flush with cash, jewelry, magic beans, and S&H green stamps.  That *feces*'d buy you a *goshdarn* castle in The Vanc.

Magic wands and magic beans.....sounds like the makin's of a pretty sweet beanstalk. 

I actually have a DGSL X100 I tried untipped into my 785 and it worked great but was just a tad stout.  Was a one-off experiment....might work for you and I think it'll fit your 'budget', Mr Helmsley.


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: dyno on December 29, 2006, 05:24:18 PM
I don't plan on any changes to equipment.

I plan to revisit the wisdom of a good friend.  He passed it on to me years ago, as I was pleading my case for a new 3 wood.

"Dude,........ instead, why don't you learn to hit the one you already *fudge*in' own?  You're an idiot assclown  and you're away *8==>*face."



That's a more direct approach than used by most but I suppose his point is clear.  :)


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: dyno on December 29, 2006, 05:29:14 PM

SpaceA.  Alot of the guys on the TWGT forum fawn over the PCF's but I personally think they are egglikeugly.  I use either the Accra or Tour Concept for my wedge shafts and don't plan on changing.


What, specifically, do you think is ugly about them? I've never seen one in person but the pics look nice. I quite like the Maltbys I'm using now, but at the very least I need a shaft which will give me a higher launch.

They are very round....like a tiny pan to fry quail eggs.  The Maltby is alittle more teardrop and are quite nice except the sole grind doesn't turn my crank...alittle flat on the bottom.

I like the shape of Vokey Raw....about ideal.  Wishon has a new wedge coming out....I'd wait until then at least.

Lots of soft tip shafts to choose from and all work pretty good in a wedge.  Dynalite, Spinner, Accra all might help.  Hitting a low wedge though is a good thing.  The softer tip shaft is more for flex feel than launch control.


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: spacey on December 29, 2006, 06:18:18 PM
Now that I look at the pics again, they are quite round at address. I was planning on waiting for the CX Micros before I made a decision anyway. Thanks for the feedback.


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: Eagleone on December 30, 2006, 12:21:02 AM
I'm going to replace the 5 iron with a hybrid.  Got the Innovex 3&4 RLS hybrids and will add the 5.  other than maybe some weight changes in the Mentor Sports Triad putter don't see a lot more changes at this time.


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: dyno on December 30, 2006, 01:26:31 AM
Can't hurt to have that option.  I'm just warming up to hybrids and the biggest key in any success I've had was to reduce the length to match that of the irons.  I cut my #3 Hybrid to 1/4" longer than 4iron and am reasonably pleased.  If anything I could cut it the same length and still maintain the distance gap.

Coincidentally I'm rockin' the Duet and use it as a belly putter with a 380g headweight.  Might have to cut it down as alittle fat found it's way from my head to my gut  :'(


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: Zoot on December 30, 2006, 06:24:46 AM
I don't plan on any changes to equipment.

I plan to revisit the wisdom of a good friend.  He passed it on to me years ago, as I was pleading my case for a new 3 wood.

"Dude,........ instead, why don't you learn to hit the one you already *fudge*in' own?  You're an idiot assclown  and you're away *8==>*face."



That's a more direct approach than used by most but I suppose his point is clear.  :)
works for me ;)
no planned changes for me this year either :)


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: BFBoy on December 30, 2006, 06:28:27 AM
Plans, for me, include:
1. New driver. The one I liked the best, I gave away to a friend, and the replacements haven't made me happy.
2. Maybe a long putter, since my putting SUCKS.
3. If the driver works out, I might not need the 5-iron to hit out from underneath trees ::). That would make way for a 5-hybrid. I love my 3 and 4 hybrids.
4. Some lessons to make better use of the stuff I've got.

The main thing will be finding enough time to practice and play.


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: Aske on December 30, 2006, 08:06:52 AM
nothing other than reshafting irons and maybe* upgrading to a bigger headsize of the driver I have


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: dyno on December 30, 2006, 04:00:48 PM
Plans, for me, include:
1. New driver. The one I liked the best, I gave away to a friend, and the replacements haven't made me happy.
2. Maybe a long putter, since my putting SUCKS.
3. If the driver works out, I might not need the 5-iron to hit out from underneath trees ::). That would make way for a 5-hybrid. I love my 3 and 4 hybrids.
4. Some lessons to make better use of the stuff I've got.

The main thing will be finding enough time to practice and play.


I had a client continually bug me about trying a belly putter.  His is completely ill fitting but he seems to like it and I'm not one to mess with success. In any case I slammed together a belly putter with spare parts in about 8 minutes then had one of my best putting rounds ever on very fast greens.  Been a convert every since....if belly doesn't work then the broomstick should for sure. Only negative is if you carry, they make the bag pretty heavy.


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: dyno on December 30, 2006, 04:02:06 PM
nothing other than reshafting irons and maybe* upgrading to a bigger headsize of the driver I have


The 420 is alittle clankier than the 380 but is definitely easier to hit directionally and for height.  I still have a 380 on a Speeder 652 and it's sweet.


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: tdcoly on December 30, 2006, 04:03:18 PM
Already done for 2007 (at least for now.)


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: BFBoy on December 30, 2006, 04:29:50 PM
Plans, for me, include:
1. New driver. The one I liked the best, I gave away to a friend, and the replacements haven't made me happy.
2. Maybe a long putter, since my putting SUCKS.
3. If the driver works out, I might not need the 5-iron to hit out from underneath trees ::). That would make way for a 5-hybrid. I love my 3 and 4 hybrids.
4. Some lessons to make better use of the stuff I've got.

The main thing will be finding enough time to practice and play.


I had a client continually bug me about trying a belly putter.  His is completely ill fitting but he seems to like it and I'm not one to mess with success. In any case I slammed together a belly putter with spare parts in about 8 minutes then had one of my best putting rounds ever on very fast greens.  Been a convert every since....if belly doesn't work then the broomstick should for sure. Only negative is if you carry, they make the bag pretty heavy.

I think the broomstick will be the way to go. I've made and tried a few belly putters, but the anchor point fluctuates too much :(. I've tried a few broomsticks, and they are much more consistent.


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: dyno on December 30, 2006, 06:38:23 PM
Already done for 2007 (at least for now.)

Over/under = 5 weeks :)


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: dyno on December 30, 2006, 06:42:04 PM
Plans, for me, include:
1. New driver. The one I liked the best, I gave away to a friend, and the replacements haven't made me happy.
2. Maybe a long putter, since my putting SUCKS.
3. If the driver works out, I might not need the 5-iron to hit out from underneath trees ::). That would make way for a 5-hybrid. I love my 3 and 4 hybrids.
4. Some lessons to make better use of the stuff I've got.

The main thing will be finding enough time to practice and play.


I had a client continually bug me about trying a belly putter.  His is completely ill fitting but he seems to like it and I'm not one to mess with success. In any case I slammed together a belly putter with spare parts in about 8 minutes then had one of my best putting rounds ever on very fast greens.  Been a convert every since....if belly doesn't work then the broomstick should for sure. Only negative is if you carry, they make the bag pretty heavy.

I think the broomstick will be the way to go. I've made and tried a few belly putters, but the anchor point fluctuates too much :(. I've tried a few broomsticks, and they are much more consistent.

Yeah, I gotta diet too because mine is too long right now  [sm_disgust]

If you can use an adjustable weight head, that will help you tune in the feel.  I've grown to dislike really heavy heads...380g in the Duet belly plus weight halfway down the shaft seems to give the feel I like.


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: Aske on December 30, 2006, 06:54:46 PM
nothing other than reshafting irons and maybe* upgrading to a bigger headsize of the driver I have


The 420 is alittle clankier than the 380 but is definitely easier to hit directionally and for height.  I still have a 380 on a Speeder 652 and it's sweet.

speeder 652?  how's that play?


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: BFBoy on December 30, 2006, 07:11:16 PM
Plans, for me, include:
1. New driver. The one I liked the best, I gave away to a friend, and the replacements haven't made me happy.
2. Maybe a long putter, since my putting SUCKS.
3. If the driver works out, I might not need the 5-iron to hit out from underneath trees ::). That would make way for a 5-hybrid. I love my 3 and 4 hybrids.
4. Some lessons to make better use of the stuff I've got.

The main thing will be finding enough time to practice and play.


I had a client continually bug me about trying a belly putter.  His is completely ill fitting but he seems to like it and I'm not one to mess with success. In any case I slammed together a belly putter with spare parts in about 8 minutes then had one of my best putting rounds ever on very fast greens.  Been a convert every since....if belly doesn't work then the broomstick should for sure. Only negative is if you carry, they make the bag pretty heavy.

I think the broomstick will be the way to go. I've made and tried a few belly putters, but the anchor point fluctuates too much :(. I've tried a few broomsticks, and they are much more consistent.

Yeah, I gotta diet too because mine is too long right now  [sm_disgust]

If you can use an adjustable weight head, that will help you tune in the feel.  I've grown to dislike really heavy heads...380g in the Duet belly plus weight halfway down the shaft seems to give the feel I like.

I've always liked heavier heads, but I've got a lot o time to experiment. What is a good adjustable head to start with?


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: dyno on December 30, 2006, 11:45:18 PM
nothing other than reshafting irons and maybe* upgrading to a bigger headsize of the driver I have


The 420 is alittle clankier than the 380 but is definitely easier to hit directionally and for height.  I still have a 380 on a Speeder 652 and it's sweet.

speeder 652?  how's that play?


Like a stiffer NVS.  You'd do better with 757 or one them fancy Rombax's. 


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: dyno on December 30, 2006, 11:49:43 PM

I've always liked heavier heads, but I've got a lot o time to experiment. What is a good adjustable head to start with?


I used to use Kirk Curries alot. Right now I have a Mentor Duet though the weight adjustability is pretty coarse...perhaps not all bad as you can confuse yourself with too many options.  The BG's have a backweight that can be released with an allen key and the hollow copper weight filled with tungsten or whatever.


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: MP on December 31, 2006, 12:42:16 AM
Some grips.  I really wish they'd bring back those Whispers.  Those were awesome.  Tried Winn T17 (i think).  They suck @ss. 


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: tdcoly on December 31, 2006, 08:28:32 AM
Already done for 2007 (at least for now.)

Over/under = 5 weeks :)

Take the over, chances are, it'll be March before I get to try what I've done.

Unless somebody here gets me to lusting over something new and improved.

Ted


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: Clive on December 31, 2006, 08:57:50 AM
Some grips.  I really wish they'd bring back those Whispers.  Those were awesome.
http://www.leaderboardgolf.com/closeoutgrips.htm


Title: Re: 2007 Planned Hoin' and Other Equipment Related Changes
Post by: dyno on December 31, 2006, 01:10:36 PM
Some grips.  I really wish they'd bring back those Whispers.  Those were awesome.  Tried Winn T17 (i think).  They suck @ss. 

I got a bunch of extras if you want. Black.