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During yesterday's round.  Par 3, 16th hole.

• Distance: 189 yards to center of green
• Elevation: green 50-75 feet below teeing area
• Flagstick/Hole Position: front center
• Flagstick/Hole Distance: estimated at 175 yards
• Altitude: ~6000 feet above sea level
• Temp: ~100 degrees
• Wind Direction: quartering from 1:30
• Wind Speed: steady at ~10 mph
• Wind Gusts: pushing 25 mph
• Dangerous Miss: left of green
• Safety Miss: short of green
• Sight Line: blind, believe it or not (tree)
• Local Knowledge: none

Had three clubs with me and no clue.  Picked the middle one, waited for gust to pass, made very nice stroke, dropped the shot perfectly no more than 10 feet right of the hole.  Absolute pure luck on picking the right club.  Missed the putt.  :sad3:

Question just for kicks:  What would you use?  Pick a club, any club.

edit: Added estimated distance to hole.

4h.

Club down two, take 3/4 swing to prevent ballooning?  (I thought "quartering" meant at one's back?  One-thirty ain't behind me, bub.)

What was yours?

Club down two from what?

I'm no sailor so you're probably right.  I thought quartering gave us the four off points of the compass - NW, SW, SE, NE.

Ain't tellin' my club.  It's a secret.  ;)

3/4 8i with a nice delofting.

I chose the 6I. But that is assuming that I have any ball striking prowess so late in the round. Otherwise 2 drivers and a PW :sad3:

LOL.  For real, I laughed out loud.

I'll go with a smooth 6.

LOL at the responses!

With the info given, I'd hit a 6.  Drunk, and loose, if it is a tad downhill, and I'm not against a wind, I'd hit a full 7.

[Feherty] Missing left isn't a problem for me, and coming up short isn't either.  So it's seems I'm in.  Oh, he's all over it BillY.  Oh, wait.  He's not. [/Feherty]

That's about a 4-iron distance for me, but I don't have a 4-iron, I use a 25º hybrid.  However, I would have taken a 5-iron to the tee box for consideration.

normal 4i (190 yd tee shot par 3)
flag in front - 5i
downhill 60-70 ft- 1.5-2 clubs off - 6.5-7i
100*F - 1 club off 7.5-8i
6000F- 1 club off 8.5-9i

all of the above, with wind just a bit into me from right to left, want to swing easy and hit it low, so add 1 club  - 7.5-8i

jnolan says safety miss- short of green-  play it safe, go 8i

pps, after thinking about it that much, i would probably top it.

I picked 4i, but didn't grok the elevation and downhill at the time, and would probably go 5i or 6i now.

The tree/blind sight line concerns me on a hole where I have no local knowledge, so I'd probably just aim for the safety miss (short of the green) and take my chances getting up and down.

I like aske's thought process.  I did something similar although I'm used to playing at 5000 feet or higher so I left that bit out.  I'm not sure the difference between 85* and 100* gets you much... at least not here where humidity is low.

The wind was very iffy.  Could be anything from a two club wind to not much to consider at all.

Elevation is an estimate but it's a long way down the hill from tee to green. 

Green is deeper than it is wide.  With a front hole location thinking about whether missing long is acceptable wasn't even in play.  Just didn't want to go left.  Short was best, right was alright, left sucked.  Not dead necessarily but with a bad bounce you could be in big trouble.

The hole itself isn't blind but where they had the markers, and how close together they were, caused this big tree/bush thing to be between you and flagstick.  You could barely see the back fringe of the green.  A six foot tall person maybe the back third.  You had to scope it out from outside the markers and then trust it.

dystopia said 'grok'.  Awesome. 

i know here when it goes from 60ish to 90ish   I gain a club
i know here that a 110 foot dropoff is a 3 club dropoff


i based everything else off guessing around that.

My cousin hit an 8i.  Poor shot went left and rolled down the cart path but it landed roughly hole high.  He's a big hitter and the distances you post seem to jive with his.

According to the Google, which sucked, a quartering wind is one kinda coming from the side.  For what that's worth.

Uisce, I meant take two clubs less than the yardage normally calls for, then a 3/4-swing on top of that.  Should account for the elevation, the altitude, and a safe miss being short.  I'd aim it to the side some and let the wind push it back -- I wouldn't try to bend it to fight the wind.  Hopefully, the trajectory would be lower than usual, too.

I figured the hole to be playing at about 170 yards over level ground with no wind.  I hit a 6i.  Didn't take much if anything off of it; didn't try to kill it.  I really smoothed the shot and threw it very high up into the wind aiming at the right front of the green.  I figured there was no chance I'd go long enough to cause trouble.  I thought that with my slight draw and the wind it might come back but not enough to miss left.  I was very confident that putting it up there would cause the wind to knock it straight down and it would stop where it landed. 

There was so much math going on I thought for sure I would over-think it.  I'm still not sure the equation was correct even though the result panned out.  I posted the question just to see the thought processes.  There was probably more going on on that shot than any other I've played in recent memory.  Very challenging.

I was able to commit and pull the trigger.  I think more than anything I have that to thank for the possible birdie / easy par. 

Thanks for playing.   ;D

I'd probably hit an 8 iron if the wind was right to left and not hurting much.  I'd probably try and hit it hard and ride the wind with a draw.  If the wind was hurting more then I'd hit a 7 iron with an abbreviated follow-thru trying to get a slight fade. 

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