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Title: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: Teed on February 17, 2008, 03:39:51 AM http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSL1643184420080216
Pardon me if this was already posted. Well I have a great new upconversion DVD. My oppo is great also. I'm looking for sales on HD-DVD movies now. Title: Re: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: Spanky on February 17, 2008, 10:23:53 AM It was posted, no harm though. To see that Microsoft is looking at making the Xbox Bluray compatible is interesting.
Title: Re: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: Uisce Beatha on February 18, 2008, 07:50:49 AM Well I have a great new upconversion DVD. My oppo is great also. I'm looking for sales on HD-DVD movies now. I can't remember what you bought Teed but unless it was a A35 you have a great upconverter for not much more $$$ than a standard upconverter but it also plays HD-DVD which, as you say, will be available cheap soon. While I realize I backed the wrong horse in strict win-loss terms I don't regret my purchase at all. I have 50+ movies that will still work for as long as I keep my player running (my Marantz DVD/SACD player is still in pristine working condition after 10 years). Not a perfect situation but I haven't lost any sleep over it. I'm getting a kick out of the smackdown forums. There are a half-dozen deluded HD-DVD fanbois posting silly *feces* about the war being still on and legions of blubots responding in glee. I'm guessing at least a few of the HD-DVD guys are wise enough and doing it just to egg them on. You don't want to spend more than a few minutes in there or your brain will seize but it's good for a larf or two. Just got Stardust and Bourne Ultimatum. Eyes open for sales. Title: Re: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: Aske on February 18, 2008, 08:04:49 AM Well I have a great new upconversion DVD. My oppo is great also. I'm looking for sales on HD-DVD movies now. I can't remember what you bought Teed but unless it was a A35 you have a great upconverter for not much more $$$ than a standard upconverter but it also plays HD-DVD which, as you say, will be available cheap soon. While I realize I backed the wrong horse in strict win-loss terms I don't regret my purchase at all. I have 50+ movies that will still work for as long as I keep my player running (my Marantz DVD/SACD player is still in pristine working condition after 10 years). Not a perfect situation but I haven't lost any sleep over it. I'm getting a kick out of the smackdown forums. There are a half-dozen deluded HD-DVD fanbois posting silly *feces* about the war being still on and legions of blubots responding in glee. I'm guessing at least a few of the HD-DVD guys are wise enough and doing it just to egg them on. You don't want to spend more than a few minutes in there or your brain will seize but it's good for a larf or two. Just got Stardust and Bourne Ultimatum. Eyes open for sales. not to mention that some of the titles, while they will move over to Blu when Uni/Paramount eventually switch, will probably not be released for 2-3 years if at ever, based on their less than stellar sales so far. what the war showed early is that blu fanbois and the majority of the blubase (ps3) is not interested in old classics and catalogues, only new releases and major action/sci fi films. Title: Re: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: Aske on February 19, 2008, 11:49:44 AM http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/LG/LG_to_Continue_HD_DVD_Support/1484
there will be at least 1 more generation of LG dual format players. toshiba, it's on you to step up now and announced continued legacy support for us. :) Title: Re: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: Aske on February 19, 2008, 12:25:33 PM lmao, i just read a stat that only 7% of {usa} domestic bluray titles are available (legally) in australia so far.
you just gotta love region coding! ::) go-go-outdated-korprit interests Title: Re: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: Uisce Beatha on February 19, 2008, 02:34:04 PM Blu-ray's sales have remained relatively flat over the announcements of the past 45 days. Given that *some* percentage of HD-DVD guys probably went blue during that time it seems it might have even been a bit of a decline. But didn't Blu-ray win?
Honestly, there are about three school bus loads of people on the planet who give a *feces* about HDM. The format (HDM itself, not Blu-ray) has a long way to go before J6P even starts to wonder about it. HD-DVD blowouts should begin any second now. Please post any deals. ;D Title: Re: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: Teed on February 19, 2008, 04:48:42 PM Well I have a great new upconversion DVD. My oppo is great also. I'm looking for sales on HD-DVD movies now. I can't remember what you bought Teed but unless it was a A35 you have a great upconverter for not much more $$$ than a standard upconverter but it also plays HD-DVD which, as you say, will be available cheap soon. While I realize I backed the wrong horse in strict win-loss terms I don't regret my purchase at all. I have 50+ movies that will still work for as long as I keep my player running (my Marantz DVD/SACD player is still in pristine working condition after 10 years). Not a perfect situation but I haven't lost any sleep over it. I'm getting a kick out of the smackdown forums. There are a half-dozen deluded HD-DVD fanbois posting silly *feces* about the war being still on and legions of blubots responding in glee. I'm guessing at least a few of the HD-DVD guys are wise enough and doing it just to egg them on. You don't want to spend more than a few minutes in there or your brain will seize but it's good for a larf or two. Just got Stardust and Bourne Ultimatum. Eyes open for sales. A20 for $99.00 and 5 free HD-DVD movies. I spent more drinking in a weekend, back when I used to drink. Title: Re: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: Aske on February 20, 2008, 02:11:43 PM just ordered an a35 for $170 shipped (new condition)
a20 will be placed in backup status. should have enough players to work for 8-10 years bring on the movie blowouts prices on new releases (american gangster, etc) Title: Re: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: twoiron on February 20, 2008, 02:34:20 PM What I'm lovin about this is the twats who went out and bought the Toshiba units here and paid top dollar for them cos they just had to be the first ones to have it and are now stuck with redunant technology.
Suck it up champ!! You're probably the same fools that went out and bought Beta. Stop complaining and go sit in a Starbuck$ and enjoy your mocha latte half caf!! Title: Re: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: Aske on February 20, 2008, 02:51:59 PM 2i, the funny thing is by SONY and BLURAY winning, countries like australia lose thanks to region coding. hacking BD players to region-free will be almost umpossible, unlike the older SD DVD. you'll get to enjoy what movies the studios decide australia should get, instead of what is available worldwide :)
Title: Re: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: twoiron on February 20, 2008, 03:22:04 PM 2i, the funny thing is by SONY and BLURAY winning, countries like australia lose thanks to region coding. hacking BD players to region-free will be almost umpossible, unlike the older SD DVD. you'll get to enjoy what movies the studios decide australia should get, instead of what is available worldwide :) Fair point, but to be honest, a large percentage of the population would be too stupid to notice. The same people who voted for Dan Browns Da Vinci Code as the greatest book / novel of all time. The same people who think art house films are about some dude who owns an art gallery. The same people who can't pronounce Film Noir let alone spell it. The same people who discuss cinematography at dinner parties and know *fudge* all what they're talking about and lastly they're the same people who wouldn't recognise the significance of a plot point if it came up and bit them on the ass... ;) Title: Re: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: Uisce Beatha on February 20, 2008, 04:15:33 PM What I'm lovin about this is the twats who went out and bought the Toshiba units here and paid top dollar for them cos they just had to be the first ones to have it and are now stuck with redunant technology. Suck it up champ!! You're probably the same fools that went out and bought Beta. Stop complaining and go sit in a Starbuck$ and enjoy your mocha latte half caf!! [sm_anon] Although I do enjoy my coffee black. Title: Re: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: Aske on February 20, 2008, 04:53:23 PM *rant on*
for the record, just to get it off my chest, I didn't pay top dollar for my players, i got all of them heavily below msrp, and two essentially for free, and while yes, i do have software that runs the risk of being useless someday (if i no longer have hardware to play it...hence my 'suck it ip and buy a backup player. no biggie) it's no big deal to me at this point... as i don't expect it to happen. it's far harder to 'suck up' the fact that a far far far more anticonsumer-procorporation technology won, largely on bribes, rather than letting consumers really pick what they wanted. in the end, i'll have $300-$400 in players extra spent, but I'll be watching hd-dvds and blurays (eventually) likely till both are obsolete. over that 8-10 year window, the extra player cost will far be offset by both enjoyable use over the time frame, and , as well, the fact I would wager some of the titles i now have on hd-dvd will likely not be on bluray at all- their sales tanked on hd-dvd- studios aren't impressed with catalogue sales. i would not , even knowing what i know now about who 'won' buy into blu ray 1 year ago, 6 months ago, or even yet today. it's a piece of crap evolving format that only offers (to date) crippled hardware, mediocre software, and excessive DRM. (i would still have bought into hd-dvd, although I likely would have bought a few less hd-dvd titles-- i would have waited till the current firesales. that is all) *rant off* :) Title: Re: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: Aske on February 20, 2008, 05:15:29 PM [sm_beertoast]
thanks for at least giving us a chance at a far more consumer friendly, lower cost, and better performing format toshiba, even though it didn't work out Title: Re: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: twoiron on February 20, 2008, 05:16:08 PM *rant on* for the record, just to get it off my chest, I didn't pay top dollar for my players, i got all of them heavily below msrp, and two essentially for free, and while yes, i do have software that runs the risk of being useless someday (if i no longer have hardware to play it...hence my 'suck it ip and buy a backup player. no biggie) it's no big deal to me at this point... as i don't expect it to happen. it's far harder to 'suck up' the fact that a far far far more anticonsumer-procorporation technology won, largely on bribes, rather than letting consumers really pick what they wanted. in the end, i'll have $300-$400 in players extra spent, but I'll be watching hd-dvds and blurays (eventually) likely till both are obsolete. over that 8-10 year window, the extra player cost will far be offset by both enjoyable use over the time frame, and , as well, the fact I would wager some of the titles i now have on hd-dvd will likely not be on bluray at all- their sales tanked on hd-dvd- studios aren't impressed with catalogue sales. i would not , even knowing what i know now about who 'won' buy into blu ray 1 year ago, 6 months ago, or even yet today. it's a piece of crap evolving format that only offers (to date) crippled hardware, mediocre software, and excessive DRM. (i would still have bought into hd-dvd, although I likely would have bought a few less hd-dvd titles-- i would have waited till the current firesales. that is all) *rant off* :) Hey aske I wasn't inferring that you were ever or are likely to be a twat. I understand your point about anti-consumerism and so forth and clearly that sucks the bollocks like a $2 Ho! I was generally referring to the twats here who'll pay $1500-$2000 for a unit that you would pay atleast a quarter of that price. ;) Title: Re: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: Aske on February 20, 2008, 05:19:49 PM *rant on* for the record, just to get it off my chest, I didn't pay top dollar for my players, i got all of them heavily below msrp, and two essentially for free, and while yes, i do have software that runs the risk of being useless someday (if i no longer have hardware to play it...hence my 'suck it ip and buy a backup player. no biggie) it's no big deal to me at this point... as i don't expect it to happen. it's far harder to 'suck up' the fact that a far far far more anticonsumer-procorporation technology won, largely on bribes, rather than letting consumers really pick what they wanted. in the end, i'll have $300-$400 in players extra spent, but I'll be watching hd-dvds and blurays (eventually) likely till both are obsolete. over that 8-10 year window, the extra player cost will far be offset by both enjoyable use over the time frame, and , as well, the fact I would wager some of the titles i now have on hd-dvd will likely not be on bluray at all- their sales tanked on hd-dvd- studios aren't impressed with catalogue sales. i would not , even knowing what i know now about who 'won' buy into blu ray 1 year ago, 6 months ago, or even yet today. it's a piece of crap evolving format that only offers (to date) crippled hardware, mediocre software, and excessive DRM. (i would still have bought into hd-dvd, although I likely would have bought a few less hd-dvd titles-- i would have waited till the current firesales. that is all) *rant off* :) Hey aske I wasn't inferring that you were ever or are likely to be a twat. I understand your point about anti-consumerism and so forth and clearly that sucks the bollocks like a $2 Ho! I was generally referring to the twats here who'll pay $1500-$2000 for a unit that you would pay atleast a quarter of that price. ;) thanks 2i, i was sure you weren't addressing this forum members, i just felt like replying to you and letting some steam off. please don't think i was angry at your post, just been waiting to officially let out one last "you can have my hd-dvd when you pry it..." post. [sm_devil] [sm_beertoast] [sm_devil] :yield: to bluray in 6-12 months. at least let me lube up first, BDA. Title: Re: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: twoiron on February 20, 2008, 05:28:49 PM *rant on* for the record, just to get it off my chest, I didn't pay top dollar for my players, i got all of them heavily below msrp, and two essentially for free, and while yes, i do have software that runs the risk of being useless someday (if i no longer have hardware to play it...hence my 'suck it ip and buy a backup player. no biggie) it's no big deal to me at this point... as i don't expect it to happen. it's far harder to 'suck up' the fact that a far far far more anticonsumer-procorporation technology won, largely on bribes, rather than letting consumers really pick what they wanted. in the end, i'll have $300-$400 in players extra spent, but I'll be watching hd-dvds and blurays (eventually) likely till both are obsolete. over that 8-10 year window, the extra player cost will far be offset by both enjoyable use over the time frame, and , as well, the fact I would wager some of the titles i now have on hd-dvd will likely not be on bluray at all- their sales tanked on hd-dvd- studios aren't impressed with catalogue sales. i would not , even knowing what i know now about who 'won' buy into blu ray 1 year ago, 6 months ago, or even yet today. it's a piece of crap evolving format that only offers (to date) crippled hardware, mediocre software, and excessive DRM. (i would still have bought into hd-dvd, although I likely would have bought a few less hd-dvd titles-- i would have waited till the current firesales. that is all) *rant off* :) Hey aske I wasn't inferring that you were ever or are likely to be a twat. I understand your point about anti-consumerism and so forth and clearly that sucks the bollocks like a $2 Ho! I was generally referring to the twats here who'll pay $1500-$2000 for a unit that you would pay atleast a quarter of that price. ;) thanks 2i, i was sure you weren't addressing this forum members, i just felt like replying to you and letting some steam off. please don't think i was angry at your post, just been waiting to officially let out one last "you can have my hd-dvd when you pry it..." post. [sm_devil] [sm_beertoast] [sm_devil] :yield: to bluray in 6-12 months. at least let me lube up first, BDA. No worries ;) It's healthy for this Fourm. Besides, I probably wouldn't refer to the members here as twats, I'd probably use something equally as offensive yet more obscure..;.. Title: Re: Toshiba surrenders! Post by: stroh on February 21, 2008, 05:17:15 AM [sm_anon] Although I do enjoy my coffee black. You're lucky YouTube was down for updates last night. |