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Title: the oklahoma city whats? Post by: Aske on April 18, 2008, 01:20:29 PM http://cbs.sportsline.com/nba/story/10786594
Title: Re: the oklahoma city whats? Post by: stroh on April 18, 2008, 01:36:17 PM The Queens will be in L.A. by 2011.
Title: Re: the oklahoma city whats? Post by: Fuzzy on April 18, 2008, 01:36:38 PM This whole thing is B.S. I feel bad for the fans in Seattle the way this has played out.
Give them the Wolves. Seriously. Title: Re: the oklahoma city whats? Post by: stroh on April 18, 2008, 01:38:51 PM This whole thing is B.S. I feel bad for the fans in Seattle the way this has played out. Give them the Wolves. Seriously. ;D Agreed. Complete with McFail! Title: Re: the oklahoma city whats? Post by: Aske on April 18, 2008, 01:39:39 PM This whole thing is B.S. I feel bad for the fans in Seattle the way this has played out. Give them the Wolves. Seriously. surely they'd welcome a 2 game improvement Title: Re: the oklahoma city whats? Post by: stroh on April 18, 2008, 01:40:12 PM This whole thing is B.S. I feel bad for the fans in Seattle the way this has played out. Give them the Wolves. Seriously. surely they'd welcome a 2 game improvement [sm_rolling] Title: Re: the oklahoma city whats? Post by: Fuzzy on April 18, 2008, 01:42:00 PM The Queens will be in L.A. by 2011. Zygi will get his stadium one way or another. I guarantee he is keeping every option open. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=nfl&id=3350847 Quote LOS ANGELES -- Billionaire developer Edward P. Roski Jr. has made a commitment to build the kind of stadium an NFL team needs to thrive in Los Angeles. Now, he's hoping one will commit to play there. Roski, a part owner of the Kings and Lakers who has spent years trying to lure the NFL back to this area, unveiled plans Thursday for a 75,000-seat facility in the City of Industry he said could be finished in time for the 2011 season. "I intend to develop our stadium project that meets all of the NFL requirements, and more," Roski said at a Staples Center news conference, where stadium models and artist renditions were displayed. "Always the most important thing has been the certainty of doing this. A team is not going to commit to coming to Los Angeles without a stadium. We've taken this one point of uncertainty and made it a certainty. The stadium is a certainty and it will be built." And, Roski added, without public money. "Absolutely no taxpayer dollars," he said. "There's no taxpayer dollars to get." The proposed 600-acre site, near the southern intersection of the 57 and 60 freeways about 20 miles east of Los Angeles, would be surrounded by a shopping mall, and located on a vacant property which Roski already owns. Roski said around 12 million people live within 25 miles of the site. Quote The one obvious obstacle standing in the way is a tenant for the new stadium. Possibilities might include the New Orleans Saints, Jacksonville Jaguars, Minnesota Vikings and San Diego Chargers because of their stadium uncertainties. Roski made it clear construction will not begin until a team agreed to move, adding he did not expect an expansion team to be involved. The NFL has said it has no plans to expand from its present 32 teams, and it's also clear Los Angeles is not a high priority with the league at this time. But that might not stop a team with stadium uncertainties to make the move. Title: Re: the oklahoma city whats? Post by: stroh on April 18, 2008, 01:45:54 PM On the artist's rendition, the seats are purple. :sad3:
Title: Re: the oklahoma city whats? Post by: Aske on April 18, 2008, 01:46:23 PM The Queens will be in L.A. by 2011. Zygi will get his stadium one way or another. I guarantee he is keeping every option open. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=nfl&id=3350847 Quote LOS ANGELES -- Billionaire developer Edward P. Roski Jr. has made a commitment to build the kind of stadium an NFL team needs to thrive in Los Angeles. Now, he's hoping one will commit to play there. Roski, a part owner of the Kings and Lakers who has spent years trying to lure the NFL back to this area, unveiled plans Thursday for a 75,000-seat facility in the City of Industry he said could be finished in time for the 2011 season. "I intend to develop our stadium project that meets all of the NFL requirements, and more," Roski said at a Staples Center news conference, where stadium models and artist renditions were displayed. "Always the most important thing has been the certainty of doing this. A team is not going to commit to coming to Los Angeles without a stadium. We've taken this one point of uncertainty and made it a certainty. The stadium is a certainty and it will be built." And, Roski added, without public money. "Absolutely no taxpayer dollars," he said. "There's no taxpayer dollars to get." The proposed 600-acre site, near the southern intersection of the 57 and 60 freeways about 20 miles east of Los Angeles, would be surrounded by a shopping mall, and located on a vacant property which Roski already owns. Roski said around 12 million people live within 25 miles of the site. Quote The one obvious obstacle standing in the way is a tenant for the new stadium. Possibilities might include the New Orleans Saints, Jacksonville Jaguars, Minnesota Vikings and San Diego Chargers because of their stadium uncertainties. Roski made it clear construction will not begin until a team agreed to move, adding he did not expect an expansion team to be involved. The NFL has said it has no plans to expand from its present 32 teams, and it's also clear Los Angeles is not a high priority with the league at this time. But that might not stop a team with stadium uncertainties to make the move. he should just take that vegas bet on a 19-0 vikes season (probably paying off at more than 100,000:1) then payoff all the other teams to throw the games. Title: Re: the oklahoma city whats? Post by: spacey on April 18, 2008, 01:50:11 PM This whole thing is B.S. I feel bad for the fans in Seattle the way this has played out. Dude, why add insult to injury?Give them the Wolves. Seriously. Title: Re: the oklahoma city whats? Post by: Fuzzy on April 18, 2008, 01:58:03 PM I should clarify.
Give OKC the Wolves. It'll be like a new toy. Keep the Sonics in Seattle. spacey's right, I don't want to make a bad situation worse. Title: Re: the oklahoma city whats? Post by: Walfredo on April 19, 2008, 07:56:10 AM oklahoma city zealots?
not sure but I bet it will have something to do with tornadoes ::) but seatle can *fudge* off. Baseball stadium: state of the art Football stadium: state of the art as well Basketball stadium: 47 year old relic that should be imploded if they can't be bothered to build a new, they should be surprised with the outcome Besides I'd reather have the Hornets anyway. Title: Re: the oklahoma city whats? Post by: Seamus on April 19, 2008, 08:48:00 AM Quote but Seattle can *fudge* off. He said what.Crappy team this year, worst season ever by far, and the 17,000 seat Coliseum was sold at 78% capacity for the year, it's a good young team with a potential superstar or two (even if one of them is a dang Hoya). The Sonics were the first professional team in the North West and to see them go is a travesty of the greatest sports kind. There's a bigger thing happening here and Sterns a part of it, some kind of rich boy shenanigans that we won't be privy too, we're not in that club. In the last ten years or so the people of King County have helped pay for these state of the art arenas that Walfredo mentions, to the tune of 1 billion dollars, thankfully Paul Allen picked up a pretty decent chunk of the Hawks stadium, but that's what owners should do if they want a new crib for their million dollar baby's. Bennett knew what he was doing, probably had a gut feeling we wouldn't finance another new stadium. Heck we're still paying for the renovation to the Coliseum that either Howard Schultz wanted or the owner before him. Leave the number 12 market in the country for the what 40th or 50th, it doesn't make sense. If your team has a few bad years, and your owner wants a new stadium with all the current bells and whistle, or he just wants out, this just might happen to you. I don't think Stroh is far wrong. L.A. Vikings in 2011...imagine what that would do to Torpedo, he'd look like DeNiro in awakenings. edit I'm going to throw in this disclaimer from now on. My numbers or facts may be off, I will humbly bow to the greater knowledge that is MFAWG. Represented by this. [sm_bow] MFAWG Title: Re: the oklahoma city whats? Post by: Fuzzy on April 19, 2008, 08:58:43 AM oklahoma city zealots? not sure but I bet it will have something to do with tornadoes ::) but seatle can *fudge* off. Baseball stadium: state of the art Football stadium: state of the art as well Basketball stadium: 47 year old relic that should be imploded if they can't be bothered to build a new, they should be surprised with the outcome Besides I'd reather have the Hornets anyway. [sm_shock] Really? *fudge* Seattle? You forget taxpayers helped completely rebuild Key Arena back in 1995. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_Arena Quote It was completely rebuilt in between 1994 and 1995. The building's original roofline was used as a guide, but almost everything about the arena was brand new aside from the roof trusses and some of the original concrete supports. The court was lowered 35 feet (10.5 meters) below street level to allow for 3,000 more seats. After the rebuild, the Coliseum was renamed KeyArena, as Key Bank purchased the naming rights. The first regular season game that the Seattle SuperSonics played in the rebuilt arena was on November 4, 1995, against the Los Angeles Lakers. *I had a three paragraph rant about professional sports and the owners but I counted to 10 and took a deep breath.* Title: Re: the oklahoma city whats? Post by: Fuzzy on April 19, 2008, 09:09:13 AM I don't think Stroh is far wrong. L.A. Vikings in 2011...imagine what that would do to Torpedo, he'd look like DeNiro in awakenings. If Zygi doesn't get a new playground the Vikings will be gone. Title: Re: the oklahoma city whats? Post by: Seamus on April 19, 2008, 09:16:43 AM Quote *I had a three paragraph rant about professional sports and the owners but I counted to 10 and took a deep breath.* You done good. Thanks for coming to our defense.Quote You forget taxpayers helped completely rebuild Key Arena back in 1995. I think were still paying for it.[sm_bow] MFAWG Title: Re: the oklahoma city whats? Post by: spacey on April 19, 2008, 09:27:36 AM The Seattle fans are getting jobbed, straight up. The thing I find ironic is that David Stearn, who has always argued that if it's possible to keep a franchise in the city with which it is historically linked, everything possible should be done to keep it there, is one of the guys really leading the charge to move the Sonics. I wonder what he stands to gain from the move, financially or otherwise.
I don't argue that Oklahoma City wouldn't be a great NBA town, I think the NO experience proved they could be, but the way it's going down sucks. Title: Re: the oklahoma city whats? Post by: Walfredo on April 20, 2008, 11:13:30 AM I didn't mean it like *fudge* seattle more like aww *fudge* seattle they still have two good major sport franchises in my favorite major sports. I don't really even care for a NBA team. And no doubt the people of seatle got screwed out of a team. And no doubt the new owners master plan played out exactly as they hoped. Bennett married a Gaylord and had the biggest players in okc on his team, and if anyone was bringing a major league team to okc, dammit it was going to be them. No way they let George Shin into town because he sure wasn't selling away any ownership. They were going to accomplish that no matter the collateral damage.
Why the *fudge* did Schultz sell them anyway? I would much rather have taken the mariners or the seahawks though. ;) I agree you have every right to be pissed. Hell I voted against our tax to remodel the 7 year old arena that made this all possible. :yield: |