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Title: Morgantown3d
Post by: gleek on December 27, 2007, 07:35:26 PM
Well, not really. I guess this should have been expected.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3170410

What I can't believe is that Rodriguez isn't coaching the Mountaineers through to their bowl game. Seems like *8==>* move, unless it was WVU that decided that they didn't want Rodriguez around for the game.


Title: Re: Morgantown3d
Post by: stroh on December 27, 2007, 07:45:15 PM
The article isn't very specific.  I'm confused.  Is this money he had already received, or money he would have been due?


Title: Re: Morgantown3d
Post by: gleek on December 27, 2007, 07:47:32 PM
The article isn't very specific.  I'm confused.  Is this money he had already received, or money he would have been due?

Money he'd have to pay WVU for not completing the terms of his contract.

Edit: I heard he's going to try to weasel his way out of paying by bringing up stupid *feces* like not being able to get free game tickets for his wife and not being able to get free game tickets for visiting HS coaches of recruits. Totally lame *feces* that WVU supposedly promised him.


Title: Re: Morgantown3d
Post by: stroh on December 27, 2007, 07:53:51 PM
So, (maybe I'm just tired, and being thick)  let's say he has a 4 year 4 million dollar deal, coaches 2 years, gets paid 2 million, then takes another job.  He has to pay the money back for the coaching he's already done?

Isn't the flip side them having to buy him out when they fire him?

[I guess I've never heard of a contract where if you didn't fulfill it, you had to give the money back.  Other than like the Vick deal, but I think that's different.]

[Edit:  Unless, I guess it's like an upfront bonus.  Damn!  How much cash was this dude gettin'?]

Like I said, I'm beat.


Title: Re: Morgantown3d
Post by: gleek on December 27, 2007, 08:56:00 PM
I'm not sure what he got paid at WVU, but he renegotiated his contract just last year and declared that he'd be there for the long-term. Just goes to show that in the decision between more money and sticking to principle, money always wins. My guess is that he'll have his lawyers try to negotiate down the $4 million. Hell, I bet UM will probably pay the attorney fees for him.


Title: Re: Morgantown3d
Post by: Aske on December 27, 2007, 08:57:41 PM
all i know is whoever inherited (inherits ?) the WVU they are stocked for their 1st year if nobody goes early to the draft.  wow.


Title: Re: Morgantown3d
Post by: gleek on December 27, 2007, 09:01:40 PM
all i know is whoever inherited (inherits ?) the WVU they are stocked for their 1st year if nobody goes early to the draft.  wow.


I hope Rodriguez goes 0-12 at his new job. The more I read about him, the more I think that this was a total *8==>* move.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Rodriguez

Quote
On December 16, 2007, Rodriguez informed players at West Virginia that he was leaving to succeed Lloyd Carr as the University of Michigan head football coach. Rodriguez's original resignation letter, which he left with a graduate assistant to deliver to WVU officials shortly after meeting with his players, lists January 3, 2008, as his resignation date, however he subsequently made it clear that he will not be coaching WVU in its January 2 appearance at the 2008 Fiesta Bowl vs the University of Oklahoma. Some press reports suggested that the resignation letter was a ploy intended to put WVU officials into a position of "firing" Rodriguez before the bowl game, allowing him to escape the $4 million buyout clause in his seven-year contract with WVU. On December 18, 2007, Rodriguez informed the university that his resignation would instead be effective at midnight that night.

The announcement of his departure comes just one year after Rodriguez last renegotiated his contract with West Virginia, and was made despite his stated long-term commitment to the Mountaineers. After being considered for the head coaching job at Alabama in 2006, he stated to the media, "When the details (of the new contract with WVU) come out, you’ll see that I’m committed to West Virginia University for a very, very long time."

An accusation was made that Rodriguez deliberately sabotaged the last game he coached at WVU, against the University of Pittsburgh, in order to avoid being in a situation of negotiating with Michigan while coaching WVU in the BCS Championship. This accusation remains unproven. This is exasperated by known conflicts between Rodriguez and the controversial new President of WVU, Mike Garrison, and the potential violation of NCAA rules committed by Rodriguez in contacting a recruit he had already made for WVU about his move to Michigan while still employed by WVU.


Title: Re: Morgantown3d
Post by: Fuzzy on December 28, 2007, 08:58:22 AM
I'm convinced MOST football coaches have a lot of weasel in them. Any time you turn over the stone and do some research you'll find some *feces*ty stuff going on. Bobby Petrino makes this guy look like Mother Teresa.


Title: Re: Morgantown3d
Post by: birdymaker on December 28, 2007, 02:07:26 PM


I hope Rodriguez goes 0-12 at his new job. The more I read about him, the more I think that this was a total *8==>* move.


now just a minute there skippy. [sm_sumo] :ninja:  [sm_devil]



Title: Re: Morgantown3d
Post by: Blader on December 28, 2007, 03:14:00 PM
An accusation was made that Rodriguez deliberately sabotaged the last game he coached at WVU, against the University of Pittsburgh, in order to avoid being in a situation of negotiating with Michigan while coaching WVU in the BCS Championship.
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Ahhhh.....THAT explains how WVU lost that game.  What a hoot!  Even if it was an honest loss, there is no way a good coach loses that game.  Michigan just hired a guy who is probably not going to continue the Blue tradition of winning all the games they are supposed to win.

Still, I don't think what Rodriquez is doing is so bad...hell, he was there for 7 years, which is damn close to an eternity.  That's the coaching business, they are all hired guns and its foolish to view them as anything other than that. 

That $4 million buyout clause is pretty steep...real steep.  Used to be, the buyouts were set at a price point that boosters (at the receiving university) could afford to make the payoff to get their new guy.

I can't see Michigan picking up even half that tab.  In my book, if anything, it proves he's a dummy.......for signing a contract with that term.