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Title: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: Spanky on February 07, 2007, 06:52:57 PM
http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/legislature/stories/DN-hpv_03tex.ART0.State.Edition2.29833d6.html

Not sure I agree with it.


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: twoiron on February 07, 2007, 07:04:07 PM
Currently this is being done here.

I guess if you can vaccinate one half of the population as well as prevent Cervical Cancer then yeah... its a good thing.


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: Spanky on February 07, 2007, 07:10:09 PM
I just don't like how it was forced into law so quickly. Gov. Perry I am sure got some kind of kickback.


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: Clive on February 07, 2007, 08:10:54 PM
I thought this was another "talk about TFT's junk" thread ...


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: Salamander on February 07, 2007, 08:43:47 PM
In Greece it's already mandatory, and the state pays for it too.


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: spacey on February 07, 2007, 09:08:18 PM
I thought this was another "talk about TFT's junk" thread ...
Wishful thinking? NTTAWWT.


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: lennyquai on February 08, 2007, 12:02:42 AM
As an old friend once said, explaining why he was perfectly content to keep his family to 2 sons, "With boys, you have 1 *8==>* to worry about; with girls, you have to worry about all the *8==>*s."

My little girl is pretty cute; I'm screwed.  That's why she's in martial arts, so she can defend herself against the penis. 

My wife didn't take martial arts.


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: dystopia on February 08, 2007, 09:47:27 AM
LOL at lennyquai  ;D


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: Aske on February 08, 2007, 09:55:41 AM
maybe its because we aren't parents yet, or that I'm a guy... but this makes sense.

you get your kids vaccinated for all kinds of *feces* they probably will NEVER be exposed to.    hpv is everywhere.


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: spacey on February 08, 2007, 09:58:38 AM
Laura has already decided that if we have girls they will get the shot/s. However, I am not certain I'm comfortable with a state issued mandate, though IIRC parents are able to opt out.


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: Clive on February 08, 2007, 10:55:02 AM
My wife has done a lot of reading about the statistical link between autism and either DPT or MMR vaccine (brain fart on which, but it's administered as a cocktail of the three).  Autism went from ~1:10,000 to ~1:300, and it's more prevalent in boys.  The link is no slam-dunk, but it's non-trivial to more than a handful of sane people.

We'd like to administer each vaccine separately, rather than bundled.  We can't even find a practice that offers them that way -- everyone has only the full, mainstream cocktail.

We also looked into the alternative (not immunizing): NC law will not permit our son to enter school with all three, absent a religious objection that pretty much NO ONE qualifies for.

Where's MY state's conservative group bleating about the State replacing the parents?


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: spacey on February 08, 2007, 11:05:14 AM
Clive- I'm no expert and will not claim to be. I'm wondering, though, what the time period is for the major escalation of cases of autism, and curious if some of the numbers might be at least partially related to better diagnosis of autism?

Certainly I can't assume that much of a rise being completely related to better diagnosis, but I know over the last 30+ years much of what was considered "that kid just ain't right" now has a name, which can often lead to somewhat skewed reporting of the per capita rise of many popular diagnoses.


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: Clive on February 08, 2007, 11:12:09 AM
Mrs.Clive has a toxicology background and has taken such things into account.


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: Aske on February 08, 2007, 11:13:12 AM
IIRC it's not just vaccination but also vast other environmental exposures through toxic compounds that is suspected in  autism rise


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: TFT on February 08, 2007, 11:13:21 AM
We waited as long as we could to do the MMR, it was the same 'well, no school for them if you don't' for us.

No pressure though.

There isn't anything solid with the link, but there are strong suggestions.

And we are talking about kids, it's not like that flaky link between smoking and tummy ache.


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: Clive on February 08, 2007, 11:21:20 AM
I tend to follow the precautionary principle.  In this case, the vaccines are supposedly available separately.  We're not militating that our son not get any vaccinations, just that we go the route that doesn't seem to have the cloud of doubt over it.


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: stroh on February 08, 2007, 11:46:51 AM
............. also vast other environmental exposures through toxic compounds


Golf club glue?


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: Clive on February 08, 2007, 11:50:04 AM
We only epoxy him to the wall when he's especially unruly.


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: spacey on February 08, 2007, 11:55:21 AM
We only epoxy him to the wall when he's especially unruly.

I assume you're using quick set. It has a higher temp release point but it might be tough to hold him up there during a longer curing process. Any epoxy bond failures?


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: Clive on February 08, 2007, 12:06:27 PM
We first use a bench grinder to abrade the surfaces to be joined.


"Rub some dirt on it!"


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: spacey on February 08, 2007, 01:51:20 PM
This seems timely: Autism in US affects 1 in 150 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17047721/)


Title: Re: Kind of glad I have boys
Post by: stroh on February 08, 2007, 02:01:10 PM
This seems timely: Autism in US affects 1 in 150 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17047721/)

.........yeah.