Title: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 06:56:30 AM 5 or 6 huge games today that can prolong another 1-2 weeks of tightness atop a few divisions or otherwise end a lot of worry right here and now.
what games are you going to watch? Early on I think I'll flip mostly between NYJ-TENN, NEW-MIA, and PHI-BAL . Lots of RedZone channel watching too , of course. 2 Good games late with NYG-ARI and CAR-ATL. The Sun and Mon night games looked great on paper to start the season, but meh, I can barely get motivated for them. (Of course I'll still end up watching them probably LOL) Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 06:56:53 AM Fire OMAR TOMLIN!
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 07:18:51 AM the NFC "underachiever/bad coaching/inconsistency/what the f is this" effect
Team, W, L, T, W%, PF, PA, Net P, Net PPG St. Louis 2 8 0 0.2 144 317 -173 -17.3 Detroit 0 10 0 0 173 308 -135 -13.5 Seattle 2 8 0 0.2 190 257 -67 -6.7 San Francisco 3 7 0 0.3 230 275 -45 -4.5 Minnesota 5 5 0 0.5 223 234 -11 -1.1 Washington 6 4 0 0.6 181 182 -1 -0.1 Dallas 6 4 0 0.6 230 229 1 0.1 Chicago 5 5 0 0.5 240 231 9 0.9 New Orleans 5 5 0 0.5 266 249 17 1.7 Atlanta 6 4 0 0.6 231 198 33 3.3 Tampa Bay 7 3 0 0.7 219 160 59 5.9 Arizona 7 3 0 0.7 289 228 61 6.1 Green Bay 5 5 0 0.5 274 209 65 6.5 Carolina 8 2 0 0.8 222 155 67 6.7 Philadelphia 5 4 1 0.55 264 193 71 7.1 N.Y. Giants 9 1 0 0.9 292 170 122 12.2 Philly, GB huge Net PPG even though sitting at 5-4-1 and 5-5. Put another way, compare them to other 6-4, 5-5 teams, and THEN look at SF... 3-7 with a much less negative net PPG than GB and Philly have in net positive PPG. Bizarre. No teams in the AFC seem as unusual in this metric, although DEN and SD are skewed oddly. Cincinnati 1 9 1 0.136 148 276 -128 -11.63636364 Kansas City 1 9 0 0.1 165 273 -108 -10.8 Oakland 2 8 0 0.2 128 235 -107 -10.7 Houston 3 7 0 0.3 236 287 -51 -5.1 Denver 6 4 0 0.6 248 271 -23 -2.3 Cleveland 4 6 0 0.4 201 221 -20 -2 Indianapolis 6 4 0 0.6 224 224 0 0 Buffalo 5 5 0 0.5 219 218 1 0.1 Jacksonville 4 6 0 0.4 212 210 2 0.2 Miami 6 4 0 0.6 209 197 12 1.2 New England 6 4 0 0.6 219 194 25 2.5 San Diego 4 6 0 0.4 254 229 25 2.5 Baltimore 6 4 0 0.6 222 180 42 4.2 N.Y. Jets 7 3 0 0.7 289 221 68 6.8 Pittsburgh 8 3 0 0.727 236 160 76 6.909090909 Tennessee 10 0 0 1 244 131 113 11.3 Interestingly, in examining some aspects of parity, we see 8 teams in the AFC currently playing average games with a FG margin of victory or less. in the NFC this count is 5. 12 teams in the AFC currently playing average games with a FG margin of victory or less. in the NFC this count is 12. What to make of this ? The NFC is a bit more topheavy balanced than the AFC while the both conferences have their share of midlevel parity and bottomlevel crap? Seems borne out now that the cumulative NFC-AFC point differential for the year is 73 and both have 50% of their teams above 50% Wins. St. Louis 2 8 0 0.2 144 317 -173 -17.3 Detroit 0 10 0 0 173 308 -135 -13.5 Cincinnati 1 9 1 0.136 148 276 -128 -11.63636364 Kansas City 1 9 0 0.1 165 273 -108 -10.8 Oakland 2 8 0 0.2 128 235 -107 -10.7 Seattle 2 8 0 0.2 190 257 -67 -6.7 Houston 3 7 0 0.3 236 287 -51 -5.1 San Francisco 3 7 0 0.3 230 275 -45 -4.5 Denver 6 4 0 0.6 248 271 -23 -2.3 Cleveland 4 6 0 0.4 201 221 -20 -2 Minnesota 5 5 0 0.5 223 234 -11 -1.1 Washington 6 4 0 0.6 181 182 -1 -0.1 Indianapolis 6 4 0 0.6 224 224 0 0 Buffalo 5 5 0 0.5 219 218 1 0.1 Dallas 6 4 0 0.6 230 229 1 0.1 Jacksonville 4 6 0 0.4 212 210 2 0.2 Chicago 5 5 0 0.5 240 231 9 0.9 Miami 6 4 0 0.6 209 197 12 1.2 New Orleans 5 5 0 0.5 266 249 17 1.7 New England 6 4 0 0.6 219 194 25 2.5 San Diego 4 6 0 0.4 254 229 25 2.5 Atlanta 6 4 0 0.6 231 198 33 3.3 Baltimore 6 4 0 0.6 222 180 42 4.2 Tampa Bay 7 3 0 0.7 219 160 59 5.9 Arizona 7 3 0 0.7 289 228 61 6.1 Green Bay 5 5 0 0.5 274 209 65 6.5 Carolina 8 2 0 0.8 222 155 67 6.7 N.Y. Jets 7 3 0 0.7 289 221 68 6.8 Pittsburgh 8 3 0 0.727 236 160 76 6.909090909 Philadelphia 5 4 1 0.55 264 193 71 7.1 Tennessee 10 0 0 1 244 131 113 11.3 N.Y. Giants 9 1 0 0.9 292 170 122 12.2 Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 07:57:11 AM good week to have the sunday ticket
ugh http://the506.com/nflmaps/2008-12-CBS.html http://the506.com/nflmaps/2008-12-FOX1.html http://the506.com/nflmaps/2008-12-FOX2.html terrible Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 09:22:22 AM lol @ joey porter interview.
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 09:48:42 AM LMAO @ Caliendo's The Don .
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:04:22 AM goddamit, Nantzyboy ruining the NYJ_TENN game
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:05:24 AM JAX fumbles 1st snap of game and it's run in for 6 by the Vikes
[sm_disgust] [sm_disgust] [sm_disgust] Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:06:12 AM da bears already threatening the rams in the RZ
pats already threatening the fins in the RZ Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:06:35 AM matt forte in for 6
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:07:19 AM JAX fumbles the kickoff return.
about to go down 14-0 to the chillies [sm_shock] [sm_shock] [sm_shock] [sm_shock] [sm_shock] Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:09:30 AM KC up 7-0 early on the bills
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:10:16 AM KC up 7-0 early on the bills kawika mitchell burnt toast on the play. Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:10:49 AM jets in the RZ, but looking at 2nd and goal from the 11.
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:11:48 AM jets go up 7-0 on a nice short pass to jones
pats settle for a FG attempt in the fins RZ Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:12:12 AM 3-0 pats
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:12:50 AM vikes up 14-0 90 seconds in
jason witten with a nice fingertip snag across midfield. Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:14:14 AM kevin walter sick TD catch and the texans up 7-0 early
[sm_shock] [sm_shock] [sm_shock] Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:15:44 AM bills marching right back against the chiefs
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:18:54 AM trent edwards worst pass i have ever seen
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:24:31 AM matt cassell tries to force one into moss and gets picked.
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:25:34 AM jamal lewis terrible fumble.
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:27:45 AM brett favre down stance on the weakside WR with an option play .
[sm_shock] Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:28:36 AM Lions up 14-0 earaly
:o :o :o :o Garrard feeds the seem to R Williams to make it only 14-7 Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:30:04 AM Concussion alert:
Bulger out, Trent Green in. Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:39:34 AM L Washington terrible fumble
wes welker just got blown up Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:47:58 AM vikes might want to cover MJD out of the backfield with someone besides that slow ass LB
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:48:44 AM TO scorches Nate Clements on a 75 yard TD
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: gleek on November 23, 2008, 10:50:33 AM Holy crap! My pick 'em selections look pretty hosed this week. :sad3:
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:52:56 AM after all the hype last year, it's obvious this year that it was an anomaly. fred taylor ====== DONE
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 10:54:28 AM nice drop, "marcedes"
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: gleek on November 23, 2008, 11:01:53 AM *fudge*! Matt Forte rips a long one for a TD. Good for the GH league. Bad for my other league. :sad3:
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: dystopia on November 23, 2008, 11:22:33 AM Good games this week. Looks like quite a few will go down to the wire.
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 11:23:44 AM nice S/T there, romeo brimely
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: dystopia on November 23, 2008, 11:24:15 AM cowboys fumble recovery! ;D
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 11:25:46 AM dammit scobee
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: gleek on November 23, 2008, 11:26:08 AM cowboys fumble recovery! ;D Fumble credited to the center? That rarely happens. Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: gleek on November 23, 2008, 11:27:04 AM dammit scobee >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( Missed a chipper. Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 11:28:19 AM haynesworth knocked out in TENN
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 11:30:10 AM balt s/t kick coverage unit FTL
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: dystopia on November 23, 2008, 11:43:47 AM fox halftime just said brandon jacobs not suiting up.
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: dystopia on November 23, 2008, 11:44:49 AM damn, I'm such a tool. Just saw a commercial for "Secret Millionaire" fox reality show, and I'm tempted to watch. [sm_anon]
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: gleek on November 23, 2008, 11:47:29 AM damn, I'm such a tool. Just saw a commercial for "Secret Millionaire" fox reality show, and I'm tempted to watch. [sm_anon] They need to bring back Joe (The) Millionaire show. Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: dystopia on November 23, 2008, 11:48:30 AM damn, I'm such a tool. Just saw a commercial for "Secret Millionaire" fox reality show, and I'm tempted to watch. [sm_anon] They need to bring back Joe (The) Millionaire show. lol I watched that too. :-[ Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: dystopia on November 23, 2008, 11:51:49 AM TO adds a
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 11:54:46 AM JAX with another horrible fumble
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 12:00:44 PM McChunk benched !
:o Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 12:02:27 PM gaydy quinn throws a game killing pick as the clowns were down to the texans 10 and threatening ot make it a game
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: dystopia on November 23, 2008, 12:02:33 PM Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 12:03:46 PM chris johnson horrible fumble
titans about to go 10-1 Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 12:10:18 PM gaydy quinn benched.
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 12:11:37 PM JETS absolutely spanking the titans
[sm_shock] [sm_shock] [sm_shock] Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 12:28:57 PM man, just can't get back into any of the pickem games im on the wrong end of.
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 12:33:46 PM there have got to be a lot of teams regretting passing on Bess right now.
SICK layout by ricky the pothead for a TD Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 12:38:05 PM Cleveland Clowns are terrible.
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 12:41:37 PM i give up.
I pick against the Clowns, they win. I pick for them, they lose. How the *fudge* did they beat Buffalo ? Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: gleek on November 23, 2008, 12:49:57 PM I have Orton, Pennington, and Cassell. I played Orton, and this week I'm actually trying to win. :sad3:
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 12:50:45 PM pennington horrible pick to lose the game.
good job Aske, starting the week with 4 misses in the pickem . Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: gleek on November 23, 2008, 12:55:22 PM Bills put up 54 on the Chefs! [sm_shock] [sm_shock] [sm_shock]
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 01:13:51 PM Bills put up 54 on the Chefs! [sm_shock] [sm_shock] [sm_shock] andsomehow lost to the Clowns who put up 6 on Houston. This year makes NO *goshdarn* SENSE!!!!!!!!! Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: gleek on November 23, 2008, 01:23:23 PM Bills put up 54 on the Chefs! [sm_shock] [sm_shock] [sm_shock] andsomehow lost to the Clowns who put up 6 on Houston. This year makes NO *goshdarn* SENSE!!!!!!!!! The Clowns beat the Cowgirls too. Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 01:25:09 PM Bills put up 54 on the Chefs! [sm_shock] [sm_shock] [sm_shock] andsomehow lost to the Clowns who put up 6 on Houston. This year makes NO *goshdarn* SENSE!!!!!!!!! The Clowns beat the Cowgirls too. don't you mean the NYG ? Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: gleek on November 23, 2008, 02:37:13 PM Bills put up 54 on the Chefs! [sm_shock] [sm_shock] [sm_shock] andsomehow lost to the Clowns who put up 6 on Houston. This year makes NO *goshdarn* SENSE!!!!!!!!! The Clowns beat the Cowgirls too. don't you mean the NYG ? Yeah, one of those NFC Least teams. Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: dystopia on November 23, 2008, 03:45:11 PM McFadden with 2 TDs today. Raiders cruising. [sm_shock]
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: gleek on November 23, 2008, 03:57:40 PM Donkeys play their worst games against the worst teams.
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: gleek on November 23, 2008, 04:00:17 PM Worst series of plays evar!
1-10-CAR20 (7:13) J.Delhomme sacked at CAR 16 for -4 yards (C.Davis). 2-14-CAR16 (6:33) PENALTY on CAR-J.Gross, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at CAR 16 - No Play. 2-19-CAR11 (6:12) PENALTY on CAR-D.Rosario, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at CAR 11 - No Play. 2-24-CAR6 (5:54) D.Williams up the middle to CAR 2 for -4 yards (K.Biermann, J.Babineaux). 3-28-CAR2 (5:08) J.Delhomme pass incomplete deep left to M.Muhammad. 4-28-CAR2 (5:03) J.Baker punts 57 yards to ATL 41, Center-J.Kyle. H.Douglas for 59 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 04:01:18 PM im just gonna flip coins next week
2 hours of analysis down the crapper Title: Re: [SPOILERS] NFL WEEK 12 Post by: Aske on November 23, 2008, 04:20:57 PM how the *fudge* did the ARIZ guy not recover that OS kick
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