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Golf => Golf Talk => Topic started by: Uisce Beatha on July 13, 2007, 10:08:16 PM



Title: Watson v. Nicklaus
Post by: Uisce Beatha on July 13, 2007, 10:08:16 PM
http://www.thegolfchannel.com/15100/23139/

Good read.  I'm a huge Tom Watson fan.  If you are too, I recommend 'Caddy for Life'.  It's the Bruce Edwards story and obviously is largely about Watson too.


Title: Re: Watson v. Nicklaus
Post by: spacey on July 13, 2007, 10:13:18 PM
Dyed in the wool Watson fan here too. Haven't read the book, but I'll put it on the list.


Title: Re: Watson v. Nicklaus
Post by: stroh on July 14, 2007, 05:22:21 AM
Another vote for Watson here.  I have never cared for Jack  [sm_hide]  I'll give him that he's all that, but to me, he has always comes off as pompous and arrogant.

As for the book on Bruce, I've heard it's a wonderful read.  Not sure if I will ever pick it up, not so much for my fear and loathing of literature, but the overall sadness of the story.  Great man taken way too soon.  We worked with a large number of ALS patients at The U.


Title: Re: Watson v. Nicklaus
Post by: Uisce Beatha on July 14, 2007, 08:34:05 AM
Another vote for Watson here.  I have never cared for Jack  [sm_hide]  I'll give him that he's all that, but to me, he has always comes off as pompous and arrogant.

Doesn't seem like Jack suffers fools (or disagreement) gladly.  I believe most of the greats are like that in some way with the possible exceptions of Arnie and Gary. 

Hagen, Hogan, Nicklaus, Norman, Faldo, Ballesteros, Woods and even Watson all have/had varying degrees of "edge".  I think perhaps that's part of BEING great.

I definitely see Jack the same as you.  I recently saw an interview with him about Francis Ouimet.  He kept calling him "Ouimet".  In the context of a television interview I think a deceased icon of the game deserves a Mister (as does Mister Nicklaus himself  ;)).  It's a tiny little thing but it kinda sealed the deal for me. 


Title: Re: Watson v. Nicklaus
Post by: Clive on July 14, 2007, 10:37:33 AM
I definitely see Jack the same as you.  I recently saw an interview with him about Francis Ouimet.  He kept calling him "Ouimet".  In the context of a television interview I think a deceased icon of the game deserves a Mister (as does Mister Nicklaus himself  ;)).  It's a tiny little thing but it kinda sealed the deal for me.
For me, adding the "Mister" always smacked of artifice.  Mister Hogan this, Mister Penick that -- we don't say Mister Hagen or Mister Vardon, we just say Hagen and Vardon.


Title: Re: Watson v. Nicklaus
Post by: spacey on July 14, 2007, 10:40:17 AM
And then there are these guys:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Mister01.jpg)


Title: Re: Watson v. Nicklaus
Post by: Uisce Beatha on July 14, 2007, 10:47:05 AM
I definitely see Jack the same as you.  I recently saw an interview with him about Francis Ouimet.  He kept calling him "Ouimet".  In the context of a television interview I think a deceased icon of the game deserves a Mister (as does Mister Nicklaus himself  ;)).  It's a tiny little thing but it kinda sealed the deal for me.

For me, adding the "Mister" always smacked of artifice.  Mister Hogan this, Mister Penick that -- we don't say Mister Hagen or Mister Vardon, we just say Hagen and Vardon.

That's cool.  Different strokes for different folks.  I feel that people who have earned their title/salutation should have it afforded them by others - especially if they're deceased or elderly.  For me, that's pretty much all the guys mentioned in this thread other than Tiger.  I probably wouldn't say Mister Woods as he's a decade younger than me.  No firm rule, just a personal standard that I guess I alone know.  In casual conversation (such as here) I might use surnames but if I met them I'd use the salutations.

I still say 'President Clinton' and 'President Bush' even though I think they're both gob*feces*es.   ;)