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Title: NCAA=Fascists
Post by: Walfredo on July 12, 2007, 01:28:03 PM
OU totally got jobbed by those *bunghole*s. http://www.kfor.com/Global/story.asp?S=6776753&nav=menu99_4

As soon as Stoops confirmed the infractions he kicked Bomar and Quinn off the team.  And we self imposed recruiting sanctions allowing only one coach to visit.  So what does the NCAA do?  The say ok pretend the 8 victories in 2005 didn't exist but those losses did WTF?  So Bomar helped us win but not lose.  Besides I doubt many coaches would kick their star QB off the team before the NCAA tells them to do so. 

So in adding to the insult they take away two scholarships the next two years will continuing the sanctions we self-imposed.  Oh yeah they also said the Basketball teams infractions added to the result.  WTF so Kelvin Sampson is now *goshdarn* us over even more well after he left.  What did the football mistakes have to do with the basketball team?  They are a total joke.  I bet Notre Dame wouldn't get this kind of treatment. 

Oh well Boomer Sooner.


Title: Re: NCAA=Fascists
Post by: Uisce Beatha on July 12, 2007, 01:29:13 PM
Yeah but Notre Dame is a big-time program.  Like Texas and Oregon.   [sm_devil]


Title: Re: NCAA=Fascists
Post by: Aske on July 12, 2007, 02:41:29 PM
hopefully it's just a stepping stone so they can crush usuck into the realm of  smu for the reggie bush payola.


Title: Re: NCAA=Fascists
Post by: birdymaker on July 12, 2007, 03:18:25 PM
file this under, "cheaters = losers"  ;)


Title: Re: NCAA=Fascists
Post by: Walfredo on July 12, 2007, 03:23:37 PM
hopefully it's just a stepping stone so they can crush usuck into the realm of  smu for the reggie bush payola.

Hope so. 

OU favors = $17,000

Just Reggie's = Hundreds of thousands

I guess that National Championship game will have never existed too.   ;D



Title: Re: NCAA=Fascists
Post by: Fuzzy on July 12, 2007, 03:46:56 PM
hopefully it's just a stepping stone so they can crush usuck into the realm of  smu for the reggie bush payola.



I guess that National Championship game will have never existed too.   ;D




University of MN had to take down their Big 10 Basketball Championship and Final Four banners from the '97-'98 season. Ranked in the top 3 most of the season.........and it magically has disappeared from the record.

Funny, the NCAA frowned on kids not going to class and having tutors write papers and such.


Title: Re: NCAA=Fascists
Post by: hobbit on July 12, 2007, 04:37:18 PM
I don't know all the details, but this caught my eye:

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The impermissible benefits totaled approximately $17,000 in unearned wages and led to the committee finding that the institution failed to monitor the employment of football student-athletes.

Since when is it the responsibility of the university to monitor where/when/how its students work??  I believe its also illegal for an employer to share employment information to any outside agency as well, so what was the university supposed to be monitoring anyway??  Is the NCAA trying to usurp Federal Law?


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Title: Re: NCAA=Fascists
Post by: gleek on July 12, 2007, 07:05:44 PM
Yeah but Notre Dame is a big-time program.  Like Texas and Oregon.   [sm_devil]

Speaking of Oregon, their final 2005 record is now 11-1 with a victory in the Holiday Bowl. LOL


Title: Re: NCAA=Fascists
Post by: Aske on July 12, 2007, 07:35:28 PM
Yeah but Notre Dame is a big-time program.  Like Texas and Oregon.   [sm_devil]

Speaking of Oregon, their final 2005 record is now 11-1 with a victory in the Holiday Bowl. LOL

actually, the holiday bowl doesn't count.


Title: Re: NCAA=Fascists
Post by: gleek on July 12, 2007, 07:41:46 PM
Yeah but Notre Dame is a big-time program.  Like Texas and Oregon.   [sm_devil]

Speaking of Oregon, their final 2005 record is now 11-1 with a victory in the Holiday Bowl. LOL

actually, the holiday bowl doesn't count.


According to the story, OU has to forfeit the Holiday Bowl win too.


Title: Re: NCAA=Fascists
Post by: Walfredo on July 12, 2007, 07:58:08 PM
I heard an Oregon official say they weren't going to change their record.  But no mention of last years jobbing so I guess they are keeping that one. 


Title: Re: NCAA=Fascists
Post by: stegerman on July 12, 2007, 08:47:18 PM
And they have to forfiet the Fiesta BOwl...er..wait..they lost..


Their punishment was weak at best. Who cares if they forfiet games, it doesn't make any difference. Two scholarships? Seriously, like that is going to impact them at all...

No personal offense Walfredo, but get over it...Stoops punished them way more than the NCAA.


Title: Re: NCAA=Fascists
Post by: Aske on July 12, 2007, 09:06:13 PM
Yeah but Notre Dame is a big-time program.  Like Texas and Oregon.   [sm_devil]

Speaking of Oregon, their final 2005 record is now 11-1 with a victory in the Holiday Bowl. LOL

actually, the holiday bowl doesn't count.


According to the story, OU has to forfeit the Holiday Bowl win too.


but if OU forfeits all their games, the  they weren't eligible to compete in the bowl, hence Oregon didn't play the correct team.  a retroactive forfeit should only count towards 'mandatory' games.



Title: Re: NCAA=Fascists
Post by: gleek on July 12, 2007, 09:22:45 PM
Yeah but Notre Dame is a big-time program.  Like Texas and Oregon.   [sm_devil]

Speaking of Oregon, their final 2005 record is now 11-1 with a victory in the Holiday Bowl. LOL

actually, the holiday bowl doesn't count.


According to the story, OU has to forfeit the Holiday Bowl win too.


but if OU forfeits all their games, the  they weren't eligible to compete in the bowl, hence Oregon didn't play the correct team.  a retroactive forfeit should only count towards 'mandatory' games.

If Oregon shows up on the field of play at the designated time and the opposing team doesn't show up, Oregon wins by forfeit.


Title: Re: NCAA=Fascists
Post by: Aske on July 12, 2007, 09:25:46 PM
LOL.  i dunno.  i read baylor is going to 'sue' to get their bowl payout since the forfeit would make them retroactively bowl eligible.


Title: Re: NCAA=Fascists
Post by: gleek on July 12, 2007, 09:29:14 PM
LOL.  i dunno.  i read baylor is going to 'sue' to get their bowl payout since the forfeit would make them retroactively bowl eligible.

Man, this thing's going to open up a huge can of worms.


Title: Re: NCAA=Fascists
Post by: Walfredo on July 13, 2007, 09:49:01 AM
And they have to forfiet the Fiesta BOwl...er..wait..they lost..


Their punishment was weak at best. Who cares if they forfiet games, it doesn't make any difference. Two scholarships? Seriously, like that is going to impact them at all...

No personal offense Walfredo, but get over it...Stoops punished them way more than the NCAA.
You're right Steg the scholarships won't mean much.  We normally only have 81 total and this means we can't have more than 83 total so no big deal really.  I just don't see how you can only take away the wins.  I get that they were technically illegible to play but I say forfeit the whole season.  Also, saying the basketball stuff contributed is BS.  I realize we self-imposed harsher sanctions and got off fairly easy but it still sucks.