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Title: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: stroh on May 03, 2007, 05:16:36 PM
Pedestrians do not have the right-of-way!!!


Damn it!  There are certain circumstances where at an intersection, crosswalk, or conditions mandate that motorized vehicles yield first to pedestrians.........but there is not a blanket statement, and or *fudge*in' law that states "Pedestrians have the right-of-way"!!!  I'm sick of it!  I'm sick of hearing that phrase!

I'm tired of every Joe *8==>* that wants to cross the road in front of me, or every suburbanite family out for a spring bike ride, thinks I need to come to a complete stop to let their cavalcade cross a thoroughfare with traffic buzzing about!!!

All at the expense of being  "flipped off" , or yelled at!  Learn the *fudge*in' rules yourself!

And while I'm at it.........If I'm turning right onto a 2 lane road, and you're coming at me, and turning left onto the same 2 lane road..........guess what *8==>*head???????  I have the right-of-way!!!!!!  Don't give me a dirty ass look, because you think I'm "sneaking in", and cutting you the *fudge* off!  You're the one who is wrong!


*fudge*!!  Seacrest out!


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: Fuzzy on May 03, 2007, 05:21:24 PM
So, did you hit Joe *8==>* or just narrowly miss him?  [sm_devil]


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on May 03, 2007, 06:37:24 PM
I'm a pedestrian quite a bit during the summer.  You all are quite aware that I don't drive; however, that's not to say that I haven't focused on the driving rules for when the day comes.  When it comes to driving you really have to be offensive and defensive at the same time.  And I think that having that same mindset should be taken on by pedestrians as well.  You are right, far too often pedestrians take for granted the "right-of-way" so much that they think they have it during situations that they don't.  At the same time, drivers aren't always paying attention at the times they should be.  I'd rather give up that "right-of-way" than to be hit.  People should also remember that even if they have the "right-of-way" to be careful because a car will do more damage to you than you could do to it.


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: Clive on May 03, 2007, 06:59:45 PM
When it comes to driving you really have to be offensive and defensive at the same time.
Our man Stroh is halfway home.


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: Clive on May 03, 2007, 07:02:00 PM
And while I'm at it:

CLICKETY-CLICK (http://ros.leg.mn/bin/getpub.php?type=s&num=169.06&year=2006)


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on May 03, 2007, 07:02:03 PM
When it comes to driving you really have to be offensive and defensive at the same time.
Our man Stroh is halfway home.

[sm_scratch]


He passed the defensive test but not the offensive?


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on May 03, 2007, 07:07:41 PM
And while I'm at it:

CLICKETY-CLICK (http://ros.leg.mn/bin/getpub.php?type=s&num=169.06&year=2006)

pwn@ge

Sorry, stroh.


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: stroh on May 03, 2007, 07:11:29 PM
And while I'm at it:

CLICKETY-CLICK (http://ros.leg.mn/bin/getpub.php?type=s&num=169.06&year=2006)

 [sm_dontknow]  I read it.........


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on May 03, 2007, 07:14:26 PM
And while I'm at it:

CLICKETY-CLICK (http://ros.leg.mn/bin/getpub.php?type=s&num=169.06&year=2006)

 [sm_dontknow]  I read it.........

Search "right-of-way".  Hint: results will be under Subdivision 5: Traffic-control signal


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: Torpedo on May 03, 2007, 07:15:03 PM
He passed the defensive test but not the offensive?

That's not all bad, the Vikes need a dime back. ;D


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: stroh on May 03, 2007, 07:16:58 PM
And while I'm at it:

CLICKETY-CLICK (http://ros.leg.mn/bin/getpub.php?type=s&num=169.06&year=2006)

 [sm_dontknow]  I read it.........



Search "right-of-way".  Hint: results will be under Subdivision 5: Traffic-control signal
I still don't get it.........and or the point.


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on May 03, 2007, 07:18:41 PM
And while I'm at it:

CLICKETY-CLICK (http://ros.leg.mn/bin/getpub.php?type=s&num=169.06&year=2006)

 [sm_dontknow]  I read it.........



Search "right-of-way".  Hint: results will be under Subdivision 5: Traffic-control signal
I still don't get it.........and or the point.

Minnesota law does state that pedestrians have the "right-of-way".


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: stroh on May 03, 2007, 07:21:44 PM

Minnesota law does state that pedestrians have the "right-of-way".


Quote
..........and to pedestrians lawfully


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on May 03, 2007, 07:24:59 PM

Minnesota law does state that pedestrians have the "right-of-way".
Quote
..........and to pedestrians lawfully

Yes, but you went the opposite direction of saying that they "don not have the right-of-way".  You went on to somewhat clarify; however, our lawyer decided to correct your initial statement.


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on May 03, 2007, 07:28:07 PM
So what happened, stroh?


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: Torpedo on May 03, 2007, 07:28:34 PM
[sm_happy1] Anybody want some with me? ;D


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: stroh on May 03, 2007, 07:34:48 PM

Minnesota law does state that pedestrians have the "right-of-way".
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..........and to pedestrians lawfully

Yes, but you went the opposite direction of saying that they "don not have the right-of-way".  You went on to somewhat clarify; however, our lawyer decided to correct your initial statement.

I did not retract my initial statement(post). My rant was the overwhelming thought/mentality of the pedestrians, they, "empirically" have the right of way.  I think our resident barrister was pointing out (I'm assuming) on my latter rant.(I was incorrect)  I, having read the statute several times(thanks to you  ;) ;D) can't find his intent.


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: Torpedo on May 03, 2007, 07:37:16 PM
I, having read the statute several times(thanks to you  ;) ;D) can't find his intent.

Maybe his intent was for you to try to find his intent when he really didn't have an intent. [sm_scratch] ;D


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on May 03, 2007, 07:46:00 PM

Minnesota law does state that pedestrians have the "right-of-way".
Quote
..........and to pedestrians lawfully

Yes, but you went the opposite direction of saying that they "don not have the right-of-way".  You went on to somewhat clarify; however, our lawyer decided to correct your initial statement.

I did not retract my initial statement(post). My rant was the overwhelming thought/mentality of the pedestrians, they, "empirically" have the right of way.  I think our resident barrister was pointing out (I'm assuming) on my latter rant.(I was incorrect)  I, having read the statute several times(thanks to you  ;) ;D) can't find his intent.

I still think that the point was that there are times they have the right of way.  Of course, it could also have to do with something in the latter part of your post now that I think about it.  Well, whichever he was pointing out, he has gotten you to read Min law several times. :D  And you're welcome. :D


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on May 03, 2007, 07:48:28 PM
You still haven't said what happened. lol

...or did you?


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: Clive on May 03, 2007, 07:55:49 PM
Sorry, I was just giving you the statute, which details those times when the pedestrian DOES have right-of-way as well as those times when he DOES NOT.


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on May 03, 2007, 07:56:52 PM
Sorry, I was just giving you the statute, which details those times when the pedestrian DOES have right-of-way as well as those times when he DOES NOT.

And he read them several times. ;D

What's to be sorry about?  The above discussion was quite fun. :D


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: stroh on May 03, 2007, 07:59:18 PM

I still think that the point was that there are times they have the right of way.  Of

Did you actually read my OP?  ::)



(Nothing really happened.  Sort of.  I'll put together a "bit map" of tonight, to better explain.  I'm just tired of trying to drive, and constantly running into these idots(no pun intended)  who have heard that phrase, and think they can run out into traffic whenever they want because.............well............blah, blah blah blah!)

Makes me crazy.


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on May 03, 2007, 08:07:30 PM

I still think that the point was that there are times they have the right of way.  Of

Did you actually read my OP?  ::)



(Nothing really happened.  Sort of.  I'll put together a "bit map" of tonight, to better explain.  I'm just tired of trying to drive, and constantly running into these idots(no pun intended)  who have heard that phrase, and think they can run out into traffic whenever they want because.............well............blah, blah blah blah!)

Makes me crazy.

Yep, I did.  :D  The whole rant.  Every word, except for the ones that are filtered out.  That's why I said in one of my posts that you went on to somewhat clarify that you don't mean that they never have the right-of-way, it's just that there are times that they don't have that legal right. 

And don't worry, I'm not one of those "idots" that walk/bike like everyone should kneel before them.  So you won't have to worry about me pulling out in front of you if you ever see me biking somewhere. ;D


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: Aske on May 03, 2007, 08:43:11 PM
stroh 1, pedestrian 0


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: stroh on May 03, 2007, 08:45:00 PM
Scenario A:

I'm coming home tonight, and make the turn around the 4th green......I see this kid walking toward the street.  It's obvious, he hit his ball over the green, and through the street.  I start to veer to the left, and he never loses stride, headed across the road..I slow down('cause I know he won't), and slam on my brakes, and swerve way left......He raises his club and mouths some words, like it's my fault for not allowing him free pass across the street.........like I almost hit him?  I was an ass for not stopping to let him cross the street?  WTF?



Scenario B: 

Later tonight.  We took Maddie to the park.  Coming home, I signal, slow down, and veer right on the residential street (see graphic)  And I'm talkin about 15 MPH at the most........Karen says  "Hun, they were yelling at you for not letting those people cross."  WTF??!!!  The guy in the truck was at a stop sign!  I was exiting a "Highway"!  (It's St. Francis.  What can I say?  I don't make the rules, I just survive them) 

I can see them being pissed if the truck went, but I can't stop for them..........


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: Aske on May 03, 2007, 08:47:18 PM
nuke it from orbit.  it's the only way to be safe


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on May 03, 2007, 08:59:32 PM
Ouch, twice in one night.  Once is more than plenty. 

Sorry for giving you a hard time about your rant.  It's dangerous when people don't follow the traffic laws.  And it sure would feel horrible to hit someone even when you are the one following the rules. 

On the other hand, I've almost been hit by drivers that aren't paying attention.  Basically, I forgo the "right-of-way" unless the driver indicates that they will let me pass because I don't want to be hit.  I've been in enough accidents in a car and enough near collisions both in a car and on my bike (I can assure you none were my fault) that I don't want to even come close to either happening again. 


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: MFAWG on May 03, 2007, 11:05:54 PM
Quote
169.06 SIGNS, SIGNALS, MARKINGS.

Blah, blah, blah, blah:

Quote
Subd. 5. Traffic-control signal. (a) Whenever traffic is controlled by traffic-control signals
exhibiting different colored lights, or colored lighted arrows, successively one at a time or in
combination, only the colors Green, Red, and Yellow shall be used, except for special pedestrian
signals carrying a word or legend. The traffic-control signal lights or colored lighted arrows
indicate and apply to drivers of vehicles and pedestrians
[/i] as follows:

Blah, blah, blah, explain what green-yellow-red means, blah, blah, blah, blah:

 
Quote
Subd. 6. Pedestrian control signal. (a) Whenever special pedestrian-control signals
exhibiting the words "Walk" or "Don't Walk" or symbols of a "walking person" or "upraised
hand" are in place, the signals or symbols indicate as follows:

(1) A steady "Walk" signal or the symbol of a "walking person" indicates that a pedestrian
facing either of these signals may proceed across the roadway in the direction of the signal,
possibly in conflict with turning vehicles. Every driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way to
such pedestrian except that the pedestrian shall yield the right-of-way to vehicles lawfully within
the intersection at the time that either signal indication is first shown.

blah, blah, blah etcetera, etcetera, so on and so forth, etcetera.



I wrote so much blah, blah, blah that I forgot WTF my   :airquotes: point :airquotes: is.... [sm_scratch] [sm_scratch]



Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: Seamus on May 04, 2007, 08:16:33 AM
Two things.

#1 - Pedestrians - Kill them all, let Gawd sort them out.

#2 - Death Race 2000 - Hit and run is no longer a felony. It's the national sport.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Race_2000

Teenagers-BIG POINTS (http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/gvandel454/TV%20and%20Movie%20Stuff/CarradineFrank.jpg)


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: Aske on May 04, 2007, 10:15:46 AM
^  ;D


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: TFT on May 04, 2007, 10:52:06 AM
Bastards, all of them.



Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on May 04, 2007, 01:17:45 PM

I wrote so much blah, blah, blah that I forgot *** my   :airquotes: point :airquotes: is.... [sm_scratch] [sm_scratch]


rofl! [sm_rolling]


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on May 04, 2007, 01:20:44 PM
Two things.

#1 - Pedestrians - Kill them all, let Gawd sort them out.


Kill all pedestrians?  Guess that means me, too, huh?  And Kev....


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: Jules on May 04, 2007, 02:10:07 PM
Stroh, have you got a bull-bar on the front of your 4-wheel drive!!!!!!
If so, you don't have to worry about a thing...............there will be no damage to your car, if you acccidently run a pedestrian over!!!!! ;D ;D


Title: Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
Post by: Torpedo on May 04, 2007, 02:56:46 PM

I wrote so much blah, blah, blah that I forgot *** my   :airquotes: point :airquotes: is.... [sm_scratch] [sm_scratch]


rofl! [sm_rolling]

Ha. ;D