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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_%28TV_series%29

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I am charged!!

Oh right.... Heroes.. nevermind I expect we'll get this series down here in about 2 years from now. Heck I'm watching Boston Legal from 2004, and they aren't re-runs. [sm_devil]

great show.  denny crane.

 :o :o Really?  I had no idea.  I figured to day with bradband, satalite, etc......    Ayy-Thang was instant global.

FWIW, I just "found out" about B.L.  I only have a few episodes under my belt. ;D

better get caught up
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Speaking of B.L. when are they supposed to be back with new episodes? (These mid season hiatuses the networks like to pull piss me off.)

sunday after DH.

Is it a permanent move to Sunday? (The arguments against DVR continue to weaken.)

You'd expect with all this new fangled teknology, we'd get most things not too long after they air over there. We only have three 'Commercial - Free to Air' stations and two that are basically 'Non Commercial', these are heavily supported by the Government (without the Fascist Propaganda).

The programming on the Commercial Networks mostly consists of reality TV, Big Brother, Australian Idol, Biggest Loser, and other programs of that ilk.  Anything else that is remotely good generally screens later in the evening after the main demographic has gone to bed.

The one program that I'm digging right now is 'Criminal Minds' ;)

 [sm_shock] [sm_shock]  I had no Idea, glad I called. ;)

Yeppers.  I've been using the pc (mostly for Feckin' Spongebob [sm_cussing]........ :) ;D I had that prick set on "record series", I had S.B. coming out of the rafters, some 39 Gawt Tamm hours 'til I got it shut off)

Other than that, I'm gettin real close to the actual DVR.

criminal minds is a great show indeed

combined with csiny  its the best  2 hour block on tv

dh+bl used to be,  and dh+b-s  is getting close now that the writing on dh is getting good again.

i doubt it,  although bl  was doing good on that slot,   grey's anatomy just did a hell of a lot better.
it might make sense to move b+s  to  a different night though,  i think it can carry itself  now

I'm really looking forward to Heroes tonight.  The preview from last week made it look like several of the heroes are finally going to meet in this episode. :D

im looking forward to it as well

won't watch it till after WWE MNR  though
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So, I should post real time spoilers? ;)

if you want,  i can resist
 8)

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So, what dictates your watch/record priority?

mainly I record heroes anyways, because occasionally I miss something, want to watch it again to clarify, etc

not to mention, watching RAW live is just a tradition i can't break
 8)

i still need a dvd of him roasting shatner.
 8)

So I'm guessing the world saving will come incrementally. Good episode though.  ;D

Fuggin' sucked!

I guess we'll save the world later............

"All my questions will be answered next week............. ::) ::)"





EDIT:  YMMV   ;D

saving the world, one step at a time.

a bit predictable on the petrelli not dying,  a bit unpredictable on the 'helper' having the psychic powers to stone  sylar so easily.

 :o


and sylar is apparently quite the nerd.
 :o

I'm wondering if petrelli isn't able to sap sylar's powers too.

probably.  I still haven't quite figured out the dad.  and who/what the chic is

You could ask Hiro to nip back in time and film it for you.

He would do it, for his dad...

so any ideas?

bomb=radioactive man (angry, vengeful, guilty, death-wish, etc) magnified by sylar's telekinetic powers?

It promised a lot from the episode next week.

Fingers crossed on it paying up.

I reckon the cheerleader somehow had something to do with the bomb blast, maybe that explosion would have destroyed all of the world. 

If she stays saved, the world should be OK.

Maybe when Sylar takes enough heads he implodes/explodes in the first time line.

I'm off to ask Ramirez what would happen.

 :)

Last night's episode is taking a little bit of a beating in the entertainment columns for not really nicely wrapping up anything. Did anyone here feel gypped by it?

I grew up reading comic books and I recognize the "smaller story arc inside a larger story arc inside a much larger alternate reality" type style, so if I keep that in mind when watching the show, I don't expect any neat and tidy endings. At least you don't have to wait a whole month for the next "issue." I remember reading stories in comics that took 20 issues to wrap anything up, that's almost two years of the same story.

My understanding is that the writers/producers have already mapped out where they want the show to go over the next 5 years. Will enough people stay interested in the show for that to happen or are viewers going to start dropping off when they get tired of the fact that the story, like life, just keeps going?

Laura was a Lost addict for a couple of seasons, but now she's sorta meh about the whole show because it's moving too slowly and it's creating more questions than answers. She's loving Heroes right now, but I wonder how long she'll stay interested.

Thoughts?

I enjoyed last night's episode.  The only problem I had was with the commercials/previews that suggested this was the episode you were waiting for, the one that answered many of your questions.  Sure, we saw the cheerleader get saved, but they didn't explain what that had to do with saving the world.

I actually expect it to take much of this season to wrap up this story arc, there are just too many things going on right now to be wrapped up even in a couple of episodes.  I expect the season climax happens in Manhattan as has been foretold.

I was annoyed at the Hiro/waitress storyline.  That seemed like an unnecessary tangent at this point given all the other things already going on.

One thing that I hope Heroes has over other series' like X-files or Lost is that they don't need to drag this opening story out.  They could devote the first season to showing how everyone discovers their powers and such, and the next season could be devoted to some other long-running story (like dealing with super-villains that start popping up, or something like that).

I'm a total LOST junkie, and I'm staying true.  I'm pissed about this "hiatus", but I'll hang.

I heard a radio interview, with one of the writers (he's from Minnesota)  He says the whole "concept" is established.  It's simply a matter of how much/long to elaborate.  e.g.  The Heny Gale plot was originally 1 show, but it "took" so well, they ran with it and played it over 5-6 shows.  I like the concept.  He says all all the emails he has recieved, no one has "pegged" it yet.

I really felt slighted on Heroes.  I felt, last night, I was sold a bill of goods, and in return got the bait and switch.............'cause apparently, next week.........all my questions will be answered. >:( ::)

It is a serial, I get that.  They still haven't quite wrapped up the Luke and Laura thing either,(25+ years) but come on.

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Lost has totally lost me...

that's the inside joke

i thought it was outside

  :o

 ;D

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Save this thread, save the world. ::)

Then the world is doooooooooooooooooooomed.

Dooooooooooooooooooooomed I tell ya.

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Weird, I just saw a commercial for Rocky Balboa, and it looks like Milo Ventimiglia (Peter Petrelli) plays Rocky Balboa, Jr.  I did a double-take.

That movie looks bad..real bad.

yup

i am the laaww yooooooooooo whaaaaattttttt

I tell ya what, they better pick their sh*t up this week!  They got roasted all over, on-line, and are gonna loose fans quick.  I'll give them this monday.

Patience grasshopper. Ignore the hype designed to stir excitement and just enjoy the story as it unfolds.

Thank you Master.  I am still quick to show emotion.

I hope for their sake, however;  I do not have to demonstrated the "Squating Mantis" position on the TV Guide.

I'm with you, spaceage, I'd rather see a good story than have something all wrapped up neatly in 1 hour blocks.

However, I think that they did drop the ball a bit last week.  Something was off -- saving the cheerleader should have been exciting and somehow momentous, and it wasn't.  I'm considering it an off-week in an otherwise great series.

I got 3 years invested in LOST, so my patience is running thin.  I take it out on other networks new programming. ;D

I was disappointed last week as well. I was hoping because they billed it as an 'event' it would be two hours. I do think they are going to start losing people if they don't start giving a bit more information to hint at possible answers. Right now it seems difficut to even speculate.

That said, I'm in it for the long haul.

I think the biggest problem was building so much hype around the phrase "save the cheerleader, save the world." Had they not repeated it ad nauseum at every commercial break for two weeks and built up such expectation over the "event," it wouldn't have been such a let down. Ignoring that saving the cheerleader was relatively anticlimactic (only because of the hype) I believe last week's episode was pretty strong.

Oh, ditto!  Don't get me wrong.  I'm just responded to the fact, that the "lied" in their promos.  I didn't expect the story to be solved/over last week.

tonight we should get a lot of answers...

 :D

of course, i'll be dvring heroes and watching WWE RAW  in  real time...

since we intended to be there in person, but missed out on tix.

Question.  Did Peter "Lift" his brother up?  Or did he first learn he could fly through some sort of "fight or flight" emotion?  And that's why he feels guilty about what happened, 'cause whether he wanted to or not, he kinda cut-n-run.

Or if it was Peter, what power, and whose?

yup
nathan flies as an instinct to avoid death/injury in the collision,  hence the guilt...

peter has the whole dream about it, and is a power mimic/adsorber, so it would be interesting who he was around at that time

the interesting ? is which hero will die before the 'winter vacation' ?

I'm thinking it's going to be either the cop or Nikki/Jessica.

Isaac OD's after the dad makes him paint again.

Weird.  I saw that "lifting" motion by Peter while he was dreaming, too, and thought it meant he was lifting his brother out of harms way somehow, but that doesn't jive with what we know of his powers.  It was a really strange hand movement, so I thought it meant something.  Nathan didn't really look like he was in control as he went straight up out of the car. [sm_dontknow]

I'm guessing it'll be DL since he doesn't always show up in the group promo pictures.

We already know that Jessica is hunting down Nikki's husband, though I'd like to see Nikki learn to control Jessica a bit better.

I'm actually a little disappointed that Jessica is a dead person -- that makes Nikki more possessed than a hero.

I think the cop is more likely to go than Nikki's husband, though.

Hmm, in the commercials, they show a handgun going off when the voiceover says "a hero will fall.." or something like that.  That could be anyone.

OK, here's my updated theory:
Jessica kills DL, but somehow his spirit jumps over into the same body as Jessica and Niki.(http://www.golfhos.com/forum/Smileys/other/3some.gif)
(they can convey this by having Niki walk between two facing mirrors and show Jess and DL in alternating reflections infinitely)

Another solid episode. The "fallen hero" was a bit of a surprise. Looks like Nikki's love for Micah is how she will control Jessica. Big twist with the Haitian, also looks like cheerleader's daddy isn't squarely in the good guy column. January 22nd? WTF?!?

bennet under the control of someone (bu$hco? , linderman)- check
haitian a mole, or a double-crosser, or something- super power to neutralize others powers?
peter petrelli the bomb?-  must be near the radioactive man, or sylar  at some point
eden- courageous, but .... she seemed the most powerful of all..
sylar- how did they all underestimate his strength? that was insane!  ... can he eat her dead brain to gain her power?
mohindar- obviously with eden dead and not revealing the truth to him, he's gonna go seek it out now...
isaac drawing without the dragon, as expected
hiro- seeming less useful by the week, but they had given him lots of face time,  maybe its for the best... a big surprise later
niki/jessica- dl-micah...  where is this storyline going?

Remeber when hiro showed up to Peter in the subway, all ninja warrior meets Mad Max. That will be a cool transformation.

Yep.  'cause did you hear him last night?  "I gotta find that sword".

Best and worst bits of last night.

just 7 weeks or so
 :o

I wondered, when Bennet told Sylar his powers wouldn't work in the cell, if somehow the Haitian was blocking them or if there was some other external forces preventing his powers from working. It occurred to me that the reason they worked when Eden went in might be because the Haitian wasn't there. Eden was stupid. Sylar seems too powerful for any single Hero to take on at once.

I'm with you on the Peter Petrelli is the bomb by his proximity to radioactive man,  I'm guessing Sylar has something to do with it as well.

Does Matt forgive his wife or does he get it on with the FBI agent?

Also, at this point I'm wondering what Clair's role actually is since it seems she's mostly been a red herring and/or a plot device for her father's character development.

I wondered about that cell, too, and why it could hold Sylar.  It couldn't have been solely dependent on the Haitian because he couldn't stay there all the time, he's got to help out the cheerleader's dad on tasks, like at the police station or wiping people's minds.

For a second, I thought maybe Sylar didn't receive full telekinesis from the first person he killed, but more of a mastery over metal (like Magneto), and the cell was made of plastic, and that power was only usable later when Eden brought in the metal gun, which he manipulated to break the glass.  But looking at it closer, that probably wasn't it since Bennet's glasses probably have metal screws in them and the door for the food tray sounded metallic.

The more disturbing theory is that Sylar could have broken out of the cell at any time (when the Haitian wasn't there), but was waiting for Eden in order to steal her powers.

Random things I may have imagined:
- What caused Peter Petrelli to develop the cough and later collapse?  It was in the police station, but was it the cop, Bennet, or the Haitian that triggered it?  Maybe Peter, as a power mimicker/absorber didn't react well to the Haitian, a power negator?

- in the dream/vision at the end, was Nathan about to grab the exploding Peter and fly him out of the city?

- I'm thinking that Niki/Jessica is a red herring.  A lot of her story has been explained and there doesn't seem to be a lot of interaction between her storyline and the main story arc.  I can't even remember if she shows up in the Manhattan vision at the end, where everyone else converges.  During her scenes in last night's episode, I kept hoping they would cut away from the Niki story to focus on everyone else.

My assumption was much simpler: he died when he fell, Claire's healing powers healed him, but since healing is her power and not his it didn't "take." He seemed to look much better when she was in the cell with him. Perhaps without an ongoing healing power, his body thinks it should be dead? [Actually, now that I read it, I don't know that my theory is any simpler than yours. lol]

 ;D

Sylar breaking out - I thought when Edin began to impose her thought control on him, that opened a gateway for him to use his powers. There was something that prevented the powers from inside the cell projecting outward. Remember when the dad said, "We are going to take you apart peice by piece." I took that to mean they could project in but he couldn't project out. Maybe they didn't understand that by doing that, Sylar was able to use his powers.

Peter - I thought maybe the power mimcing is killing him like in "The Dead Zone" or "The Green Mile". Although it didn't seem to affect him the other times, so it may have something to do with the healing power, like maybe she (Claire) wasn't around long enough to heal all the internal bleeding/injuries.

(spoilers)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godsend_%28Heroes%29

 [sm_shock]  Thanks for the warning.
I think I'll enjoy the show more if I'm surprised.

It don't say nothin' [sm_dontknow]

I was on the same line, just not as deep.  I  was thinkin' he wasn't totally healed, because he wasn't with her long enough, and still has some broken ribs or something.