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Title: Football Question
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on October 28, 2007, 12:11:25 PM
I thought that celebrations are to be ruled as 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct.  So, if someone spikes the ball after a td, there should be a penalty.   However, I'm not seeing that being called much.  So, is there an exception clause, or is it just not being enforced, or am I understanding it wrong??


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: gleek on October 28, 2007, 12:36:37 PM
I thought that celebrations are to be ruled as 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct.  So, if someone spikes the ball after a td, there should be a penalty.   However, I'm not seeing that being called much.  So, is there an exception clause, or is it just not being enforced, or am I understanding it wrong??

The flag is thrown for "excessive" or "prolonged" celebration. Spontaneous display of excitement, like spiking a ball, is OK (unless the spike is directed at a player of the opposing team). Organized group celebration or anything choreographed using foreign objects/props is subject to the penalty. Now, you also cannot celebrate while on the ground. So no more break dancing.


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on October 28, 2007, 01:04:05 PM
Ahhhhhhhh, okay.  Thanks!

I thought this year they were also going to be coming down harder on spiking celebrations in general.  Was that never made official?


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: birdymaker on October 28, 2007, 01:14:21 PM
Ahhhhhhhh, okay.  Thanks!

I thought this year they were also going to be coming down harder on spiking celebrations in general.  Was that never made official?

umm, no. this aint college. ;D


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on October 28, 2007, 01:17:13 PM
Ahhhhhhhh, okay.  Thanks!

I thought this year they were also going to be coming down harder on spiking celebrations in general.  Was that never made official?

umm, no. this aint college. ;D

Thanks! There is a reason I don't like women's & college sports as much...


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: Teed on October 28, 2007, 01:43:31 PM
Actually, you're not supposed to use the football as a prop during your celebration (TO using the ball to resemble a video camera) .  With that being said, spiking the football should be a penalty.


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on October 28, 2007, 02:04:38 PM
Okay, that make sense to why I was thinking spiking was not okay.

Now the problem, it's not being enforced much (at least in the games I watch)....


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: Fuzzy on October 28, 2007, 05:14:57 PM
Ahhhhhhhh, okay.  Thanks!

I thought this year they were also going to be coming down harder on spiking celebrations in general.  Was that never made official?

umm, no. this aint college. ;D

Thanks! There is a reason I don't like women's & college sports as much...

What's the reason? I really enjoy college sports.

And, spiking the ball at any time is an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty in college football. MUCH tighter rules on stuff like that.


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: stroh on October 28, 2007, 05:22:24 PM
With that being said, spiking the football should be a penalty.

Why?


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: twoiron on October 28, 2007, 06:19:05 PM
With that being said, spiking the football should be a penalty.

Why?

But how then will the kiddies learn to imitate their heroes and grow up to be obnoxious wankers on the sportsfield?? :o


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: MFAWG on October 28, 2007, 07:17:26 PM
With that being said, spiking the football should be a penalty.

Why?

But how then will the kiddies learn to imitate their heroes and grow up to be obnoxious wankers on the sportsfield?? :o

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Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: Teed on October 28, 2007, 07:20:23 PM
With that being said, spiking the football should be a penalty.

Why?

Either you can use the football as a prop during TD celebration or you can't.  I consider spiking the ball a TD celebration!  It should be a penalty.


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: Seamus on October 28, 2007, 07:21:31 PM
Billy "White Shoes" Johnson surrenders.


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on October 28, 2007, 08:09:25 PM
Ahhhhhhhh, okay.  Thanks!

I thought this year they were also going to be coming down harder on spiking celebrations in general.  Was that never made official?

umm, no. this aint college. ;D

Thanks! There is a reason I don't like women's & college sports as much...

What's the reason? I really enjoy college sports.

And, spiking the ball at any time is an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty in college football. MUCH tighter rules on stuff like that.

I suppose some of it is because my dad didn't watch it much.  I suppose some of it is I don't watch it much, but I don't see the same competitiveness that I can usually see in pro sports, unless it's a major game (like the playoffs).  Or maybe I'm just watching the :airquotes: wrong :airquotes: season games. [sm_dunno] 

Believe it or not, I'm a very aggressive and competitive person when it comes to sports, and I guess I like to see that when watching it, too. 

I'm not saying that there aren't any college athletes that are competitive.  I guess I just don't see enough of it.  On the other hand, I'm not saying all pro athletes are competitive.  Moss is a great player, but he's also a good example of this.  If he didn't want to play, he basically didn't.  There were just some games that he lacked a competitive drive, yet, at the same time, he had tons of it during other games. 


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: Uisce Beatha on October 28, 2007, 09:05:19 PM
Football's only problem is that it has 8.5 billion rules.  It's tough to keep up from one year to the next.

On topic, nothing wrong with a spike.  Scoring a TD is a good thing.  Celebrating should be allowed to some degree.

Although there's no question that Barry Sanders celebrated better than any.  Politely handing the ball to the official rules.


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on October 28, 2007, 09:27:27 PM
On topic, nothing wrong with a spike.  Scoring a TD is a good thing.  Celebrating should be allowed to some degree.

I don't mean there shouldn't be any celebrations.  I certainly feel like celebrating when I out-drive Kev, 'course he's using his 9i and I'm using my driver, but that's besides the point.

I just was wondering why spiking the football isn't being called. 


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: stroh on October 29, 2007, 05:28:53 AM
With that being said, spiking the football should be a penalty.

Why?

Either you can use the football as a prop during TD celebration or you can't.  I consider spiking the ball a TD celebration!  It should be a penalty.

Sorry Teed, I misread your post the first time.  I agree with your take on the letter of the rule.

Having said that, I'm not sure where I stand on simply spiking the ball.

I actually like endzone celebrations.  The stupider the better.

Steve smith to Fred Smoot "on the ground paddling a canoe"  (in the wake of the Love Boat cruise)

priceless. ;D


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: MFAWG on October 29, 2007, 11:01:03 AM
It's one thing if an offensive guard recovers a fumble and scores on some improbable play, but I think you're average RB or wide receiver should take Vince Lombardi's advice and act like they've been in the end zone before.


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: Aske on October 29, 2007, 11:07:17 AM
td spikes in the endzone still legal,  spikes on the field after a normal play. not so much.


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: Uisce Beatha on October 29, 2007, 11:11:09 AM
Scoring celebrations in football rock.

(http://enquirer.com/editions/2003/06/09/soc_zoom.jpg)


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: birdymaker on October 29, 2007, 11:22:13 AM
Scoring celebrations in football rock.

(http://enquirer.com/editions/2003/06/09/soc_zoom.jpg)

who is that dude and where are his pads? [sm_dunno]


Title: Re: Football Question
Post by: Teed on October 29, 2007, 11:29:35 AM
td spikes in the endzone still legal,  spikes on the field after a normal play. not so much.


Delay of game penalty during normal play.