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Title: any given sunday- how pittsburgh steelers missed the playoffs despite....
Post by: Aske on October 31, 2006, 01:25:29 PM
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Title: Re: any given sunday- how pittsburgh steelers missed the playoffs despite....
Post by: Uisce Beatha on October 31, 2006, 01:48:31 PM
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They might finish the season at 7-9 or 6-10, but does anybody in their right mind look at the schedule and think, “Oh, goody - we’ve got Pittsburgh this week”?

The same can be set of Philly (4-4), proving, once again, that God hates Pennsylvania.

LOL, that's great.

I'm a Steeler fan in pain.  I don't know if I should check out completely and don my "next year" hat or hang in there and suffer through.  I expect they'll get healthy enough to at least get on a .500 track over the remaining games.  With a little luck they'll have an outside shot at a wildcard slot with three games or so left.  That'll just extend the pain through December.  I'm not sure it's worth it. :'(


Title: Re: any given sunday- how pittsburgh steelers missed the playoffs despite....
Post by: Aske on October 31, 2006, 02:39:33 PM
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They might finish the season at 7-9 or 6-10, but does anybody in their right mind look at the schedule and think, “Oh, goody - we’ve got Pittsburgh this week”?

The same can be set of Philly (4-4), proving, once again, that God hates Pennsylvania.

LOL, that's great.

I'm a Steeler fan in pain.  I don't know if I should check out completely and don my "next year" hat or hang in there and suffer through.  I expect they'll get healthy enough to at least get on a .500 track over the remaining games.  With a little luck they'll have an outside shot at a wildcard slot with three games or so left.  That'll just extend the pain through December.  I'm not sure it's worth it. :'(


you're way more the optimist than I am.

and in a different way.

I see them , actually playing VERY WELL  (of course, luck, etc aside)  and finishing 10-6.  however, I don't think even 11-5 (for them, based on already existing losses to cincy, jax, sd)  would get a wild card this year.   too many very very good teams in the AFC  that i see finishing 11-5.




*oh,  and I think this was their last good chance.   too many players entering the downside of their careers (injury wise)...  they won't be as loaded next year as this year.   i see  2 or 3  8-8 or so seasons and the need for about 5 draft/free agent acquisitions to rebuild them to a real contender  after this season.





Title: Re: any given sunday- how pittsburgh steelers missed the playoffs despite....
Post by: Uisce Beatha on October 31, 2006, 02:47:03 PM
You're probably right about the record needed for a wildcard but, as the Steelers have shown, injuries are huge in the NFL.  Every team is 2-3 guys away from spiraling down the drain. 

As I suggested, when all is said and done, the Steelers are toast.  I'm not a fair weather fan but I'm not sure I want to get all wrapped up in clinging to a 3% chance for two months that they'll manage to pull it out.

It's a shame really.  They're missing some key ingredients from last year so I didn't expect a repeat but they clearly have a playoff caliber team if they're healthy.

I don't think we should underestimate the long-term effects of the past four months on Roethlisberger.  I think the chances are reasonable that he'll never again perform at the level he did for the past two seasons.


Title: Re: any given sunday- how pittsburgh steelers missed the playoffs despite....
Post by: Aske on October 31, 2006, 02:55:12 PM
You're probably right about the record needed for a wildcard but, as the Steelers have shown, injuries are huge in the NFL.  Every team is 2-3 guys away from spiraling down the drain. 

As I suggested, when all is said and done, the Steelers are toast.  I'm not a fair weather fan but I'm not sure I want to get all wrapped up in clinging to a 3% chance for two months that they'll manage to pull it out.

It's a shame really.  They're missing some key ingredients from last year so I didn't expect a repeat but they clearly have a playoff caliber team if they're healthy.

I don't think we should underestimate the long-term effects of the past four months on Roethlisberger.  I think the chances are reasonable that he'll never again perform at the level he did for the past two seasons.

true, i mean, i'd love to see them right the ship overnight,  but it just wont happen.  11-5, AND luck, and maybe they get in the playoffs, but they need luck, and then they gotta win 3 more on the road to get into the super bowl.


as for ROTH,  he was* playing great against kc and atlanta.  showed little to no let down from last year... ....   but rushing him back in against OAKLAND showed the mistake of both bad shrot and long term thinking....  anyone remember steve young and troy aikman  ? they had some  rush-back  post-concussion  games and  laid eggs similar to what roth  just did....   there's were in the 5-6 concussion range though, not the 2.        really, for their long term future, I think they should bench him this year,  tank out, and get the best draft pick they can.   the OL  and LB corps  could use some shoring up.   of course, another premier receiver wouldn't hurt (jackson, ginn or manningham(if he comes out)  )    imagine that set... ward, holmes, and one of those 3....


Title: Re: any given sunday- how pittsburgh steelers missed the playoffs despite....
Post by: Uisce Beatha on October 31, 2006, 03:01:01 PM
*oh,  and I think this was their last good chance.   too many players entering the downside of their careers (injury wise)...  they won't be as loaded next year as this year.   i see  2 or 3  8-8 or so seasons and the need for about 5 draft/free agent acquisitions to rebuild them to a real contender  after this season.

Yep.  But it's SOOOOOO much easier to take those rebuilding years when they're preceded by a championship.   ;)

Those years following the *><><><* loss were tough.