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General => The Cantina => Topic started by: Clive on April 22, 2008, 02:20:01 PM



Title: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: Clive on April 22, 2008, 02:20:01 PM
Websites like pricegrabber.com, become.com, bizrate.com, shopping.yahoo.com, etc. -- how do they get their content, showing the item and various online places/prices? Web crawlers? Sheer human effort?

I'm having a trademark misuse issue at work. Our customers aren't misusing our mark, but shopping sites like the above ARE. Trying to figure out if I have to chase every last one, or if they pull data from somewhere. It'd be nice to cut off the head and watch the whole beast die.


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: spacey on April 22, 2008, 02:35:14 PM
I don't know.


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: twoiron on April 22, 2008, 02:48:48 PM
"Kill them!!!"


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: dystopia on April 22, 2008, 03:05:51 PM
Looking at two of the sites above, it looks like they grab their content from more than one source.

1) The most common method looks like a Merchant/online store provides a data feed from their website that pricegrabber or become.com aggregates and displays.

Say I run a puny website selling crap online:

a) I register as a merchant on pricegrabber or become.com.

b) I set up a data feed (essentially a text listing) on my site with all my products (prices, all the text/descriptions, urls to images)

c) My feed has to match the specs they provide:
https://www.become.com/merchant/DataFeedSpecification.aspx
https://partner.pricegrabber.com/mss_main.php?sec=2&ccode=us

d) Then I either upload my feed to their server or they have an automated process to grab my feed periodically from my server.


2) It looks like PriceGrabber also has an option to manage your own storefront through their site if you don't have a store.  Yahoo Stores seem like they're mostly managed through Yahoo's site.



This is just from a cursory glance, though.  It would be interesting to see if a misused mark on bizrate/pricegrabber matches the same mistake on a merchant's own site.  And then see if the same product from different merchants within bizrate/pricegrabber all have the same misuse.


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: birdymaker on April 22, 2008, 03:07:16 PM
 :D
(http://adiadrian.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/headless-chicken.jpg)


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: Clive on April 22, 2008, 04:00:13 PM
blah blah blah
Thanks.

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It would be interesting to see if a misused mark on bizrate/pricegrabber matches the same mistake on a merchant's own site.  And then see if the same product from different merchants within bizrate/pricegrabber all have the same misuse.
They don't.  I follow the links to third-party sites on any given page of hits; maybe half come up with the offending use, half don't.  Perhaps it's in meta fields?  I haven't looked there.

My company and another, unrelated entity both have registrations for the same trademark.  Our customers' (and these shopping sites') offending misuse encroaches on the other entity's registration.  I'm trying to assuage points of friction, lest we ( and our customers) find ourselves in court.  But geez, it's like herding kittens with these websites!


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: Spanky on April 22, 2008, 06:35:14 PM
Am I the only one that wants to know what this "offending misuse" is?

I want a link!


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: twoiron on April 22, 2008, 06:42:53 PM
Am I the only one that wants to know what this "offending misuse" is?


Very possibly,.... maybe with the execpetion of Clive and Stroh...

 [sm_anon]


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: dystopia on April 22, 2008, 06:43:11 PM
Am I the only one that wants to know what this "offending misuse" is?

I want a link!

NSFW


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: Spanky on April 22, 2008, 06:44:38 PM
Am I the only one that wants to know what this "offending misuse" is?

I want a link!

NSFW
LMAO, I wonder if I can get Darla to get me one of those.


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: birdymaker on April 22, 2008, 06:45:06 PM
rofl  :lolspit:  dys i don't want to know how you came across that.


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: Darla on April 22, 2008, 07:06:11 PM
Am I the only one that wants to know what this "offending misuse" is?

I want a link!

NSFW
LMAO, I wonder if I can get Darla to get me one of those.

No chance in hell. I would have to get more than one attachment in a few years and I really don't want to know about that!  :o


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: twoiron on April 22, 2008, 07:10:55 PM
Am I the only one that wants to know what this "offending misuse" is?

I want a link!

NSFW

I'm not sure what concerns me most:

That someone has actually gone to the effort to make that thing; or
That Dys actually found that particular link.

 :o


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: Spanky on April 22, 2008, 07:12:37 PM
Am I the only one that wants to know what this "offending misuse" is?

I want a link!

NSFW

I'm not sure what concerns me most:

That someone has actually gone to the effort to make that thing; or
That Dys actually found that particular link.

 :o
Do I need to repost that pic of Dys?


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: Darla on April 22, 2008, 07:14:39 PM
Am I the only one that wants to know what this "offending misuse" is?

I want a link!

NSFW

I'm not sure what concerns me most:

That someone has actually gone to the effort to make that thing; or
That Dys actually found that particular link.

 :o
Do I need to repost that pic of Dys?
since I am new to this forum, what pic are you referring too, and do I really want to know?


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: Spanky on April 22, 2008, 07:15:58 PM
http://www.golfhos.com/forum/index.php/topic,6028.0.html

For those that don't remember or never saw this threat.
One of the greatest EVAR!


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: twoiron on April 22, 2008, 07:19:24 PM
Am I the only one that wants to know what this "offending misuse" is?

I want a link!

NSFW

I'm not sure what concerns me most:

That someone has actually gone to the effort to make that thing; or
That Dys actually found that particular link.

 :o
Do I need to repost that pic of Dys?

If it's the one I'm thinking of,.... I still haven't recovered.... nobody needs to see that *feces* :o


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: Clive on April 22, 2008, 07:31:32 PM
rofl  :lolspit:  dys i don't want to know how you came across that.
Ewww ....





And wow!  This thread certainly went off the rails in a hurry.


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: Spanky on April 22, 2008, 07:33:49 PM
rofl  :lolspit:  dys i don't want to know how you came across that.
Ewww ....





And wow!  This thread certainly went off the rails in a hurry.
Did you really expect more from us?

I mean come on....really.


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: Darla on April 22, 2008, 07:41:54 PM
http://www.golfhos.com/forum/index.php/topic,6028.0.html

For those that don't remember or never saw this threat.
One of the greatest EVAR!

That thread was HILARIOUS! The picture of dys,  :lolspit: funny. the guy used instruments from blood pressure cuffs and gave new meaning to fleshlight.

or should I say joystick!!!


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: dystopia on April 22, 2008, 10:21:14 PM
LOL  [sm_anon]


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: Jules on April 23, 2008, 12:37:57 AM
Now I really know what it is. ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: OK, I'll Ask Here, Too
Post by: stroh on April 23, 2008, 07:21:18 AM
Now I really know what it is. ;D ;D ;D

I was gonna give you a link.  ;D






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