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Title: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: Uisce Beatha on October 30, 2007, 07:12:25 PM Dys almost had me posting a Irulan v. Leah poll but I know how you guys can't resist danish. Figured I'd broaden it up a bit and go with the very best sci-fi universe ever created v. the obnoxiously transparent copy. Come to think of it, I might have had better luck with the first idea.
Man, are you lot gonna cream me on this one. ;) Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on October 30, 2007, 07:37:14 PM Neither. :D
Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: MFAWG on October 30, 2007, 07:42:04 PM So, how's your mom's basement these days?
Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: Uisce Beatha on October 30, 2007, 07:46:24 PM So, how's your mom's basement these days? You know, typical young lad decor. Posters and whatnot. (http://www.mattresspolice.com/images/sting_dune.jpg) Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: MFAWG on October 30, 2007, 07:50:42 PM Best Sting line EVAR:
'I will kill him, I WILL!!!!' Lord, what a piece of crap that movie was. Then SciFi managed to make a mini-series that was arguably WORSE, an incredible achevement, really. Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: Uisce Beatha on October 30, 2007, 07:55:49 PM The first movie ruined my mind's eye depiction for years. It honestly took 3-4 subsequent readings of the series to erase.
Started watching the SFC version but quit after about an hour. The novels are too good - especially the original. It's a book that should never have been made into a movie. Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: MFAWG on October 30, 2007, 08:00:16 PM What I've heard is the son has managed to run the family bidness into the ground from the compound up in the San Juans, but I haven't read anything past the first 2.
I was more of a Bradbury/Heinlein guy, and Hollywood *fudge*ed Heinlein's Starship Troopers up REALLY bad... Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: Uisce Beatha on October 30, 2007, 08:08:59 PM What I've heard is the son has managed to run the family bidness into the ground from the compound up in the San Juans, but I haven't read anything past the first 2. I was more of a Bradbury/Heinlein guy, and Hollywood *fudge*ed Heinlein's Starship Troopers up REALLY bad... There are two sons. Brian is an author and building on his father's work. Not super great stuff but worth reading. I don't know about the other son much nor about the self sustaining eco-chit that Frank started. I do know there's some serious "dad loved you more than me" action going on with perhaps some real truth to it. Might be tough to live with an uber-genius I expect. Especially if you don't measure up. Segue. I'll be driving through Florence, OR in about 32 days. That's where Dune got its start with a piece Herbert wrote titled They Stopped the Moving Sands about efforts to keep the dunes from drifting destructively. I always think about that when I go through there. Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: stroh on October 30, 2007, 08:13:16 PM Recused, for never watching Dune. (or reading it I guess. Isn't it a book, or something also? Whatever)
Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: spacey on October 30, 2007, 09:18:59 PM It's a book that should never have been made into a movie. I've never read the book, but upon this point I think we can both agree.Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: MFAWG on October 30, 2007, 09:21:56 PM What I've heard is the son has managed to run the family bidness into the ground from the compound up in the San Juans, but I haven't read anything past the first 2. I was more of a Bradbury/Heinlein guy, and Hollywood *fudge*ed Heinlein's Starship Troopers up REALLY bad... There are two sons. Brian is an author and building on his father's work. Not super great stuff but worth reading. I don't know about the other son much nor about the self sustaining eco-chit that Frank started. I do know there's some serious "dad loved you more than me" action going on with perhaps some real truth to it. Might be tough to live with an uber-genius I expect. Especially if you don't measure up. The other son died of AIDS in 1993, and was a well known homer****ual advocate and gadfly. Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: dystopia on October 31, 2007, 12:55:38 AM I saw the movie as a kid and didn't know what the heck was going on. I later saw a much lengthier "director's cut" of the lynch movie and enjoyed it more. (I was also older).
Finally read the book for the first time in college and loved it, but sadly many of the scenes as I imagined them were shaped by the movie. Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: Uisce Beatha on October 31, 2007, 06:59:24 AM The other son died of AIDS in 1993, and was a well known homer****ual advocate and gadfly. Sorta like Count Fenring albeit without the whole genetic-eunuch, mentat-killer, failed Kwisatz Haderach baggage. Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: Seamus on October 31, 2007, 07:04:19 AM Dune for me.
And I really can't place my finger on why I like it more than the Star Wars universe. Maybe it's the chick with the all blue eyes, or the spice drug aspect of it, or maybe I just like flying fat men who have doctors that attend to their sores. Since today is Halloween it's only right that I should tell you that, for two years post military I dressed up as the beast Rabban (can't find image), it wasn't nearly as cool as Stroh's terminator, but since we had our own "spice" it was just fine. *edit* It's the talking Va-jay-jay...that's what I like. The spice must flow. Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: Seamus on October 31, 2007, 07:24:22 AM This is a scream.
F6XwOmjb0IU Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: Seamus on October 31, 2007, 07:33:01 AM It's a book that should never have been made into a movie. I've never read the book, but upon this point I think we can both agree.TFR8W8_IEWs Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: stroh on October 31, 2007, 07:43:10 AM "Man, we ain't found *feces*!" (http://www.timrusstribute.com/images/Other%20Roles/Spaceballs/Spaceballs4.jpg) Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: Uisce Beatha on October 31, 2007, 08:05:06 AM To Tame a Land was called Dune pre-production. I can't remember if why they changed it but I think they were told they couldn't. Some sort of copyright permission thing.
Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: Spanky on October 31, 2007, 10:04:13 AM Never saw Dune or read the book. Now that I'm older and the novelty of Star Wars has worn off I now see that Lucas can't direct.
Quote from: stroh serving no purpose here, leaving now Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: stroh on October 31, 2007, 10:16:50 AM ;D
Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: MFAWG on October 31, 2007, 10:21:27 AM This is a scream. F6XwOmjb0IU What would make it funnier is if it wasn't vastly superior to the original product. Hd0l2UvGXn8 Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: gleek on October 31, 2007, 10:22:37 AM Never saw Dune or read the book. Now that I'm older and the novelty of Star Wars has worn off I now see that Lucas can't direct. Quote from: stroh serving no purpose here, leaving now The only things Lucas does well are sound and special effects. His screenwriting is teh sukk. The dialogue is trite and some of the scenes in the prequels were just ridiculous. How many *goshdarn* times does somebody have to say "I've got a bad feeling about this" or use the term "delusions of grandeur"? Did Lucas completely run out of ideas when the storyline called for Obi-Wan to go to a diner to talk to the short order cook who comes out wearing a greasy shirt? OMG Then there's the scene in which Obi-Wan goes to a Jedi library to do research. WTF? Doesn't he have some kind of wireless device to look that *feces* up? As for Dune, I think I slept through about 75% of it when I went to see it in the theater. Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: Aske on October 31, 2007, 10:25:45 AM OMG Then there's the scene in which Obi-Wan goes to a Jedi library to do research. WTF? Doesn't he have some kind of wireless device to look that *feces* up? or why didn't he just use the force to will the information into his brain? [sm_devil] Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: spacey on October 31, 2007, 11:44:46 AM To Tame a Land was called Dune pre-production. I can't remember if why they changed it but I think they were told they couldn't. Some sort of copyright permission thing. IIRC Frank Herbert abhorred rock music, metal in particular, and expressly forbade them from using the title. I'm assuming Maiden was simply honoring his wishes, as I think it would probably fall under fair use if they really wanted to press the issue. Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: gleek on October 31, 2007, 11:53:37 AM To Tame a Land was called Dune pre-production. I can't remember if why they changed it but I think they were told they couldn't. Some sort of copyright permission thing. IIRC Frank Herbert abhorred rock music, metal in particular, and expressly forbade them from using the title. I'm assuming Maiden was simply honoring his wishes, as I think it would probably fall under fair use if they really wanted to press the issue. Herbert=über dörk Title: Re: Dune v. Star Wars Post by: Uisce Beatha on October 31, 2007, 12:44:32 PM To Tame a Land was called Dune pre-production. I can't remember if why they changed it but I think they were told they couldn't. Some sort of copyright permission thing. IIRC Frank Herbert abhorred rock music, metal in particular, and expressly forbade them from using the title. I'm assuming Maiden was simply honoring his wishes, as I think it would probably fall under fair use if they really wanted to press the issue. Herbert=über dörk Coleridge rulz. [sm_headbang] |