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Title: This is politics at it's worst
Post by: birdymaker on December 23, 2009, 05:44:13 AM
I've already written my senator on this.  ;)


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34551523/ns/politics-health_care_reform


Title: Re: This is politics at it's worst
Post by: Aske on December 23, 2009, 06:36:44 AM
I've already written my senator on this.  ;)


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34551523/ns/politics-health_care_reform

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This is politics at it's worst


hopefully you didn't copy and paste from it....

 8)


Title: Re: This is politics at it's worst
Post by: MFAWG on December 23, 2009, 07:13:27 AM
I thought so to, but McKenna's no party hack.

Just sayin'.


Title: Re: This is politics at it's worst
Post by: birdymaker on December 23, 2009, 07:55:30 AM
I'm saying the whole deal from beginning to end including the fact that our president see's nothing wrong with it or at the very least see's it as the cost of getting what he wants.

Frankly at this point I think they should scrap the whole mess and start over.


Title: Re: This is politics at it's worst
Post by: gleek on December 23, 2009, 10:56:42 AM
Now that these Senators got what they really wanted (a little sumpin sumpin for their states), are they going to vote against the final bill coming out of conference committee if the bill ends up having the House's version of the public option? Ben Nelson got his pet concern (abortion) addressed. Let's see if that bassett hound-looking Senator from Aetna is still willing to kill the bill if he's the last man standing.


Title: Re: This is politics at it's worst
Post by: Blader on December 23, 2009, 11:37:09 AM
The Nebraska deal was a very shrewd move compared to the alternatives, and--because when the dust settles and all the other states are going to demand a piece of that action--it may be seen as the first step along the path of federalizing medicaid, which would be a very, very good thing.

I think it is a great example of using legislation to give the appearance of fixing a transient gap (the impact of new medicaid rules on Nebraska's state budget problems) while simultaneously moving inexorably towards a much broader and meaningful objective.

And federalizing medicaid may prove, by the end of this process we will have set upon with this 2010 HCR Ted Kennedy Honorarium, the first necessary step in universal health care coverage for all Americans. 

Because what will happen is that somewhere down the road the people will rise up and demand from their federal government the same level of health care and security that it gives to the weak, the infirm and the poverty stricken.

IAW, blink blink, we'll roll out and experiment with a single payer system on the street people and the Appalachian meth *trollop*s.  And it will work and we will all be envious of it.  Even the Red State Governors.  Especially the Red State Governors!!

You see, these conservatives think they are playing checkers, but it is really a game of chess.

What a bunch of morons.  Their cause gets floored with this bill, for a few generations.  And when they finally manage to get up off the mat, they are going to find it is a nation of brown people, brown people with memories, few if any of which are happy memories about republicans.