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Title: nfl power rankings: perception vs. statistics...
Post by: Aske on October 18, 2006, 10:19:50 AM
dr. zzzzzz.  http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/dr_z/10/18/ranks.part1/index.html
peter sofa king  http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/10/16/mmqb/1.html
espn conglom  http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2006&week=7
pete crisco  http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/powerrankings
peter schlonger  http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/powerRankings


football outsiders http://www.footballoutsiders.com/2006/10/17/ramblings/dvoa-rankings/4409/


interesting.






Title: Re: nfl power rankings: perception vs. statistics...
Post by: dystopia on October 18, 2006, 01:45:37 PM
So the stats put the Chargers at the top and Colts at 13th.  The perception is pretty similar across the board.  Where do you fall?


This is damn funny....
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To save people some time, please use the zlionsfan template for all complaints:

<team> is clearly ranked <too high/too low> because <reason unrelated to DVOA>. <subjective ranking system> is way better than this. <unrelated team-supporting or -denigrating comment, preferably with poor spelling and/or chat-acceptable spelling>



Title: Re: nfl power rankings: perception vs. statistics...
Post by: Aske on October 18, 2006, 06:46:09 PM
i think there's SOME value in both.

but i think #'s don't really lie... it's just how accurately they are calculated, and whether or not we INTERPRET them correctly.


i'm not gonna argue, for example the steelers are #1.  but I do think their defense is certainly top 10 if not top 5.   you wouldn't expect the #17/18 team in a power rankings list to have a top 5 defense, for example.


as for the colts,  they're 5-0, and rightly so. but they have yet to play a team with a great run offense, and a decent passing defense.   the #'s say they will lose when they do so.


the bears lost about 20% of their dvoa after the cards game... and while still a good team, the #'s brought them back somewhat to the back, and indicate sd  could well beat them... which one would certainly think if having watched both play.


the #'s for DVOA are most interesting in the transition to the 0% mark (and below)...   notice the cluster of teams from 10-0%,  but none from 0- -10 %.   the gap between the middle tier and bottom tier teams is huge... as is the gap from the tier to top 3 or 4  to the middle... which show  GREAT parity.... as one might expect.

 8)


Title: Re: nfl power rankings: perception vs. statistics...
Post by: MP on October 18, 2006, 06:55:33 PM
#32 Oakland Raiders (0-5)

brings tears to my eyes... ;D ;D ;D