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Title: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: spacey on November 06, 2006, 09:03:14 PM
 :o


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: Uisce Beatha on November 07, 2006, 05:55:13 AM
I am the world's biggest fair weather NBA fan.  Should I start paying attention again? 

 ;)


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: spacey on November 07, 2006, 09:19:05 AM
Jazz look pretty good so far against two pretty good teams one mediocre team and one pretty crappy team. Probably a little to early to be hoisting any banners in the Delta Center, particularly since Jerry Sloan will make every attempt to ruin the team chemistry any second now, but they've been fun to watch for the first 4 games.


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: Aske on November 07, 2006, 09:40:19 AM
what happened to the mavS?
 [sm_shock]


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: spacey on November 07, 2006, 09:47:41 AM
what happened to the mavS?
 [sm_shock]

The new Mark Cuban rule has gone into effect. Took the legs right out from under them.

Speaking of new rules, Rasheed Wallace got jobbed last night by the new Rasheed Wallace rule. Flip Saunders took exception and got teed up as well. Very odd.


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: MP on November 07, 2006, 10:02:52 PM
Didn't watch the Lakers last season cuz it was getting g3h.  but this year it's really fun watching Bynum so far. 


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: spacey on November 11, 2006, 10:00:44 PM
6-1; best record in the NBA.  :o :o :o

I'll enjoy it while I can. Jerry Sloan to kill the chemistry in 5...4....3...2...


Title: Re: Who's that atop the...
Post by: spacey on November 17, 2006, 10:05:02 PM
...Northwest NBA?

 [sm_shock] [sm_shock] [sm_shock]

8-1. Enjoying it while I can...


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: stroh on November 18, 2006, 06:52:33 AM
Jazz look pretty good.

I see a KG trade this year.  Maybe even Casey gone.


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: Aske on November 18, 2006, 07:23:08 AM
mavs: 4,4
suns: 3,5

 [sm_shock]


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: spacey on November 18, 2006, 09:28:24 AM
Jazz look pretty good.

I see a KG trade this year.  Maybe even Casey gone.

I think KG has wanted out for quite a while now. Unfortunately for him, he's 30 years old and has a bloated contract. It will be interesting to see where, if anywhere, he ends up. Prolly in NY.  [sm_devil]


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: spacey on November 18, 2006, 08:58:22 PM
9-1 Bitches!!! (What a comeback  [sm_shock] [sm_shock] [sm_shock])


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: spacey on November 20, 2006, 10:33:23 PM
Another 16 point 3rd quarter deficit come from behind victory? WTF is this team? Can't be the Utah Jazz!  :o :o :o


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: Uisce Beatha on November 21, 2006, 06:46:29 AM
Another 16 point 3rd quarter deficit come from behind victory? WTF is this team? Can't be the Utah Jazz!  :o :o :o

900 wins for Sloan too.  I know you don't like him but the fact that this guy has never been coach of the year is ridiculous. 

East/west coast bias.   [sm_devil] ;) ;D


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: Aske on November 21, 2006, 06:49:00 AM
Another 16 point 3rd quarter deficit come from behind victory? WTF is this team? Can't be the Utah Jazz!  :o :o :o

900 wins for Sloan too.  I know you don't like him but the fact that this guy has never been coach of the year is ridiculous. 

East/west coast bias.   [sm_devil] ;) ;D

i think I could have coached  stockton/malone  to  700-800 wins

"uh hey john,  dribble around, and run a pick and roll with malone.  karl, when he gets it to you, go in for a dunk or draw a foul.  the rest of you guys... get out of the way, and play a little defense.  good job guys.  oh yeah, and ostertag- only tip it if it's off an offensive board"


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: Uisce Beatha on November 21, 2006, 07:03:58 AM
i think I could have coached  stockton/malone  to  700-800 wins

"uh hey john,  dribble around, and run a pick and roll with malone.  karl, when he gets it to you, go in for a dunk or draw a foul.  the rest of you guys... get out of the way, and play a little defense.  good job guys."

Perhaps you might have.  But by that logic we should disqualify Phil Jackson and others.

Sloan coached the Jazz to 40 wins in 2003-2004 with *nobody* on the team.  Remember, they were projected to win less than 10 games and were considered in the preseason to be the "worst team ever".  He came in second to Hubie Brown.

900 wins and two finals or a 300% outstripping of expectations, either way he should have had one somewhere along the way.


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: Aske on November 21, 2006, 07:05:24 AM
i think I could have coached  stockton/malone  to  700-800 wins

"uh hey john,  dribble around, and run a pick and roll with malone.  karl, when he gets it to you, go in for a dunk or draw a foul.  the rest of you guys... get out of the way, and play a little defense.  good job guys."

Perhaps you might have.  But by that logic we should disqualify Phil Jackson and others.

Sloan coached the Jazz to 40 wins in 2003-2004 with *nobody* on the team.  Remember, they were projected to win less than 10 games and were considered in the preseason to be the "worst team ever".  He came in second to Hubie Brown.

900 wins and two finals or a 300% outstripping of expectations, either way he should have had one somewhere along the way.

i know, just had to poke a little fun at the 'methodical' nature of how the jazz won.  boring, irritating, etc to the non-jazz-fan.... but undoubtedly successful.


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: Uisce Beatha on November 21, 2006, 07:11:11 AM
boring, irritating, etc to the non-jazz-fan

You're probably right.  Funny though, that's what made them enjoyable to me.  I admitted earlier that I'm a fair weather fan when it comes to the NBA.  The reason being it has become a fast break, slam dunk and three point contest.  No fundamentals and entirely based upon superstars going showtime.  Sure it's an impressive athletic display but it barely resembles basketball.  I haven't watched ten minutes of the NBA in the past five years.

$0.02 and worth less than half that.   :P


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: Aske on November 21, 2006, 07:13:45 AM
boring, irritating, etc to the non-jazz-fan

You're probably right.  Funny though, that's what made them enjoyable to me.  I admitted earlier that I'm a fair weather fan when it comes to the NBA.  The reason being it has become a fast break, slam dunk and three point contest.  No fundamentals and entirely based upon superstars going showtime.  Sure it's an impressive athletic display but it barely resembles basketball.  I haven't watched ten minutes of the NBA in the past five years.

$0.02 and worth less than half that.   :P

oh, i dislike me-ball and dunk-fests too.  i don't even watch the NBA much anymore either,  still like the spurs and mavs though, and both actually play some team ball.    the thing with the malone/stockton thing... it got annoying because you know its coming, the defense knows its coming, and they still don't stop it
 ;D


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: spacey on November 21, 2006, 09:11:06 AM
The old Stockton/Malone offense was indeed effective, but I've always maintained that it had more to do with Stockton and Malone than the pick and roll. The biggest issue I have with Sloan is that he has, until this season, appeared unwilling to adapt to the modern game. He's always claimed that if it's a running contest, the Jazz won't compete. With Malone, Stockton, Hornacek, Ostertag, etc. he was probably right. He's now, with the exception of Matt Harpring, got a very young and athletic team who can run with the best of them. For the most part he appears to be letting them, and I'm impressed.

Look at the team stats so far, it's quite obviously still a team game as far as the Jazz are concerned. They're fun to watch this season and hopefully that doesn't change down the stretch. Plus they're winning without Kirilenko, which gives a lot of optimism about the future to this Jazz fan.

As far as "knowing it's coming but they can't stop it," Jazz fans have those frustrations too. Pay attention next time they play a team known for shooting 3s (Sacramento, Phoenix, Dallas, etc) and notice how the defense will always collapse to the inside to double team the guy in the lane, leaving the perimeter wide open, every damn time.


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: dystopia on November 25, 2006, 10:53:21 PM
WTF?  The Warriors beat the Jazz tonight?

Hmm, the Golden State bandwagon is starting to look pretty good.... :D


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: Aske on November 26, 2006, 06:24:05 AM
WTF?  The Warriors beat the Jazz tonight?

Hmm, the Golden State bandwagon is starting to look pretty good.... :D
  [sm_shock] [sm_shock]


Title: Re: Who's that atop the Northwest?
Post by: spacey on November 26, 2006, 09:38:35 AM
I didn't get to watch the game last night, but it sounds like the Jazz weren't dancing with them what brung them.