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 :tapsfingers:

I'm banking on it helping me take a nap.

LOL  I'm moving crap out of one bedroom to another bedroom on the opposite side of the house.

Thinking about leaving the living room tv on the hockey game and the kitchen tv on the draft as I walk back and forth past them.

One of the signs of the Apocalypse played out today.

A 4 hour pre-draft show on ESPN. How exactly do they fill 4 hours?

LOL at Keyshawn's suit/tie/shirt combo.

 ;D

they need that much time so mel krapper and his hair helmet can run down every possible scenario so that he can claim he was right when  one out of those 234908123 actually turns out to happen

no real surprises yet through 6 picks.

will the pats trade out of 7  with the 2 main guys they wanted at that spot gone ?

trade !

saints give up 10 and what else ?  to get ellis

trade   from balt and jax.  :o

jeebus, I walked away and everyone traded places. [sm_shock]

saints-pats trade deal


pats get #10, saints 3rd round pick
saints get #7 , pats 5th round pick

weak draft this year. Teams are willing to trade down for quantity.

jax take derrick harvey

this jax pick will make or break   krapper's  credibility more than anything in a long time.   he has their guy @ 23rd.   need @ position or not, you don't move up 18 spots  for a guy rated that low unless you think he's WAYYY higher than that.   

wow, ravens get 4 picks total for that jax trade
 [sm_shock]

bungles take rivers LB from usc

what the *fudge* is this new adam sandler movie
 [sm_shock]

if clady falls through the 11th spot that might actually mean good news for steelers @ a chance for an elite OL  [sm_fingersx]

pats take  mayo  LB out of tennessee

looks like a bad tackler on his highlight real.  all about knockout hits than sound tackles.  that works in college but not in the pros

wow, 75 minutes in and 10 picks done.
 :o

someone cut bermans mike please
 


so how does a bills team go 7-9 last year  with the "30th" offense and "31st" defense

oh yeh, because total yard # stats that aren't normalized are worthless.
DVOA  FTW.

bills take  kiper's   "3rd best  CB"
 [sm_shock]

12 picks in 84 minutes
 [sm_shock]


#12, the broncos take clady

I like the shorter time limit.  Much more watchable  [sm_thumbsup2]

kiper, did you not watch him play against oklahoma in the fiesta bowl?

tard.

carolina takes j. stewart  RB   :o

lions 1 pick away, who's the best receiver on the board?  [sm_devil]

LOL. bears take williams OT from the glorias

i love how krappertard says blahblah flacco and henne will be gone, brohm might be there that late in the 2nd round... then 1 minute later on the screen it lists  brohm above henne in  his  best remaining qb's  list

KC trades up from 17 to 15  with detroit
 

chiefs take OG/OT brendan albert  from virginia

5 minutes after the trade is announced and the espn sidebar still lists kc as having the #17

lol

they're consistent.

if i see that murderer one more time today i'm gonna puke. [sm_puke]

which one

cardinals @ 16 take CB  rodgers-cromartie 

that stick is gonna get crushed when a big RB hits him .

the Under Armour one.

lions take  cherilius @ 17

guess they're aiming for more  games this year with - rushing yards.

baltimore trades up to 18 with houston

and the ravens take flacco from delaware @ QB

carolina trades into the beagles spot

panthers take jeff otah, OT

dammit.
 :sad3:

no elite OL  survive down to the steelers

 :sad3:

tb pick is in and its aqib talib
 [sm_shock] [sm_shock] [sm_shock] [sm_shock] [sm_shock] [sm_shock]

redskins trade out of 21  to atlanta
 [sm_shock]

atlanta takes sam baker, OT from usc.

What's your prediction? Or I should say, what would you like to see?

dallas on the clock @ 22

at this point, i'd like them to tank out this year and move up next years draft.
theres no elite players left at positions they need (OT,2xOG, DE, C,S)

steelers will probably take either jones/mendenhall , whichever dallas doesn't take,  just because the value is too great even through they have parker and davenport

@22, cowboys take felix jones


im gonna puke if steelers take mendenhall for 'value'

@23, steelers take........... mendenhall it looks like as he's on the phone
 [sm_disgust] [sm_disgust] [sm_disgust] [sm_disgust]

LOL, looks like it from the "phone call" shot.

big ben will be broken in half this year.
 :sad3:

LOL, Aske needs a job at the NFL network.

WTF, Dallas moves up to 25?

stepped out for a minute and missed some fireworks
 [sm_shock]


24- ten- chris johnson, rb
25- dal-mike jenkins, cb, usf
26 - hou- brown, OT, v.tech
27 - sd- cason, cb, az state
28 - seahags - jackson, de, usc

lol, as if they would put up with my tirades against most of their favorite people

29- niners, kentwan balmer, DT, unc

30, packers, traded off to the jets
 [sm_shock]

i smell henne

 [sm_shock] pack get the jets 2nd and 4th rounders.

30, jets take dustin keller, TE, purdue  [sm_shock] [sm_shock]  crowd hating it.

31, gints on the clock

There is no pleasing the Jets fans

lmao @ krapper and young .  the guy is 6.2, 240  and 4.55  and an insane vertical...   anything he puts on weightwise to become an even 'acceptable' blocker will slow and bog him down.

gints pick at 31 is in.... and its phillips, a safety from miami

2nd round, #1,   Merling, DE from clemson, to the Fins

2nd, #2,  SL takes donnie avery, WR from houston
who?

this guy is the 1st  WR  taken this year?

sweed? jackson?  not good enought?




2nd, #3, skins take WR devin thomas from mich st.

2, #4 chiefs can take henne or brohm to replace croyle.

holy *feces* they're making out like bandits so far in this draft
 

nope, chiefs take  brandon flowers, CB, virginia tech.
 [sm_shock]

cant stand waiting another 1-2 hours to see the steelers next idiotic move.
 [sm_disgust]

what happened to the team once known for ruling the draft?

god, i just remembered we signed moore from MINN.

wtf, are we going for the best 4 back lineup in the nfl?   wtf.   who's going to block for them?
 [sm_disgust]

niners @ 39th  take rachal, OG  from usc.  i was hoping at this point he'd drop to steelers @ 53.

ravens have to be feeling dumb trading back up to 18 for flacco  when brohm and henne still on the board through 40 picks
 [sm_laughatyou]

chilly mcnerd shows a vote of confidence in  tlame  by passing on henne/brohm  there

and that's why the vikes will still not be going anywhere come playoff time.

Tyrell Johnson - Hall Of Famer for sure. ;D

maybe so.  won't help when you can't pass the ball and the other teams stuff the box to limit you to 17-20 points a game running it 1 dimensionally

wow, bears show the ultimate  middle finger to cedric benson there

lmao


too bad they need a QB more

17-20 points a game is well more than enough to win with our defense. 8)

With Henne and Brohm sitting there this pick is a shock. Really Bears? Grossman and Orton??

really.
Sep 16   @Detroit    Lost 17-20   J. Kitna (245)    A. Peterson (66)    R. Williams (111)
Sep 30   Green Bay   Lost 16-23   B. Favre (344)    A. Peterson (112)    B. Wade (83)
Oct 21   @Dallas   Lost 14-24   T. Romo (277)    M. Barber (96)    T. Owens (103)
Oct 28   Philadelphia   Lost 16-23   D. McNabb (333)    A. Peterson (70)    R. Brown
Dec 23   Washington   Lost 21-32   T. Collins (254)    C. Portis (76)    S. Moss (71)
Dec 30   @Denver   Lost 19-22   J. Cutler (246)    S. Young (87)    B. Marshall (114)

the only way it makes any sense is if they know they'll be there in 4-10 more picks and plan to trade up to get one then

wow, steelers AGAIN go for best player available  with Sweed (U Texas)  at WR.
jeebus.

2 picks, 2 positions without need hit.
 :punchballs: [sm_mob]

NFL's leading sack leader and newest Viking says hi. [sm_wave] Madieu Williams & Michael Boulware too. ;)

And this is exactly why drafting a safety in the 2nd round is a head scratcher.

From ESPN on our 2nd round pick:


erm.......

I would've taken Henne or Brohm or OL. We have defense.

lmao. ok.  while  allen and boulware are good and average players, respectively,   madieu williams is a perennial chump.    had you ever seen a steelers-bungles game, you would know this.  the only reason he remotely is still in the league is because kaesviharn was even worse and made him look good in comparison.   hines ward routinely burns this chump with simple slant routes, etc.

HAHAHA, between him and madip*feces* williams you still can't cover a slot receiver.

i agree on QB.  if nothing else, you could have kept them out of your division-- and at least nobody in the division would have a really threatening QB.--- thus minimizing  tlames downside

And the Steelers showed they have no confidence in "Mr. double the fumbles than TD's" by getting Mendenhall. ;)

nope, as omar epps jr  said in the interview , they don't really need a RB  but that he's just way too good to pass up at that draft slot, regardless of lack of need.  basically when a top 10 player is available at 23, you take him. even if you already have 3 of him .

and funny that,  parkers career fumbling stats don't seem to bear out your claim.

Mendenhall:

Maybe you will have 2 RB's that will have double the fumbles than TD's now. ;D

meanwhile, overall they will combine for less total fumbles than peterson will have, and the steelers as a team will put up more overall offensive points than the vikes while playing in a tougher division and conference.  go figure
 [sm_shock]

Fixed. ;)

so is your goal for the vikes to have the best running game in the league or to finally, once, actually go to the playoffs and win the SB?


because honestly,  the latter will not happen with your current roster,  while the former , certainly might.    i guess maybe if i were used to living in the market of teams where winning SBs  isn't routine and commonplace  i wouldn't be hungry for them either, and i would just cheer for meaningless things like best rushing tandems

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/birmingham/content/images/2007/06/29/tunnel_june_07_23_470x320.jpg)

Nah, it's just lame sad funny when the Steelers draft depth, "you can't pass him up" but when the Vikes do it, its the other side of the coin. ;)

so at the end of day 1,  steelers 2008 starting roster looks like




Big Ben (elite)
Parker / Mendenhall/ Davenport / Moore  (elite)
Miller (good-elite)
Holmes (elite), Sweed (?), Ward (good)
Smith-Kemoeatu-Mahan(or Hartwig)-Simmons-Colon (horrible to bad)



Smith, Hampton (good, elite), Kiesel (average)
Woodley, Harrison (good, elite)
Farrior, Foote (good, average)
Taylor, McFadden (good, good)
Polamalu, Clark (good-elite, average-bad)



yet despite this load, they'll be lucky to go 8-8
LOL

the steelers took another 1st round top 10 quality rb to go behind another top 10 quality RB , because he was available at 23.

now yes, more realistically the steelers need to take 3 top 30 quality linemen, none were available at 23. you'd already had the falcons move up to take a consensus mid 2nd rounder Lineman at #21 or whatever it was.

asking any non-biased-vikes-fan, and you will get the consensus observation:
the vikes CLEAR weakest spot is QB. 


they had the chance to take the likely #1 pick from last years draft at QB  (if he had come out, dumb decision in hindsight to stay his senior year!) to replace (or even just backup and provide some 'incentive' competition) for their bottom 5 level QB,  and to only have to spend a mid 2nd round pick to do so.   now you get to see him go against you 2x a year for the next 8-10 years.  by 2011 he'll be picking you apart.

just a slight , slight difference. 








i don't know why you take my criticism of your team , and your players so personally and dismissively-- I don't just make this up or say it out of spite.  I actually would like to see them do ok. (unless it's against the cowboys or steelers anyways)  at the risk of bragging, I would think you would throw at least a slight passing credence to my observations based on my thrashing of the fgi pickem and preseason pools, for instance.

Isa.43
[8] Bring forth the people who are blind, yet have eyes, who are deaf, yet have ears!

well, late 4th round and steelers finally take an OL.   Tony Hills, U Texas.  a LT who might someday transition to guard if he can develop the strength to block on the move.  bigtime questions about leg health

meh.

finally the lions draft a receiver. ::)

 [sm_rolling] [sm_rolling] [sm_rolling] [sm_rolling] [sm_rolling] [sm_rolling] [sm_rolling]

so the vikes DO  go after a QB  , trading up to get   brent mucusburgers man crush,  jon david booty.


wow, someone who will actually make  tlame look good in comparison.
the pass on brohm/henne  is even worse now.

Yet another future Hall Of Famer for the Vikes. :P

wow, amazing he will even get any playing time behind 1st string HOF QB  tlame.
 [sm_shock]

I guess someone will have to play mopup time though.
 ::)

amazing that another "if he came out a year ago"  top 10 pick has slid this far,  -- tommy blake , DE out of TCU.

if he stays on his mind meds,  and can change 15 pounds of gut he gained back into muscle, he can legitimately be a pro bowler.

if i were the steelers, I might even risk the pick instead of taking another OL

STEELERS WTF ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!

wtf.

wtf.

wtf.

wtf.

i give up


stupidest steeler draft ever.

needing depth and improvement on OL, and DL
3 remaining picks

you take:
a gimpy useless QB.
a slow ILB.
and ....

and.... a safety.

ugh.

goodbye 2008 season.

If that's so, then why pick on the Vikes' picks?  Stick with picking on the Steelers'. :D

lol,  the vikes rivaling the steelers for worst drafts this year

AllPro Jared Allen + Tyrell Johnson + John Booty + Letroy Guion + John Sullivan + Jaymar Johnson = great draft. 8)

last time i checked jared allen wasn't part of the draft.
feel free to start a thread about offseason trades/ free agency moves

lolz, last time I checked Jared Allen was part of our draft, as the only thing we traded for him was draft picks.

Hey. Hey. give him a break. He's a Duck.

Actually, if he recovers from the knee injury, you are going to very happy to have him on your team. Can't have too many QB's.

i thought he had a great season and was a top3 pick for heisman till he got hurt.

my issue with the pick is that theres about a 90% he isn't going to contribute this season at all.  if they want to convert him to WR  or use him for gadget plays, its a long term development with a huge upside, but they really needed another OL    this* year.   if they took him to get rid of charlie batch's contract in a year, thats a good bonus though. 

was he drafted in 2008 by the vikes?

my guess is... no.


acquiring him impacted your draft, yes.  doesn't make him a part of it though.

Of course not. ::)

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/draft/drafttracker/2008/team/MIN

is he on this page?

ok,  let's try this one...

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/team?team=min&draftyear=2008

Yes, it also says if you can't see it, you need glasses. ;) ;D

Admittedly, I need glasses.   :sad3:

Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.

There, now you can read it. ;)