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Title: Mitchell Report - players
Post by: dystopia on December 13, 2007, 11:25:20 AM
I can't believe I'm listening to the press conference on the radio. [sm_anon]
(and reading it online)


Title: Re: Mitchell Report - players
Post by: stroh on December 13, 2007, 11:29:00 AM
I caught about 6 to 8 minutes on the radio over lunch.


Title: Re: Mitchell Report - players
Post by: Fuzzy on December 13, 2007, 11:29:49 AM
Believe it.

I just opened the .pdf from espn.


Title: Re: Mitchell Report - players
Post by: dystopia on December 13, 2007, 11:30:41 AM
Bobby Estalella.  big surprise. ;D


Title: Re: Mitchell Report - players
Post by: dystopia on December 13, 2007, 11:41:26 AM
Partial list:

Marvin Benard
Barry Bonds
Bobby Estalella
Jason Giambi
Jeremy Giambi
Benito Santiago
Gary Sheffield
Randy Velarde
Lenny Dykstra
David Segui
Larry Bigbie
Jack Cust
Tim Laker
Josias Manzanillo
Todd Hundley
Mark Carreon
Hal Morris
Matt Franco
Rondell White
Roger Clemens
Chuck Knoblauch
Jason Grimsley
Greg Zaun
David Justice
Glenallen Hill
Mo Vaughn
Ron Villone
Ryan Franklin
Chris Donnels
Todd Williams
Phil Hiatt
Todd Pratt
Kevin Young
Mike Lansing
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker
Adam Piatt
Miguel Tejada
Jason Christiansen
Mike Stanton
Stephen Randolph
Jack Hairston, Jr.
Paul Lo Duca
Adam Riggs
Bart Miadich
Fernando Vina
Kevin Brown
Eric Gagne
Mike Bell
Matt Herges
Gary Bennett, Jr.
Jim Parque
Brendan Donnelly
Chad Allen
Jeff Williams
Howie Clark
Exavier Logan
Daniel Naulty


Title: Re: Mitchell Report - players
Post by: Seamus on December 13, 2007, 11:59:26 AM
Quote
Josias Manzanillo
Got hit in the 'nads while here with the Mariners (line drive I think) he gets a free pass for life.

A lot bigger names on that partial list than I thought they would pull. The question for me is "OK so now what?".


Title: Re: Mitchell Report - players
Post by: spacey on December 13, 2007, 12:01:15 PM
"OK so now what?".
Indeed.


Title: Re: Mitchell Report - players
Post by: Uisce Beatha on December 14, 2007, 08:35:47 AM
Disclaimer: I seriously know jack squat about baseball.  A mild case of insomnia had me up at 5:00 AM watching Mike & Mike in the Morning.  They had some baseball writer on there who was saying some pretty sane things but he also came out with this notion.  The powers that be have to get involved in creating tests for HGH and so forth because, in part, we need to nip this atrocity in the bud re: high school players possibly getting on the juice these days.  And who better to spearhead this effort?  Why, the United States Congress of course.

Next thing you know John McCain is on there effectively parroting the same sky is falling message. 

So, seriously, how important is it that we need Congress worrying about the 50 jocks (estimate on the way high end I think) in every 5A school who might take this stuff?  What about the 500+ kids who are abusing alcohol, buds and other legal/illegal drugs which certainly aren't appropriate for 15 year olds (if anyone when it comes to cocaine, heroin, etc.)?

Is this going to blow up into a huge over-reaction?

While it's important to fans, has revitalized the under-appreciated asterisk and is a prime ingredient in HOF debates/arguments is this really a matter of federal importance?  Why don't we tackle war, famine, disease, poverty, abuse, torture, crime, environmental change, etc. before we set our sights on the horror that is MLB and other professional sports?

[/wtf]


Title: Re: Mitchell Report - players
Post by: Aske on December 14, 2007, 08:42:50 AM
ub- the gubmint loves stuff like this because it distracts  j6p from noticing/thinking about the real problems out there, especially if j6p is a j6p fanboy (2 extreme examples from fgi spring to mind hehehe)


Title: Re: Mitchell Report - players
Post by: Walfredo on December 14, 2007, 09:04:00 AM
Seriously though what is the point of all this.  Big *goshdarn* surprise Brady Anderson did roids that one year he hit 50 hr out of nowhere.  I can't think of one fly by night 30 -40 hr season that isn't listed in the mitchell report.  Baseball allowed this to happen though so *fudge* em.  I could care less about baseball now and I agree the gov't should concern themselves with say the meth problem that is ruining entire communities for one.  And leave this mess for baseball to clean up themselves. 


Title: Re: Mitchell Report - players
Post by: gleek on December 14, 2007, 09:42:30 AM
One of these things is not like the other.
One of these things just doesn't belong.


http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/scottmi03.shtml



Title: Re: Mitchell Report - players
Post by: gleek on December 14, 2007, 09:49:46 AM
One of these things is not like the other.
One of these things just doesn't belong.


http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/scottmi03.shtml



Not saying that he used roids. It's just another example of a glaring single-season anomaly due to cheating.

I wonder if any batter has gone an entire season using a corked bat without getting caught.


Title: Re: Mitchell Report - players
Post by: stroh on December 14, 2007, 09:53:41 AM
Juan Rincon---> steroids.     How's that workin' out for ya?


Title: Re: Mitchell Report - players
Post by: campy on December 14, 2007, 09:59:15 AM
Seriously though what is the point of all this.  Big *goshdarn* surprise Brady Anderson did roids that one year he hit 50 hr out of nowhere.  I can't think of one fly by night 30 -40 hr season that isn't listed in the mitchell report.  Baseball allowed this to happen though so *fudge* em.  I could care less about baseball now and I agree the gov't should concern themselves with say the meth problem that is ruining entire communities for one.  And leave this mess for baseball to clean up themselves. 

I agree.  To me this was one big waste of time, money, and resources, and I believe sometime in the near future, baseball will rue the public release of this information.


Title: Re: Mitchell Report - players
Post by: Aske on December 14, 2007, 10:19:13 AM
oh, and f.t.r.  wally joyner?   LMAO


Title: Re: Mitchell Report - players
Post by: spacey on December 14, 2007, 11:48:28 AM
wally joyner?   LMAO


Unpossible! Wally's a mormon.


Title: Re: Mitchell Report - players
Post by: birdymaker on December 14, 2007, 08:28:06 PM
wally joyner?   LMAO


Unpossible! Wally's a moron.

fixed it.


Title: Re: Mitchell Report - players
Post by: stroh on December 15, 2007, 07:13:05 AM

finalized it.