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Title: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: Clive on February 11, 2009, 06:32:06 PM
A post elsewhere made me wonder.  Dude said he was taken to lunch by a vendor; they went somewhere that served LARGE portions; he had them box up the leftovers and he walked out with them.

I've been on both ends of the business lunch in my day, and it just strikes me as poor form to scrape the leftovers into a box for the road when someone else is schmoozing you.  Not too distant from going somewhere cheaper and ordering two lunches, one for there and the other to go.

Maybe it's just me, though.


Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: hobbit on February 11, 2009, 07:03:19 PM
Anal retentive lawyers ftl



Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: MFAWG on February 11, 2009, 07:19:17 PM
Put me firmly in the 'poor form' school.

I used to work outside sales in the Tahr Bidness, and I don't think I ever saw anybody do that. I know I'd be embarassed.


Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: stroh on February 11, 2009, 07:30:08 PM
Maybe I'm not tracking.  I don't get it.

The dude was being taken out to lunch by the vendor.  Right?  The vendor was buying him the food. 

He wasn't buying him a lunch limited to just what he could consume at the table.

What were the options?  Leave it, and have it thrown?  Vendor takes the leftovers?  Wow, thanks for buying me some lunch.  Couldn't finish the rest of my pasta, but since you bought it, you might as well take it home.

Vendor dude throws it on his corporate AmEx, what does he care?

Like I said, I'm probably missing your point/take.

I never had a problem with this deal since whenever I met with vendors out, it was cocktails only.  Never any leftover beer.


Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: Uisce Beatha on February 11, 2009, 08:01:30 PM
OK, so Google Images + "starving children in africa" takes us well outside even Golfhos limits of jocularity.   :sad3:

Seriously, in the grand scheme of things, who really gives a *fudge* about left-over take-away decorum?  And if one does, one should reevaluate. 


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Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: MFAWG on February 11, 2009, 08:01:47 PM
The take is it's poor move in a business setting, which is what it is when a vendor buys you lunch.

It just seems tacky.

On edit:

Can I change mine to 'What Uisce Said' ?


Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: twoiron on February 11, 2009, 08:06:02 PM
Definately poor form.

You just don't do that *feces*, regardless if it's being paid with a Corporate Amex or Diners card.


Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: stroh on February 11, 2009, 08:10:36 PM
[uneducated hick]   [sm_anon] :bricks: Had no idea.   Well, luckily the events won't present themselves in my lifetime. [/uneducated hick]


Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: spacey on February 11, 2009, 08:26:50 PM
Having been in similar situations many times, I can say that never once have I left with a doggie bag. Make of it what you will.


Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: Gamma Pi on February 11, 2009, 09:10:30 PM
Put me down for "poor form", but it wouldn't leave a permanent scar if it was his own leftovers that he boxed. Over the line and plain creepy if he boxed everyone's.  [sm_disgust]

I've had the following happen to me, recently:

1. Client orders dessert, which is fine... but not to go.  [sm_devil]

2. Client chooses the restaurant, a smoky dive sports bar with uncomfortable chairs, wobbly tables, fugly waitresses, Judge Judy on the TV and salmonella as a salad dressing. I pay the bill and he hands the waitress his "buy one get one" card so that he can score a free lunch there later in the week.


Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: Walfredo on February 12, 2009, 06:31:07 AM
I'm in the same camp as the uneducated hick.  Never thought about it being tacky or poor form on a business lunch.  However, I never take home a doggie bag.  I think it is a little strange in any setting. 

Now Gamma Pi's scenario # 2 is really strange. 


Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: Blader on February 12, 2009, 06:34:59 AM


2. Client chooses the restaurant, a smoky dive sports bar with uncomfortable chairs, wobbly tables, fugly waitresses, Judge Judy on the TV and salmonella as a salad dressing. I pay the bill and he hands the waitress his "buy one get one" card so that he can score a free lunch there later in the week.

Wow! That is one serious sensor defect.  

In my book, a guy like that rates right there with the boss who's all handsy with the secretarial pool.

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Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: Clive on February 12, 2009, 06:43:25 AM
Seriously, in the grand scheme of things, who really gives a *fudge* about left-over take-away decorum?  And if one does, one should reevaluate.
This from the guy who posts about whether it's "whisky" or "whiskey".
 [sm_shock] [sm_enguard] [sm_devil]

Seriously, we could say that about essentially EVERY topic here.  And then what would friends have left to casually discuss?



Stroh, the schmoozer typically is providing a meal.  It's a favor thing, and loading a pack mule on his dime just seemed to be a bit tacky to me.


Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: stroh on February 12, 2009, 06:50:22 AM

Stroh, the schmoozer typically is providing a meal.  It's a favor thing, and loading a pack mule on his dime just seemed to be a bit tacky to me.


Ok.  I guess I get that.  And I don't disagree that in the way described, yeah it's tacky and in poor form.

I guess I'm just hung up on the alternatives. 


Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: Aske on February 12, 2009, 08:07:18 AM
business lunches are inherently no win situations


Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: stroh on February 12, 2009, 09:04:58 AM
The O/P remarked that this establishment served large portions.

So, business etiquettes and protocol dictate that I come off as looking wantonly improvident as to avoid looking like a *8==>*?


Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: Clive on February 12, 2009, 10:38:40 AM
I'm sorry, but "wantonly improvident" and "uneducated redneck" do not compute.

And you meant "wonton" -- they were having Chinese.


Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: stroh on February 12, 2009, 10:43:57 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: hobbit on February 12, 2009, 10:45:00 AM
Taking home a 'doggie bag' can be tacky.  But its not like the person ordered extra on purpose, seems it was the normal lunch portion for that establishment - so tacky perhaps, but tacky enough to post on a golf forum?  HTFU  ;)


I have had numerous instances were I was offered, and even given without asking, things to take with me from a business lunch.  So, perhaps I deal with a different class of schmooze.

That said - if they ordered extra just to take home or performed any of the acts that gammapi has listed - they are classless douches.



Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: geo1 on February 12, 2009, 01:44:40 PM
[uneducated hick]   [sm_anon] :bricks: Had no idea.   Well, luckily the events won't present themselves in my lifetime. [/uneducated hick]

I'm with stroh.


Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: geo1 on February 12, 2009, 01:48:18 PM
I'm sorry, but "wantonly improvident" and "uneducated redneck" do not compute.

And you meant "wonton" -- they were having Chinese.

Well, that solves the problem for me.  Never left a good Chinese joint with the leftovers, cuz I make damn sure there ain't no such thing. ;D


Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: Uisce Beatha on February 12, 2009, 04:45:38 PM
Seriously, in the grand scheme of things, who really gives a *fudge* about left-over take-away decorum?  And if one does, one should reevaluate.
This from the guy who posts about whether it's "whisky" or "whiskey".
 [sm_shock] [sm_enguard] [sm_devil]

Seriously, we could say that about essentially EVERY topic here.  And then what would friends have left to casually discuss?

Fire in the hole!!!   [sm_devil]

So your outrage trumps my incense?  You silly, silly man.



Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: Blader on February 13, 2009, 06:42:47 AM
The reason it is tacky is because an important element of a proper business lunch, so to say, is unzipping the fly and throwing the joneses on to the table, to make comparisons and declarative statements of dominance in the business relationship, and whatnot.

I mean, the 3 martini lunch has far more to do with one-upsmanship than with frank alcoholism. 

The only situation in which a doggie bag is proper is if you actually are scraping up leftovers from the entire table, and using this to augment the diet of your virile pack of hunting hounds back home, which are kept in an outdoor kennel 24/7/365.25


Title: Re: Business Lunch Protocol
Post by: dystopia on February 13, 2009, 10:00:02 AM
[uneducated hick]   [sm_anon] :bricks: Had no idea.   Well, luckily the events won't present themselves in my lifetime. [/uneducated hick]

I'm with stroh.

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