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Title: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: Fuzzy on April 05, 2007, 05:03:35 PM
O.K. so I need to verify the accuracy of my kick-butt spreadsheet but here's the unofficial standings:

Seamus McDuff      8
Walfredo      9
azsgolf      11
Eagleone      11
Teed      12
Aske      13
BobA      13
Fuzzmental   14
dystopia      14
spaceage      15
stroh      16
Torpedo      16
Clive      20
twoiron      20
E-A-G-L-E   22
wishicouldhit   24
tdcoly      25
wishicouldhitRussell      26
1puttpar      27

Three notes:

Clive and 1puttpar had Faldo and Woosnam respectively. They did not play so the "high score of the day" rule was instituted. This is a friendly contest so I will hear arguments/appeals/etc.

tdcoly - check your inbox. You picked Campbell. I need to know which one. Not a big deal scorewise at this point but I'm going to flip a coin before round two if I don't hear from you.

EDIT: Thanks! Chad it is.

Please let me know, if you're scoring at home, of any discrepancies. Thanks.


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: dystopia on April 05, 2007, 05:18:18 PM
Cool.  My spreadsheet matched all your numbers EXACTLY. 8)


For a while I started thinking that the "high score of the day" score for Faldo and Woosnam was too punitive, and I was going to suggest that they just be given the worst score on a person's team.

But then I realized that it ends up with the same result anyway, the Faldo/Woosnam score would effectively be dropped in either case.


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: Fuzzy on April 05, 2007, 05:22:29 PM
Cool.  My spreadsheet matched all your numbers EXACTLY. 8)


For a while I started thinking that the "high score of the day" score for Faldo and Woosnam was too punitive, and I was going to suggest that they just be given the worst score on a person's team.

But then I realized that it ends up with the same result anyway, the Faldo/Woosnam score would effectively be dropped in either case.

Whoo-hoooo! Cheers to spreadsheets!

On your second point, the two worst picks who golfed were Funk and Villegas. Neither would've changed the scores of the teams in question. But it's not a bad idea.........


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: Torpedo on April 05, 2007, 07:50:13 PM
Cool. 8)


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on April 05, 2007, 08:41:51 PM
8) Kewl!


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: Clive on April 05, 2007, 08:55:43 PM
Note for next time: have people pick an alternate, just in case a team member doesn't even start the tournament for some reason.  Missing the cut should be part of the pool, but a player not even teeing it up ... ?

 [sm_disgust]


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: Fuzzy on April 05, 2007, 09:01:30 PM
That's another good idea. I felt bad about Faldo/Woosnam and I'm trying to think of a way to rectify it.

Maybe coin flip for one of the other players of equal "salary"?





Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: Seamus on April 05, 2007, 09:10:34 PM
Maybe give them the stroke average, CBS said it like 4 times today but I really wasn't paying attention at the time. Had to be around 75-77, couldn't be too hard to figure out.

Maybe we should have a cut of our teams for the weekend, down to 4, if you're lucky enough to have 4 make the real cut.

*EDIT*
Just checked the Masters web page, stroke average today was 76.
That is all.


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: 1puttpar on April 05, 2007, 10:13:12 PM
Note for next time: have people pick an alternate, just in case a team member doesn't even start the tournament for some reason.  Missing the cut should be part of the pool, but a player not even teeing it up ... ?

 [sm_disgust]

What he said.

 [sm_disgust]

From the "official" rules:

Any player who withdraws after beginning play, is disqualified, or misses the cut will receive the highest score of the day for each day he does not compete

Since Woosnam and Faldo did not withdraw after beginning play, there should be some equitable alternative, IMHO.



Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: Clive on April 06, 2007, 04:55:56 AM
Since Woosnam and Faldo did not withdraw after beginning play, there should be some equitable alternative, IMHO.
A dozen new ProV1x balls would go a long way with me.


(Into the woods or water, sure, but a long way nonetheless.)


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: Fuzzy on April 06, 2007, 06:37:07 AM
Note for next time: have people pick an alternate, just in case a team member doesn't even start the tournament for some reason.  Missing the cut should be part of the pool, but a player not even teeing it up ... ?

 [sm_disgust]

What he said.

 [sm_disgust]

From the "official" rules:

Any player who withdraws after beginning play, is disqualified, or misses the cut will receive the highest score of the day for each day he does not compete

Since Woosnam and Faldo did not withdraw after beginning play, there should be some equitable alternative, IMHO.

I agree. Since this was the first time I've done this I assumed there would be situations arise (such as not having a tie-breaker provision, but I'm working on that :)) And since this is a friendly little competition we should be able to work something out.

Not sure how to pick and alternate but what do you think about this:

Since both Woosnam and Faldo were #2's in salary, I will take the average score of all #2's who played.

So....the scores were 77, 75, 74, 83, 76, 74, 77, 74 which makes the average 76. (i know it 76.25 but I'll round down)

This would change 1putt's score to 24 and Clive's score the 17.

I'll have to think about the "cut". If we continue to do this it almost guarantees you'll have this slot make the cut.


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: Fuzzy on April 06, 2007, 06:38:30 AM
Maybe give them the stroke average, CBS said it like 4 times today but I really wasn't paying attention at the time. Had to be around 75-77, couldn't be too hard to figure out.

Maybe we should have a cut of our teams for the weekend, down to 4, if you're lucky enough to have 4 make the real cut.

*EDIT*
Just checked the Masters web page, stroke average today was 76.
That is all.

Weird. Just read your post.

Stroke average of the field equaled the stroke average of the 8 #2 salary players.  8)


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: Spanky on April 06, 2007, 07:21:50 AM
Note for next time: have people pick an alternate, just in case a team member doesn't even start the tournament for some reason.  Missing the cut should be part of the pool, but a player not even teeing it up ... ?

 [sm_disgust]

What he said.

 [sm_disgust]

From the "official" rules:

Any player who withdraws after beginning play, is disqualified, or misses the cut will receive the highest score of the day for each day he does not compete

Since Woosnam and Faldo did not withdraw after beginning play, there should be some equitable alternative, IMHO.

I agree. Since this was the first time I've done this I assumed there would be situations arise (such as not having a tie-breaker provision, but I'm working on that :)) And since this is a friendly little competition we should be able to work something out.

Not sure how to pick and alternate but what do you think about this:

Since both Woosnam and Faldo were #2's in salary, I will take the average score of all #2's who played.

So....the scores were 77, 75, 74, 83, 76, 74, 77, 74 which makes the average 76. (i know it 76.25 but I'll round down)

This would change 1putt's score to 24 and Clive's score the 17.

I'll have to think about the "cut". If we continue to do this it almost guarantees you'll have this slot make the cut.
I was going to suggest a big pool of jello and speedos and first one out gets par last one out gets 80 but yours works too.


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: Aske on April 06, 2007, 07:48:34 AM
something tells me neither woosnam nor faldo would have shot a 76 yesterday  [sm_devil]


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: 1puttpar on April 06, 2007, 07:54:45 AM
something tells me neither woosnam nor faldo would have shot a 76 yesterday  [sm_devil]

I should have kept my yap shut, I prolly just blew my shot at the Australian goody bag............. :hungry:


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: dystopia on April 06, 2007, 09:29:59 AM
I think taking the average of all the #2s seems like a fair compromise.

I'm not sure what happens going forward, though, do Clive and 1puttpar get to pick replacements or keep going with the average of all #2s for rounds 2-4? (neither of these seems great)

I figured we'd run into a couple of hurdles this time.  Hopefully we can evolve the format so it works better for the next major. (I'm not sure that picking an alternate would work out either unless you pick an alternate for each point level since you'd want the alternate to be the same point-level player)



Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: stroh on April 06, 2007, 09:57:08 AM
Let me refresh everyones memory, and allow you for a moment to relive the pain of a burst testicle under the weighted foot, and smirking grin, of our dear barrister, in a recent contest.  His undaunted prowess, and sly cunning abilities, slpayed they field, gutting all comers, leaving entrails, and widows in his wake.  All the while boasting the spoils of the rape and pillage he perpetrated upon the GolfHos masses.

To this day, he weilds the stolen septre with impunity.



Due to his misfortune, in the latest turn of events, I suggest he seek equity in the fires of hell, and sleep in the belly of the beast.

In short, retribution should find him in the form of:





JACK SQUAT!

(http://home.mchsi.com/~beyondbelief/farley.jpg)

1puttpar can pick again.  He's cool.


 ;D


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: Aske on April 06, 2007, 10:08:50 AM
I think taking the average of all the #2s seems like a fair compromise.

I'm not sure what happens going forward, though, do Clive and 1puttpar get to pick replacements or keep going with the average of all #2s for rounds 2-4? (neither of these seems great)

I figured we'd run into a couple of hurdles this time.  Hopefully we can evolve the format so it works better for the next major. (I'm not sure that picking an alternate would work out either unless you pick an alternate for each point level since you'd want the alternate to be the same point-level player)



i think you should give them the average of any playing past champion over the age of 45 


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: Seamus on April 06, 2007, 10:18:52 AM
I don't know the answer. I typed something and then I read it and it didn't make sense.  ???


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: Seamus on April 06, 2007, 10:22:32 AM
There is no way that all 7 of our "guys" are going to make the cut. Wait until the end of todays round and we could look at things like cutting our teams down to 4 players.


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: Aske on April 06, 2007, 10:26:42 AM
There is no way that all 7 of our "guys" are going to make the cut. Wait until the end of todays round and we could look at things like cutting our teams down to 4 players.

all 7 of mine are in place to still make the cut
 [sm_devil]


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: spacey on April 06, 2007, 11:37:09 AM
Honestly I wouldn't think it too hard (in the future) to pick an alternate at each point level. Then again, perhaps if you pick a player who WDs, them's the breaks, and that's life in the big city.

I could be persuaded either way, but I'm immensely susceptible to peer pressure. Mob rule and group think all the way for me!  [sm_mob]


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: dystopia on April 06, 2007, 11:49:09 AM
Actually, I was thinking about this on my drive to work, and I bet we could get by with picking just one alternate with a restriction of the alternate needing to be a player with 3 pts or less (or something like that)

The point cap on the alternate would be to avoid the situation where someone can pick a 1 point player after looking at the starting tee times and seeing that this person isn't really going to play. Then they'd have their 8 point alternate ready to swap in.


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: dystopia on April 06, 2007, 01:05:07 PM
There is no way that all 7 of our "guys" are going to make the cut. Wait until the end of todays round and we could look at things like cutting our teams down to 4 players.

all 7 of mine are in place to still make the cut
 [sm_devil]

wow, nice picks so far, Aske.  Couples has a lot of golf yet to play. [sm_devil]


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: Aske on April 06, 2007, 01:13:20 PM
There is no way that all 7 of our "guys" are going to make the cut. Wait until the end of todays round and we could look at things like cutting our teams down to 4 players.

all 7 of mine are in place to still make the cut
 [sm_devil]

wow, nice picks so far, Aske.  Couples has a lot of golf yet to play. [sm_devil]


well, after my ncaa pool, i could only show improvement
 [sm_devil]


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: Torpedo on April 06, 2007, 01:16:56 PM
well, after my ncaa pool, i could only show improvement
 [sm_devil]

True dat.










;) :D [sm_hide]


Title: Re: Unofficial "official" Masters Pool First Round Standings
Post by: dystopia on April 06, 2007, 02:29:03 PM
There is no way that all 7 of our "guys" are going to make the cut. Wait until the end of todays round and we could look at things like cutting our teams down to 4 players.

all 7 of mine are in place to still make the cut
 [sm_devil]

wow, nice picks so far, Aske.  Couples has a lot of golf yet to play. [sm_devil]


well, after my ncaa pool, i could only show improvement
 [sm_devil]


Uhoh, I might have jinxed Couples.  :-[