Title: jazz fan(s) Post by: Aske on May 20, 2007, 10:05:18 AM http://cbs.sportsline.com/nba/headtohead/team-headtohead/UTA/SA
is this really right? Utah averaged over the season 92 ppg and allowed 95? i suppose it's possible, but to win 50+ games out of 80, and trail the season stats by 3 ppg ? ??? Title: Re: jazz fan(s) Post by: spacey on May 20, 2007, 10:40:37 AM Hmm. It's possible, as they won a lot of really close games and lost a few blowouts. I guess I have to trust the stat weenies to know what they're talking about.
Title: Re: jazz fan(s) Post by: Aske on May 20, 2007, 10:45:59 AM Hmm. It's possible, as they won a lot of really close games and lost a few blowouts. I guess I have to trust the stat weenies to know what they're talking about. {being lazy} i'm sure it could be right, but wow. so, 3 ppg, 80 games (rounding)... -240 points for the season 30 losses... -8 per loss (average) of course, they won 50 games (at least by 1 point each, and rounding)... +50 so then, assuming a best case scenario for this... differential of at least 290 then, so they actually lost those 30 games on average by at least 9.7 ppg if they won games by an average of 3 points, then the differential goes to about 390, and then about 13 ppg in the losses... again, i'm sure it is right... it is just an amazing stat. (win 62% of your games close, lose 38% in blowouts ... on average...) Title: Re: jazz fan(s) Post by: Aske on May 20, 2007, 10:56:36 AM well , my curiosity got the better of me, and I clicked on the jazz schedule from cbs.
the #'s dont match up Result Utah OPP Wins Losses Won 107 97 10 Won 108 104 4 Won 106 82 24 Won 103 101 2 Lost 89 96 -7 Won 107 100 7 Won 113 111 2 Won 112 90 22 Won 118 109 9 Won 120 117 3 Won 101 96 5 Won 110 101 9 Won 114 108 6 Lost 78 91 -13 Lost 75 88 -13 Won 83 75 8 Lost 102 132 -30 Won 109 107 2 Won 101 88 13 Lost 103 110 -7 Won 101 79 22 Won 105 86 19 Lost 97 98 -1 Won 104 94 10 Lost 96 97 -1 Won 112 106 6 Lost 89 101 -12 Won 100 97 3 Won 102 92 10 Lost 83 106 -23 Won 96 86 10 Won 98 87 11 Lost 86 100 -14 Won 96 84 12 Lost 105 108 -3 Lost 114 122 -8 Lost 110 119 -9 Lost 111 114 -3 Won 100 99 1 Won 102 94 8 Won 95 85 10 Won 106 91 15 Lost 130 132 -2 Won 116 111 5 Lost 83 94 -11 Lost 115 116 -1 Won 97 93 4 Won 108 105 3 Won 100 95 5 Won 104 102 2 Won 102 76 26 Won 99 98 1 Lost 100 103 -3 Won 114 104 10 Won 105 87 18 Lost 94 102 -8 Won 104 88 16 Won 109 83 26 Won 108 94 14 Won 120 95 25 Won 94 72 22 Won 96 86 10 Lost 86 88 -2 Lost 90 101 -11 Lost 88 89 -1 Lost 73 82 -9 Won 104 100 4 Lost 72 104 -32 Won 118 108 10 Won 103 97 6 Won 108 102 6 Lost 93 102 -9 Won 86 83 3 Lost 89 94 -5 Lost 103 107 -4 Lost 103 106 -3 Lost 102 126 -24 Lost 106 115 -9 Won 104 89 15 Lost 98 126 -28 Won 130 93 37 Won 101 91 10 101.4878049 98.62195122 541 -306 2.865853659 2.865853659 wins(avg, stdev) losses (avg, stdev) 10.60784314 -9.870967742 8.02017065 8.853405881 Title: Re: jazz fan(s) Post by: spacey on May 20, 2007, 11:16:42 AM I'll never trust the stat weenies again. :sad3:
Title: Re: jazz fan(s) Post by: stroh on May 20, 2007, 11:54:53 AM I'll never trust the stat weenies again. :sad3: There's a 50% chance that's not true. Title: Re: jazz fan(s) Post by: Aske on May 20, 2007, 12:19:44 PM I'll never trust the stat weenies again. :sad3: There's a 50% chance that's not true. 88.234709% of people know this. (7.1234987% of those named stroh) Title: Re: jazz fan(s) Post by: gleek on May 20, 2007, 06:14:09 PM It would be very tough to win 62% of your games and be outscored by an average of 3 PPG. On the other hand, it is apparently possible to lead the conference in scoring differential yet finish in 3rd place in your own division.
Witness the Chicago Bulls, who finished behind Detroit AND Cleveland, but lead the Eastern Conference in scoring differential with a +5.0. How did they do it? They beat Miami 108-66 on 10/31/06, beat Memphis 111-66 on 01/13/07, beat New York 98-69 on 04/10/07, and beat Washington 101-68 on 04/15/07--four games in which the opponent scored less than 70. I'm surprised I didn't hear about any controversy over the Bulls running up the score. OTOH, the Spurs lead the league in defense AND scoring differential, yet they didn't hold any opponent to under 70 points. IOW, they probably didn't try to rub it in the faces of their opponents when the game was in hand. |