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Title: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Uisce Beatha on April 03, 2008, 06:41:09 AM
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080402-apple-passes-wal-mart-now-1-music-retailer-in-us.html

Apple #1 in retail music sales.  Imagine how you would have been laughed at saying that 10 years ago.

This is the bit that struck me.

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According to NPD's research, 48 percent of US teens didn't buy a single CD in 2007, compared to 38 percent in 2006.

[sm_shock]

Also this.

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Buying patterns for digital downloads are different, as customers are far more likely to cherry pick a favorite track or two from an album than purchase the whole thing.

Pretty much a Capt. Obvious moment but I wanted to paraphrase Aske - craptastic filler tracks ftl.


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Spanky on April 03, 2008, 06:57:33 AM
First off WTF is ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO?

B: On topic this doesn't surprise me at all if true. It makes sense to me.


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Aske on April 03, 2008, 07:05:53 AM
First off WTF is ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO?


ITMS FTW OMG RO(t)FLMAO

better?


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Spanky on April 03, 2008, 07:08:21 AM
First off WTF is ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO?


ITMS FTW OMG RO(t)FLMAO

better?

[sm_oops]


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Aske on April 03, 2008, 07:11:35 AM
First off WTF is ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO?


ITMS FTW OMG RO(t)FLMAO

better?

[sm_oops]



Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Walfredo on April 03, 2008, 07:13:10 AM
I'll admit to using I-tunes as one of the sources I use to acquire music.  Generally, if I buy something though I buy the whole album.  My wife is more apt to buy a single or two off an album.  9.99 isn't bad for a new cd not to mention the time saved.  I still check out the local record stores for used cd's especially the more obscure ones.  


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Spanky on April 03, 2008, 07:20:20 AM
First off WTF is ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO?


ITMS FTW OMG RO(t)FLMAO

better?

[sm_oops]



Once you split it up I got it. Maybe I'm not smarter then stroh.


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Fuzzy on April 03, 2008, 07:22:59 AM
I rarely download whole CD's.

I just look at my kids and realize they are already at the point where CD's to them are like vinyl to me.


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Seamus on April 03, 2008, 08:42:55 AM
When I see this, it just reminds me of the whys and the hows of why I have been looking for work for one year now (one *goshdarn* year  :sad3:), kinda like the theory of trickle down economics. This is essentially the effect, the cause was poor leadership and a lack of a little clairvoyance (if you follow).

Less people buying cd's + less people listening to the radio = Seamus out of a jog squared.
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/gvandel454/Rock%20Stuff/willgolf.jpg)


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Aske on April 03, 2008, 08:51:38 AM
When I see this, it just reminds me of the whys and the hows of why I have been looking for work for one year now (one *goshdarn* year  :sad3:), kinda like the theory of trickle down economics. This is essentially the effect, the cause was poor leadership and a lack of a little clairvoyance (if you follow).

Less people buying cd's + less people listening to the radio = Seamus out of a jog squared.
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/gvandel454/Rock%20Stuff/willgolf.jpg)

while the cd IS an outdate model for mass-market music distribution,  surely you'd also argue:

the clear channel effect
and
the dilution of overall artistic vision and talent


are huge factors too ?


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: gleek on April 03, 2008, 08:57:52 AM
iR5zJOZd8Ms.


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: 1puttpar on April 03, 2008, 09:00:05 AM
When I see this, it just reminds me of the whys and the hows of why I have been looking for work for one year now (one *goshdarn* year  :sad3:), kinda like the theory of trickle down economics. This is essentially the effect, the cause was poor leadership and a lack of a little clairvoyance (if you follow).

Less people buying cd's + less people listening to the radio = Seamus out of a jog squared.
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/gvandel454/Rock%20Stuff/willgolf.jpg)

while the cd IS an outdate model for mass-market music distribution,  surely you'd also argue:

the clear channel effect
and
the dilution of overall artistic vision and talent


are huge factors too ?

Don't forget P2P as well


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Fuzzy on April 03, 2008, 09:03:06 AM
When I see this, it just reminds me of the whys and the hows of why I have been looking for work for one year now (one *goshdarn* year  :sad3:), kinda like the theory of trickle down economics. This is essentially the effect, the cause was poor leadership and a lack of a little clairvoyance (if you follow).

Less people buying cd's + less people listening to the radio = Seamus out of a jog squared.
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/gvandel454/Rock%20Stuff/willgolf.jpg)

while the cd IS an outdate model for mass-market music distribution,  surely you'd also argue:

the clear channel effect
and
the dilution of overall artistic vision and talent


are huge factors too ?

Clear Channel effect  - Yes. One thousand times yes in this market at least.

artistic vision and talent I would tend to disagree only due to the fact of the Clear Channel effect. How would one know this if all they have is the crap served up daily on the radio. I tend to believe the artists and talent are out there. It's just not as accessible.


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Aske on April 03, 2008, 09:04:58 AM
When I see this, it just reminds me of the whys and the hows of why I have been looking for work for one year now (one *goshdarn* year  :sad3:), kinda like the theory of trickle down economics. This is essentially the effect, the cause was poor leadership and a lack of a little clairvoyance (if you follow).

Less people buying cd's + less people listening to the radio = Seamus out of a jog squared.
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/gvandel454/Rock%20Stuff/willgolf.jpg)

while the cd IS an outdate model for mass-market music distribution,  surely you'd also argue:

the clear channel effect
and
the dilution of overall artistic vision and talent


are huge factors too ?

Don't forget P2P as well

is the 'success' of ITMS/amazon/etc so far proof that people are willing to pay a 'fair' amount for the songs they actually want?


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Aske on April 03, 2008, 09:05:45 AM

Clear Channel effect  - Yes. One thousand times yes in this market at least.

artistic vision and talent I would tend to disagree only due to the fact of the Clear Channel effect. How would one know this if all they have is the crap served up daily on the radio. I tend to believe the artists and talent are out there. It's just not as accessible.

there's a reason I put the chicken before the egg. i think.


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Seamus on April 03, 2008, 09:08:13 AM
Factors? Yes.

You can also argue the Sirius/XM effect, our people didn't want to admit it at the time, and prolly still won't.

Also the explosion of talk radio, we kept trying to mass market some kind of niche show that never really panned out, failed shows included a Marie Osmond attempt, a sci fi/conspiracy attempt much like Art Bell, and now I understand they're trying a rock themed show with Greg Kihn Greg *goshdarn* Kihn are you kidding me? he hasn't been relevant in 20 years, this is the lack of vision I'm talking about. On a side note we had one of THE most successful talk shows on radio, freakin' DELILAH, when her contract came up we didn't/couldn't match the offer (rumored to be 10 million per year x 5 years), her leaving us can also be linked to "The Companies" demise.

I'm not going to touch the dilution of artistic vision and talent, music over the last fifteen years has become so fragmented regarding genres that it seems we literally had fifty different ways to go. The vision we lacked was our own.


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on April 03, 2008, 11:17:56 AM
I still by CDs, and there's never a song I don't like on them. :)


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Seamus on April 03, 2008, 11:30:28 AM
I still by CDs, and there's never a song I don't like on them. :)
So...YOU'RE the one.  ;)


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: spacey on April 03, 2008, 11:40:33 AM
I own somewhere in the neighborhood of 1500 CDs. I think it's safe to say that 1495 or so were purchased prior to 2002. The wife wants the new REM album, but she requires something a bit more tactile than downloading it, so I'll go pick that up sometime this week.

I used to really feel like it was important to have a case, have the artwork, have the liner notes, etc. Somewhere along the way all those things became non-issues in my music purchasing habits.


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Aske on April 03, 2008, 11:58:52 AM
I own somewhere in the neighborhood of 1500 CDs. I think it's safe to say that 1495 or so were purchased prior to 2002. The wife wants the new REM album, but she requires something a bit more tactile than downloading it, so I'll go pick that up sometime this week.

I used to really feel like it was important to have a case, have the artwork, have the liner notes, etc. Somewhere along the way all those things became non-issues in my music purchasing habits.


all that stuff matters to me.
 [sm_devil]


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: gleek on April 03, 2008, 01:20:06 PM
I own somewhere in the neighborhood of 1500 CDs. I think it's safe to say that 1495 or so were purchased prior to 2002. The wife wants the new REM album, but she requires something a bit more tactile than downloading it, so I'll go pick that up sometime this week.

I used to really feel like it was important to have a case, have the artwork, have the liner notes, etc. Somewhere along the way all those things became non-issues in my music purchasing habits.


all that stuff matters to me.
 [sm_devil]

CDork


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Clive on April 03, 2008, 01:35:05 PM
Once you split it up I got it. Maybe I'm not smarter then stroh.
:yield:


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Spanky on April 03, 2008, 01:48:02 PM
Once you split it up I got it. Maybe I'm not smarter then stroh.
:yield:
C?


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: stroh on April 03, 2008, 02:24:33 PM
Once you split it up I got it. Maybe I'm not smarter then stroh.
:yield:

 >:(


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Spanky on April 03, 2008, 02:55:30 PM
Once you split it up I got it. Maybe I'm not smarter then stroh.
:yield:

 >:(
Don't be mad, get even.


Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: twoiron on April 03, 2008, 02:58:33 PM
I passed on this thread at first as the topic appeared to be in Greek, I still maintain it is, but then who am I to judge??



Title: Re: ITMSFTWOMGROFLMAO
Post by: Aske on April 03, 2008, 03:00:23 PM
I passed on this thread at first as the topic appeared to be in Greek, I still maintain it is, but then who am I to judge??



have a souvlaki at lunch for me