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Title: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: Clive on August 01, 2009, 08:52:47 AM
Our somewhat high-end Serta/Sealy has been in service for 13 years now, and it's showing its age.  Time for a new mattress.  So we finally went out to a store or two and draped our Greek-god bodies across all manner of conventional and foam mattresses.  The leader at this point is the Tempur-Pedic, either Classic or Bellafina (probably Classic).  We're getting a reasonably good deal, so don't warn me about the price.

Sleeper One is male, 185 pounds, back sleeper but likes to dabble in side-sleeping and will infrequently resort to stomach-sleeping.  Wears little in bed (ask Campy), doesn't require very much in the way of bed linens, generates above-average body heat but does not himself complain of in-bed heat issues.  Enjoys the sleep of either the innocent or the dead -- not perturbed by anything once out.

Sleeper Two is female, about 125 pounds, incorrigible side-sleeper.  Wears jammies (summer- or winter-weight, depending), must have topsheet and blanket/bedspread on-board ("covers" pressure is a requirement for sleep), steals body heat from Sleeper One, is herself sensitive to temperature.  Wakes at least somewhat when Sleeper One moves, rolls over, or arrives/departs bed; not enough to be awake, but somewhat rousing.

Specific questions:
1. Any recommendations as to mattress construction/brand/type?

2. As to Tempur-Pedics, I'm reading a lot about the foam getting unacceptably softer maybe 2-3 years out.  This phenomenon occurs in a non-warrantied manner, so you're basically stuck with your spendy bed, like it or not.  Anyone here have a foam bed, TP or other brand, long enough to speak to this issue?

3. We're willing to spend this amount for a mattress that'll give us ten+ years of good service.  If a TP won't, though, I'm happy to buy a good mattress that gives five years ... and then replace it five years out, repeating as necessary.  Not sure how the calculus comes out as to buying a middle-range bed every five years v. a TP for [however long it will last] ... thoughts on that strategy?

4. Other.


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: stroh on August 01, 2009, 09:00:26 AM
No interest in a Sleep Number bed?

We have one.  Karen loves it.  We've had it about 8 years with no complaints (Construction, quality, mechanicals, etc.)

I could sleep on an Terrazzo floor and not give a *feces*.


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: stroh on August 01, 2009, 09:03:01 AM
And don't think it went unnoticed that any mention of ****ual performance and or frequency was a glaring and obvious omission on your part.


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: gleek on August 01, 2009, 09:10:49 AM
Have you looked into hotel beds (http://www.whotelsthestore.com/item.asp?curr_item_id=1516&cat_subcat_id=10)?

More (http://www.beddingconcierge.com/)

More (http://www.serta.com/#/hotel-bed-mattress-guest-purchase-program-to-buy-Serta-mattresses/buy-a-serta-hotel-mattress)

Higher coil counts, but not as crazy as a Duxiana.



Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: gleek on August 01, 2009, 09:12:18 AM
And don't think it went unnoticed that any mention of ****ual performance and or frequency was a glaring and obvious omission on your part.

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...will involuntarily willingly resort to stomach-sleeping...


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: stroh on August 01, 2009, 09:23:06 AM
And don't think it went unnoticed that any mention of ****ual performance and or frequency was a glaring and obvious omission on your part.

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...will involuntarily willingly resort to stomach-sleeping...

LMAO!

Ah, indeed.


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: Aske on August 01, 2009, 09:29:59 AM
funny enough, I was thinking of getting a new mattress soon too

anyone ever used a latex mattress?


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: Seamus on August 01, 2009, 10:08:52 AM
We just did this dance 2-3 years ago.

Seconded on the sleep number bed, although that really wasn't a ringing endorsement from Mr. Terrazzo floor LOL... :-\

I heard rumors about the foam beds sleeping very hot, but you usually have a 90 day sleep test to figure that one out. Like everything else there is so much propaganda with these that you really have to go with your gut instinct...and a 90 day sleep warranty  ;)


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: dystopia on August 01, 2009, 10:15:25 AM
From what I remember lennyquai is some sort of mattress expert/guru.


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: gleek on August 01, 2009, 10:15:41 AM
Is natural latex sustainable?


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: Aske on August 01, 2009, 10:16:35 AM
Is natural latex sustainable?

what do you mean


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: gleek on August 01, 2009, 10:17:51 AM
Is natural latex sustainable?

what do you mean


As a natural resource.


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: Aske on August 01, 2009, 10:25:37 AM
Is natural latex sustainable?

what do you mean


As a natural resource.


ahhhhhh   probably not if enough uses are found


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: spacey on August 01, 2009, 10:45:02 AM
We have Tempurpedic pillows. The wife couldn't possibly be happier with them. I find them comfortable enough but I the foam doesn't breathe very much, which means I sweat a lot during the hot summer months. I couldn't imagine sleeping on an entire bed of the stuff, I'd wake up drenched. YMMV.

We bought a Simmons Beautyrest about a year ago and we love it. The commercials with the bowling ball and the glass of wine seem to be pretty truthful. We have somewhat staggered sleep schedules and she never notices when I come to bed and I never notice when she gets up. We barely even know when the other is in bed or isn't. This is particularly helpful since I'm an intermittent insomniac and a bit of an "active sleeper." I no longer keep her awake with it, which was a problem for the first 6 years of our marriage. I'd strongly recommend looking into one.


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: Uisce Beatha on August 01, 2009, 12:34:52 PM
I no longer keep her awake with it, which was a problem for the first 6 years of our marriage.

I got three years of that action.  Then the boy was born.   :sad3:


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: Aske on August 01, 2009, 01:26:07 PM
just so you know ...  sears apparently is running most of their mattresses at 50% off, ending tonight


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: Clive on August 01, 2009, 01:40:55 PM
No pressure, though.  LOL


I'm not finding anything to assuage my concerns about TP resiliency loss.  My gaze swings to latex ...

(throwing grapefruits here)


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: stroh on August 01, 2009, 02:31:26 PM
  My gaze swings to latex ...

(throwing grapefruits here)

LOL  For a good laugh, Google Image latex suit. 

Too much to throw up here.


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: lennyquai on August 01, 2009, 03:58:16 PM
Clive,

shot you my cell # via PM. Don't worry about sales out there right now. Mattress companies are getting killed in this economy.  Sales are always common; in this economy moreso. One of the biggest sales of the year is Labor Day.  Much easier to discuss on the phone. 

Dys - I represent one of the big 3, selling to hotels. Good memory.

Just got down to the beach for a family vacation.  If I don't pick up right away, I will get back to you.


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: Aske on August 01, 2009, 04:43:47 PM
Was amazingly impressed by this (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/50139962) in the store.  When Sal gets back if she likes it I guess we'll get one shortly.   Felt much nicer (firm, yet soft) than the  Sealy foam something or another for $1200 @ Sears.
Wish we could afford something nicer right now.  Meh.


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: Walfredo on August 01, 2009, 06:36:21 PM
Neither the wife or I cared for the Tempur Pedic thingies we tried at a store.  Once in a spot you couldn't move and we thought we would roast on them. 

So we just got a decent firm pillow top which works fine and we won't worry about replacing it when the time comes.  Shutting up and going away now.


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: stroh on August 01, 2009, 06:59:24 PM
Clive,

shot you my cell # via PM. Don't worry about sales out there right now. Mattress companies are getting killed in this economy.  Sales are always common; in this economy moreso. One of the biggest sales of the year is Labor Day.  Much easier to discuss on the phone. 

Dys - I represent one of the big 3, selling to hotels. Good memory.

Just got down to the beach for a family vacation.  If I don't pick up right away, I will get back to you.

What's sells better to hotels?  Durability/performance/coil spring life  or cleanability?


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: Clive on August 01, 2009, 09:08:23 PM
What sells better to hotels?  Durability/performance/coil spring life  or cleanability?
Protein resistance.


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: lennyquai on August 01, 2009, 09:36:59 PM
What sells better to hotels?  Durability/performance/coil spring life  or cleanability?
Protein resistance.

long-term performance/comfort v. price.  In a word, value.  There are some fabrics coming out that do a decent job with, uh, protein "spills." The problem is that you still have holes from the needles in the quilting. You may not see the stain, but the nastiness may be in the upholstery. Most of the brands mandate properties use mattress protectors, though as with mattresses not all protectors are created equal. 


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: Fuzzy on August 02, 2009, 09:27:07 AM
What sells better to hotels?  Durability/performance/coil spring life  or cleanability?
Protein resistance.

long-term performance/comfort v. price.  In a word, value.  There are some fabrics coming out that do a decent job with, uh, protein "spills." The problem is that you still have holes from the needles in the quilting. You may not see the stain, but the nastiness may be in the upholstery. Most of the brands mandate properties use mattress protectors, though as with mattresses not all protectors are created equal. 

[Fuzzy the business traveler] LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA [/Fuzzy the business traveler]

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c189/FuzzyPhotos/SuperStock_1613R-15121.jpg)


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: twoiron on August 02, 2009, 02:01:48 PM
So how's the search for a new workbench working out for you? ;)


Title: Re: New Mattress Needed; Opinions/Advice Sought
Post by: Gamma Pi on August 04, 2009, 06:05:14 AM
Clive... there is always this route...

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Sleeping on a $27,500 bed; Is it the stuff of dreams?

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/bed-sj-tun-2512026-h-stens