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Title: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: Clive on January 19, 2008, 07:29:38 PM
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I have Bellsouth's (pause for the hissing) Netopia 2144N DSL modem and a Linksys WRT54G wireless router.  Things were going just fine, and then the router started oddly resetting itself, giving itself a new name (e.g. linksys_SES_[nnnnn]) and requiring a reset and new configuration to resume proper behavior.  Well, after the second or third self-reset, I bought a new router.  Began installing it tonight via the included EasyLink Advisor CD-ROM.

Problem: I have the Internet only so long as the laptop is connected directly to the DSL modem.  Put the router in the way and everything craters.  Router can't see the Internet.  I can't see the modem (by its IP address), although I CAN see it by IP address when cable-connected directly to it.  Router is live: I can connect to it wirelessly, although it fails to load any site/page I request.

I already looked at the modem and reset its default from "On Demand" to "Always ON", then powered off/on (yet again).  Still nada.

Thoughts?  Other than really long cables?  I'm not big on spending $100 with Bellsouth for their wireless package, which they would come out and install/support.  (The conspiracy theorist in me almost suspects a hiccup to cause aftermarket routers headaches and encourage the package purchase.  Because I already had set my modem to "Always ON", and it's not been reset since.)


Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: gleek on January 19, 2008, 07:41:10 PM
Why don't you return that router and get one with a built-in DSL modem? Then you can dump the Netopia modem too.


Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: dystopia on January 19, 2008, 08:03:46 PM
Quick question:

Does the setup require you to use PPPoE?  (PPPoE will require you to enter a Bellsouth username/password in the router's settings that will get passed along through the modem)

It sounds like you didn't have to do this with your previous router, but it's worth the sanity check.  My current dsl service doesn't use PPPoE, but the one at my previous house did.


Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: dystopia on January 19, 2008, 08:07:02 PM
Here's a dude that has Bellsouth, a Netopia 2241N and a WRT54. (no comma!)

Maybe his solution will help.

http://forums.techguy.org/networking/523336-solved-netopia-dsl-modem-linksys.html
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My ISP is Bellsouth. Not to be disrespectful, but the tech support was not helpful at all.

What I don't know (Terry), do I have to tell my computer that it is PPOe? Also, what should the local IP address be? To access the router I enter 192.168.1.1, but it also lists the local IP as 192.168.1.100 (should that be changed?)

The "new" DSL modem is a Netopia 2241N. The linksys router is WRT54G.

I'm so frustrated! I changed all this simply because I want to have remote access through to my office system, and thought the linksys router would be easier. ANY help is greatly appreciated!!
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Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: dystopia on January 19, 2008, 08:32:56 PM
Another sanity check:

Can you access the dsl modem through a browser and see the settings(bridge/etc.)?

More possibly useful links:
http://forums.linksys.com/linksys/board/message?board.id=Wireless_Routers&message.id=19171
http://forums.linksys.com/linksys/board/message?board.id=Wired_Routers&message.id=3793
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19639284-netopia-2241N006


Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: E-A-G-L-E! on January 19, 2008, 08:54:13 PM
Here's a dude that has Bellsouth, a Netopia 2241N and a WRT54. (no comma!)

Maybe his solution will help.

http://forums.techguy.org/networking/523336-solved-netopia-dsl-modem-linksys.html
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My ISP is Bellsouth. Not to be disrespectful, but the tech support was not helpful at all.

What I don't know (Terry), do I have to tell my computer that it is PPOe? Also, what should the local IP address be? To access the router I enter 192.168.1.1, but it also lists the local IP as 192.168.1.100 (should that be changed?)

The "new" DSL modem is a Netopia 2241N. The linksys router is WRT54G.

I'm so frustrated! I changed all this simply because I want to have remote access through to my office system, and thought the linksys router would be easier. ANY help is greatly appreciated!!
(more...)

I'm no help in this area, however, I would say that TechGuy is definitely the place to go when you have questions and can't find the answers.  Lots of good info there with lots of knowledgeable people. 8)


Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: Clive on January 19, 2008, 09:56:34 PM
Because I'm either brilliant or desperate, I decided to put the modem into bridge mode, power-cycle it and see what happened.  Everything worked.

Spent the last 90 minutes on the upstairs computer, which has been Internet-deprived for weeks until now.  8)


Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: dystopia on January 19, 2008, 10:02:37 PM
woot!
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Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: dystopia on January 19, 2008, 10:16:45 PM
Because I'm either brilliant or desperate, I decided to put the modem into bridge mode, power-cycle it and see what happened.  Everything worked.

Spent the last 90 minutes on the upstairs computer, which has been Internet-deprived for weeks until now.  8)

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Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: Clive on January 19, 2008, 10:35:17 PM
LOL.  Actually, I was checking in on a couple of patent law boards.


Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: gleek on January 19, 2008, 10:36:31 PM
Because I'm either brilliant or desperate, I decided to put the modem into bridge mode, power-cycle it and see what happened.  Everything worked.

Spent the last 90 minutes on the upstairs computer, which has been Internet-deprived for weeks until now.  8)

I used to think power-cycling routers was BS. I just yanked the power plug and plugged it back in immediately. The last time I tried to set up somebody's network, I found out that you really have to wait a few seconds for the damn thing to work.


Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: spacey on January 19, 2008, 10:56:19 PM
LOL.  Actually, I was checking in on a couple of patent law boards.
Whatever does it for you.


Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: campy on January 20, 2008, 06:02:14 AM
LOL.  Actually, I was checking in on a couple of patent leather chaps boards.
Whatever does it for you.
:-X


Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: stroh on January 20, 2008, 07:11:50 AM
What's a router?


Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: birdymaker on January 20, 2008, 07:31:11 AM
What's a router?

the ones that work have really long cables.


Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: Aske on January 20, 2008, 07:42:11 AM
i have a weird issue with mine sometimes

when the laptop goes into whatever winblows mode it does when you close the screen down for a couple of hours...  the wireless doesnt work when you come back on.   it gives the 'green bars', says you're connected, can list available networks, but doesn't actually send packets.   the router itself lists the mac address as still attached.   bizarre. reboot the machine, works perfect again.


Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: stroh on January 20, 2008, 08:50:29 AM
What's a router?

the ones that work have really long cables.

Found one without cables. 




Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: Aske on January 20, 2008, 09:03:45 AM
What's a router?

the ones that work have really long cables.

Found one without cables. 




why do you hate  p'ophile


Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: gleek on January 20, 2008, 09:35:32 AM
i have a weird issue with mine sometimes

when the laptop goes into whatever winblows mode it does when you close the screen down for a couple of hours...  the wireless doesnt work when you come back on.   it gives the 'green bars', says you're connected, can list available networks, but doesn't actually send packets.   the router itself lists the mac address as still attached.   bizarre. reboot the machine, works perfect again.

A similar thing happens to my machine except that it's no longer connected to the network. The wireless adapter simply appears to be dead (i.e. no flashing light). Nothing fixes the problem except for a reboot, and often times Windows locks up during the shutdown process. It only recently started happening though.


Title: Re: Router Connectivity Woes
Post by: stroh on January 20, 2008, 10:06:49 AM
What's a router?

the ones that work have really long cables.

Found one without cables. 




why do you hate  p'ophile

I never had any problem with him.  Except I thought voyeuring  women at Olive Garden is lame.   ;D