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I think this could definitely be part of the reasoning there.  Shooting a gun doesn't cause you to loose control of your body, but drinking alcohol certainly can.

and he can't get a gay abortion without his parent's consent unless he is married, in masschuse*><><><*.

Those America hating Marines are trying to change this.

18 year olds are allowed to vote as well.

I like this little nugget from Madison courtesy of wikipedia:

"Let a regular army, fully equal to the resources of the country, be formed; and let it be entirely at the devotion of the federal government; still it would not be going too far to say, that the State governments, with the people on their side, would be able to repel the danger. The highest number to which, according to the best computation, a standing army can be carried in any country, does not exceed one hundredth of the whole number of souls; or one twenty-fifth part of the number able to bear arms. This proportion would not yield, in the United States, an army of more than twenty-five or thirty thousand men. To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by men chosen from among themselves, fighting for their common liberties, and united and conducted by governments possessing their affections and confidence. It may well be doubted, whether a militia thus circumstanced could ever be conquered by such a proportion of regular troops"

Then Webster
"Tyranny is the exercise of some power over a man, which is not warranted by law, or necessary for the public safety. A people can never be deprived of their liberties, while they retain in their own hands, a power sufficient to any other power in the state.

Another source of power in government is a military force. But this, to be efficient, must be superior to any force that exists among the people, or which they can command; for otherwise this force would be annihilated, on the first exercise of acts of oppression. Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States"


These quotes make it pretty clear IMO the 2nd amendment was more about fighting a tyrannical gov't than protecting youself hence the well regulated militia to secure a free state mumbo jumbo.  I'd say these guys underestimated the power the federal gov't would have 200 some odd years away.  Does anyone really believe that the "people" could rise up and overthrow our gov't if they wanted?  I mean those slimmy bastages have already made it illegal for us to have explosives and bombs and such.  I'd say in this case Madison was way off.  A bunch of farmers with pitchforks, pistols or even sub-machine guns would just get themselves killed quickly trying to defeat our military.  So yes you could argue the 2nd amendment was also about the common law idea of the right to self-protection, but then why qualify as they did?  I say we overthrow the gov't guys and put the 2nd amendment to good use.  I mean did we really sign up for this bull*feces* representative republic they call a democracy any ways.  Who's with me?

AKA Cocked-tails.

So is smoking guns.

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Hobbits are peaceful creatures unless angered.

I hide my guns and my pikes in the thatch.