No smoking on golf courses?

You seem to have missed the second part of my post where I essentially posited the same opinion regarding open spaces.  As both of your scenarios take place in open spaces I'll be glad to repost it for you.


Emphasis added by aforementioned Seamus.


Your use of "particularly" leads me to believe you also think the non-smoker should exercise his right to move any time someone is subjecting him to the excesses of their habit.  Indeed, the smoker's rights take precedence to some degree under any circumstances and particularly if the public place is large?  I might be reading that wrong. 

I think that smoking near the entrance of a public place is not a right you have to the exclusion of my right to walk through the doors without breathing your second-hand smoke.  To be accurate, the word "right" isn't what I want to say.  Somehow I'd like to work the word "consideration" in there instead.

Also not complicated.

Indeed, the smoker's rights take precedence to some degree under any circumstances and particularly if the public place is large?

To a certain extent: YES, presuming that I'm in an appropriate place.

If it's a designated smoking area, or even an area that's not designated no smoking, guess what: I have a right as a person over 18 to consume a product that is sold legally all over the planet.

Don't like it? Tough *feces*.

I didn't used to be this 'hard line' about, preferring instead to use the rules of common courtesy, but that went out the window a long, long time ago thanks to whiney nanny state types that think they need to protected from everything.

As something of a libertarian with regards to what people do to and with their bodies, I also take the position that your rights end where mine begin. I cannot possibly disagree more with the idea that "if you don't like my smoking, you're free to stand somewhere else." To me, that's as bad as "if you don't like listening to my music, roll up your window," or "if you don't like me running my weed whacker at 5:00 a.m. live somewhere else."

As an occasional smoker, I feel it's my obligation to do it in a manner that it doesn't bother others. If that means walking 20-30 yards away, I will. If it means not smoking because there's nowhere convenient to go where it won't bother someone, I won't smoke.

While I tend to disagree with them, the reason for public smoking bans in "open areas" is fairly clear to me: not everyone can be trusted to obey the rule of common courtesy. People smoke while standing in line, they smoke in the middle of crowds, they smoke in groups in the middle of public thoroughfares, etc. If everyone could be counted on in every circumstance to not be a *8==>*, there would be no reason to ban smoking in public areas. Unfortunately the *8==>*s seem to have us outnumbered.

Seamus has a persecution complex.

In the future please use the name *8==>* Gozinya for all imaginary scenarios.