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Re: New A/V receiver?
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2007, 04:55:27 PM »

UB: in a way there is .  if you have the $ and the desire, you are probably buying a master AVR that functions as a switching/preamp to a dedicated stereo power amp which is connected to different speakers than the ones for your HT.

those of us on a more modest budget just get the best middle ground compromise we can.....

Understood.  In following the thread it seems that the last few extras Rick wants takes him up a notch in price.  I just wonder if he'd really be getting much for his dollars and wouldn't be better off giving it a pass.  Especially considering the source format.


Well, like I said - I'm considering it.  I learned long ago that a few dollars is well worth it, vs. my time and effort it may take to accomplish something another way.  I'm just not a good geek anymore - I place more value on my time than I used to.  In the past I may have happily spent 40+ hours getting something working just the way I want it to.  Now, I'll just pay to have it done and move onto better things.  Just depends upon the situation.

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« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2007, 05:01:02 PM »

no matter what you do, make sure you have bi-wireable fronts.   until some 7.1 movies actually come out you might as well those 2 extra channels power and crank it into the fronts.
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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2007, 05:06:08 PM »

*goshdarn* geeks.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2007, 05:12:15 PM »

*goshdarn* geeks.  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2007, 05:28:27 PM »

Speaking of geeks, why haven't any of the standards geeks come up with a specification that will allow a single connector handle audio, video, data, and power all through one cable? Then all the A/V components can be wired to a single control unit with a single cable and you won't have that gawdful wiring mess that you usually have in an A/V set-up.
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« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2007, 05:39:02 PM »

gleek-  hdmi 1.3 offers high bandwidth audio and video together.   as for power, the couple of EE courses I took make me think it would cause too much interference, hence requiring way too much insulation and hence cost in the cable.  also doesnt the ground need to be different between the digital streams and the power? 

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« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2007, 06:03:09 PM »

gleek-  hdmi 1.3 offers high bandwidth audio and video together.   as for power, the couple of EE courses I took make me think it would cause too much interference, hence requiring way too much insulation and hence cost in the cable.  also doesnt the ground need to be different between the digital streams and the power? 




Not necessarily - i.e. 802.3af, power over Ethernet.  Only 15.4W under today's spec though - could be an interference threshold, but my bet is its a cable size and distance issue.

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« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2007, 07:10:37 PM »

gleek-  hdmi 1.3 offers high bandwidth audio and video together.   as for power, the couple of EE courses I took make me think it would cause too much interference, hence requiring way too much insulation and hence cost in the cable.  also doesnt the ground need to be different between the digital streams and the power? 

Couldn't you just have multiple grounds going through different wires/pins? I wouldn't care if the outer cable jacket has to be 1/2" in diameter in order for the individual wires inside to be properly shielded or if the connector had to be as large as a Centronics cable connector. It would still be better than having a tangled mess back there.
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« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2007, 08:38:38 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2007, 03:18:11 AM »

gleek-  hdmi 1.3 offers high bandwidth audio and video together.   as for power, the couple of EE courses I took make me think it would cause too much interference, hence requiring way too much insulation and hence cost in the cable.  also doesnt the ground need to be different between the digital streams and the power? 

Couldn't you just have multiple grounds going through different wires/pins? I wouldn't care if the outer cable jacket has to be 1/2" in diameter in order for the individual wires inside to be properly shielded or if the connector had to be as large as a Centronics cable connector. It would still be better than having a tangled mess back there.
While it is possible Aske hit the nail with interference. The problem is more of a shielding issue. What you have to remember is that a cable that caries a signal also generates a magnetic field. This magnetic field will induce a signal in the other wires, thus noise. In order to prevent this the cable has to have a shield. Think about the wire used for cable tv. There is only one wire in that, the rest is shielding. You would have to combine several of these wires to accomplish what you are asking so the one wire would be like 3" in diameter.
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« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2007, 12:45:59 PM »

OK, looks like the Onkyo TX-SR805 if I don't need Ethernet streaming, or the Denon 3808Ci if I decide I do.

Need to find the time to install Ubuntu and get Myth up and running.  If it works the way I anticipate, I won't need the Ethernet streaming.  If it turns out to be more trouble then its worth.......  Embarrassed

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« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2007, 01:16:57 PM »

OK, looks like the Onkyo TX-SR805 if I don't need Ethernet streaming, or the Denon 3808Ci if I decide I do.

Need to find the time to install Ubuntu and get Myth up and running.  If it works the way I anticipate, I won't need the Ethernet streaming.  If it turns out to be more trouble then its worth.......  Embarrassed



nice (jealous mode on) I have the 705.  wanted the 805 (definitely more of a workhorse all around) but decided I don't really need the extra wattage anytime soon ....  700W @ highcurrent biwired 5.1 in a 300sqft room plus  300W sub is pretty loud at -15dB to reference for pretty much all recordings I own...... and all the other features were not interesting to me (although this is probably just me)     definitely good to get in on HDMI switching and have all the nice future audio codecs (DTS HD-MA rules ass) available processing
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« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2007, 04:33:37 PM »

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Re: New A/V receiver?
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2007, 04:41:40 PM »

amazing just how far behind the curve I am.
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« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2007, 04:42:15 PM »

amazing just how far behind the curve I am.

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