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Re: Intellectual Trans-Gendering -- How Do You Fare?
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2007, 07:54:31 PM » |
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I think Clive's question has some merit to it now. Many responses of being looked upon differently, albeit having the same level of intelligence, and character.
I still think (although wondering how you would be received is difficult, and begs the question*, how am I perceived now? Is it really the way I think?) My case would not be that different. Instead of them ignoring my personnel rants about the vikings, the would actually be inviting me to the purse party this Friday.
*I still don't understand it's proper use.
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Re: Intellectual Trans-Gendering -- How Do You Fare?
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2007, 08:00:43 PM » |
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Re: Intellectual Trans-Gendering -- How Do You Fare?
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2007, 08:03:54 PM » |
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I think Clive's question has some merit to it now. Many responses of being looked upon differently, albeit having the same level of intelligence, and character.
I still think (although wondering how you would be received is difficult, and begs the question*, how am I perceived now? Is it really the way I think?) My case would not be that different. Instead of them ignoring my personnel rants about the vikings, the would actually be inviting me to the purse party this Friday.
*I still don't understand it's proper use.
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/begs.htmlAlso, http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/its.html  so, (thanks, gleek, fuzzy) To use it at all, is to use it incorrectly? |
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Re: Intellectual Trans-Gendering -- How Do You Fare?
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2007, 08:06:05 PM » |
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I think Clive's question has some merit to it now. Many responses of being looked upon differently, albeit having the same level of intelligence, and character.
I still think (although wondering how you would be received is difficult, and begs the question*, how am I perceived now? Is it really the way I think?) My case would not be that different. Instead of them ignoring my personnel rants about the vikings, the would actually be inviting me to the purse party this Friday.
*I still don't understand it's proper use.
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/begs.htmlAlso, http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/its.html so, (thanks, gleek, fuzzy) To use it at all, is to use it incorrectly? No, you can use it like so: "Your lame-ass argument is weak. It's just begging the question." |
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Re: Intellectual Trans-Gendering -- How Do You Fare?
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2007, 08:13:48 PM » |
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Ok, I'm starting grasp some purchase on this.
So, was my original usage correct? I.E. Didn't my first question raise another?
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Re: Intellectual Trans-Gendering -- How Do You Fare?
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2007, 08:16:01 PM » |
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Ok, I'm starting grasp some purchase on this.
So, was my original usage correct? I.E. Didn't my first question raise another?
Replace "begs" with "raises" in your original sentence, and you're fine. |
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Re: Intellectual Trans-Gendering -- How Do You Fare?
« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2007, 08:22:44 PM » |
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Ok, I'm starting grasp some purchase on this.
So, was my original usage correct? I.E. Didn't my first question raise another?
Replace "begs" with "raises" in your original sentence, and you're fine. Got it. Merci. |
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Re: Intellectual Trans-Gendering -- How Do You Fare?
« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2007, 08:23:58 PM » |
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Ok, I'm starting grasp some purchase on this.
So, was my original usage correct? I.E. Didn't my first question raise another?
Replace "begs" with "raises" in your original sentence, and you're fine. What gleek said. I'm a little slow tonight. |
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Re: Intellectual Trans-Gendering -- How Do You Fare?
« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2007, 08:26:45 PM » |
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In the term "begs the question" the "question" is not really a question as such, it is, rather, an argument. The term "beg" does not mean "request" or "ask", but rather it means essentially to use the argument to support the argument. It's an example of circular logic.
Example:
"Dune rules because Frank Herbert is the best author of all time and he couldn't possibly write anything that sucks." (Apologies to U.B.)
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Re: Intellectual Trans-Gendering -- How Do You Fare?
« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2007, 08:30:27 PM » |
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Wow. I guess I can take refuge in the fact that at some level I was smart enough to know that I wasn't smart enough to know how to use it.  |
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Re: Intellectual Trans-Gendering -- How Do You Fare?
« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2007, 08:32:50 PM » |
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Unless you were a speech and debate dork in high school, it's probably a good idea to avoid using the term.
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Re: Intellectual Trans-Gendering -- How Do You Fare?
« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2007, 08:33:39 PM » |
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If you were a chick, you'd still probably not know how to use the term right but could probably just flash some cleavage and get away with it.
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Re: Intellectual Trans-Gendering -- How Do You Fare?
« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2007, 08:34:05 PM » |
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Unless you were a speech and debate dork in high school, it's probably a good idea to avoid using the term.
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Re: Intellectual Trans-Gendering -- How Do You Fare?
« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2007, 08:35:48 PM » |
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If you were a chick, you'd still probably not know how to use the term right but could probably just flash some cleavage and get away with it.
Fair dinkum. |
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Re: Intellectual Trans-Gendering -- How Do You Fare?
« Reply #44 on: November 27, 2007, 08:41:15 PM » |
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We didn't have speech or debate in my school.
I grew up during the Reagan Administration. I was part of the "It's ok if some kids don't get it" program.
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