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Re: Strong Opinions/Emotions Re: the NE Patriots
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Re: Strong Opinions/Emotions Re: the NE Patriots
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2007, 04:11:09 PM » |
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For me it starts with Jan. 19th, 2002.
Then you have a team that somehow manages to nip out big wins - taking three Super Bowls by three points each. That's a credit to them but it just seems undeserving somehow. I have a hard time calling a team that scrapes though like that a dynasty. Perhaps unfair but there it is.
Their fans... holy cow. Chip on the shoulder crowd if ever. Mortally wounded if someone doesn't think the Patriots are the greatest team ever. I happen to think this year's team just might be that but I'm not ready to hand them the #1 Dynasty title just yet.
But it really comes down to Belichick. He's an arrogant prick and his smug attitude seems to be contagious. He topped it this year by appearing offended he was called out for cheating. The cheating is one thing; the complete (perceived??) lack of remorse is something else. I wouldn't let him in my house nor near my children.
I'll have to humbly disagree with you on this Uisce. Who isn't passionate about their team? Outside of a couple boisterous idiots that could learn a thing or two about class and humility (this applies to fans of other teams as well) I've seen more uncalled for hating of the Pats then I have seen the arrogant attitude depicted of the Pats fans. How much of this hate is media driven? |
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Re: Strong Opinions/Emotions Re: the NE Patriots
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2007, 04:22:27 PM » |
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For me it starts with Jan. 19th, 2002.
Then you have a team that somehow manages to nip out big wins - taking three Super Bowls by three points each. That's a credit to them but it just seems undeserving somehow. I have a hard time calling a team that scrapes though like that a dynasty. Perhaps unfair but there it is.
Their fans... holy cow. Chip on the shoulder crowd if ever. Mortally wounded if someone doesn't think the Patriots are the greatest team ever. I happen to think this year's team just might be that but I'm not ready to hand them the #1 Dynasty title just yet.
But it really comes down to Belichick. He's an arrogant prick and his smug attitude seems to be contagious. He topped it this year by appearing offended he was called out for cheating. The cheating is one thing; the complete (perceived??) lack of remorse is something else. I wouldn't let him in my house nor near my children.
I'll have to humbly disagree with you on this Uisce. Who isn't passionate about their team? Outside of a couple boisterous idiots that could learn a thing or two about class and humility (this applies to fans of other teams as well) I've seen more uncalled for hating of the Pats then I have seen the arrogant attitude depicted of the Pats fans. How much of this hate is media driven? It's possible I'm projecting one particular Pats fan across the entire base.  LOL. I do stand by it though. I think there's a strange mixture of arrogance and insecurity in that team's fans. "We're the best and you MUST acknowledge it or I'll cry." |
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Re: Strong Opinions/Emotions Re: the NE Patriots
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2007, 04:35:32 PM » |
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For me it starts with Jan. 19th, 2002.
Then you have a team that somehow manages to nip out big wins - taking three Super Bowls by three points each. That's a credit to them but it just seems undeserving somehow. I have a hard time calling a team that scrapes though like that a dynasty. Perhaps unfair but there it is.
Their fans... holy cow. Chip on the shoulder crowd if ever. Mortally wounded if someone doesn't think the Patriots are the greatest team ever. I happen to think this year's team just might be that but I'm not ready to hand them the #1 Dynasty title just yet.
But it really comes down to Belichick. He's an arrogant prick and his smug attitude seems to be contagious. He topped it this year by appearing offended he was called out for cheating. The cheating is one thing; the complete (perceived??) lack of remorse is something else. I wouldn't let him in my house nor near my children.
I'll have to humbly disagree with you on this Uisce. Who isn't passionate about their team? Outside of a couple boisterous idiots that could learn a thing or two about class and humility (this applies to fans of other teams as well) I've seen more uncalled for hating of the Pats then I have seen the arrogant attitude depicted of the Pats fans. How much of this hate is media driven? It's possible I'm projecting one particular Pats fan across the entire base. LOL. I do stand by it though. I think there's a strange mixture of arrogance and insecurity in that team's fans. "We're the best and you MUST acknowledge it or I'll cry."I talked to my Uncle from South Boston last month and we spoke more or less about the same thing, in particular the Red Sox. He said everyone in Mass. is saying there has never been a better time to be a sports fan in Boston. He somewhat hates it, as it brings the bandwagon, chest thumping fans out of the closet and it makes it harder to get tickets at the gahden. Success breeds *bunghole*s plain and simple, and it isn't limited to just Boston and New York. |
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Re: Strong Opinions/Emotions Re: the NE Patriots
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2007, 04:36:42 PM » |
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The only team in the NFL I truly loathe is the Cowboys.
And yet another team people either love or hate. Don't hear about much because they had been sukking for the past several years. This year they are overshadowed by NE. I think it's the "gunnin' for #1" thing. Beyond that I agree with stroh, just because of the liver thing. |
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Re: Strong Opinions/Emotions Re: the NE Patriots
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2007, 05:54:10 PM » |
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Truth be told, the bulk of my issue with the Cowboys can probably be summed up in two words: America's Team.
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Re: Strong Opinions/Emotions Re: the NE Patriots
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2007, 07:44:04 PM » |
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I don't hate the Pats. I just don't cheer for 'em.
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Re: Strong Opinions/Emotions Re: the NE Patriots
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2007, 08:00:44 PM » |
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Truth be told, the bulk of my issue with the Cowboys can probably be summed up in two words: America's Team.
Agreed. I don't hate, or dislike the Cowboys. When I grew up in Jacksonville, we didn't have a team. The closest was Miami  And then the upstart TB Buc.s, are you *fudge*in' kidding me? McKay? 0 - 13? (In retrospect those original uniforms, and logo kick ass) I had 3 options. The Steelers. Hard to argue. Bradshaw. 4 superbowls. The Cowboys Staubach. Tony Dorsett. Or, since I had family in Minnesota......the 4 time superbowl appearing Queens. Tough call, but the reason for the post...I got tired(albeit the cheerleaders made it interesting) of hearing how I should love the Cowboys. They were cool and all that, but.........Went Purple, and never looked back. Moved to MN in '80. Bleed Purple and Gold since around '75. I have to admit, though there was a time when the Eagles did hold a certain charm.. Jaworski. Carmichael. Montgomery. Those were the days. |
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Re: Strong Opinions/Emotions Re: the NE Patriots
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2007, 08:24:42 PM » |
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"We're the best and you MUST acknowledge it or I'll cry."
Good point. I think you hit the nail on that one. |
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Re: Strong Opinions/Emotions Re: the NE Patriots
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2007, 09:05:03 PM » |
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Agreed. I don't hate, or dislike the Cowboys. When I grew up in Jacksonville, we didn't have a team. The closest was Miami And then the upstart TB Buc.s, are you *fudge*in' kidding me? McKay? 0 - 13? (In retrospect those original uniforms, and logo kick ass) I had 3 options. The Steelers. Hard to argue. Bradshaw. 4 superbowls. The Cowboys Staubach. Tony Dorsett. Or, since I had family in Minnesota......the 4 time superbowl appearing Queens. Tough call, but the reason for the post...I got tired(albeit the cheerleaders made it interesting) of hearing how I should love the Cowboys. They were cool and all that, but.........Went Purple, and never looked back. Moved to MN in '80. Bleed Purple and Gold since around '75. I have to admit, though there was a time when the Eagles did hold a certain charm.. Jaworski. Carmichael. Montgomery. Those were the days. Band wagoneer. |
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Re: Strong Opinions/Emotions Re: the NE Patriots
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2007, 09:07:40 PM » |
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Agreed. I don't hate, or dislike the Cowboys. When I grew up in Jacksonville, we didn't have a team. The closest was Miami And then the upstart TB Buc.s, are you *fudge*in' kidding me? McKay? 0 - 13? (In retrospect those original uniforms, and logo kick ass) I had 3 options. The Steelers. Hard to argue. Bradshaw. 4 superbowls. The Cowboys Staubach. Tony Dorsett. Or, since I had family in Minnesota......the 4 time superbowl appearing Queens. Tough call, but the reason for the post...I got tired(albeit the cheerleaders made it interesting) of hearing how I should love the Cowboys. They were cool and all that, but.........Went Purple, and never looked back. Moved to MN in '80. Bleed Purple and Gold since around '75. I have to admit, though there was a time when the Eagles did hold a certain charm.. Jaworski. Carmichael. Montgomery. Those were the days. Band wagoneer. I prefer the term Johnny-come-lately. |
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Re: Strong Opinions/Emotions Re: the NE Patriots
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2007, 09:10:57 PM » |
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If nothing else, that explains Karen's smile.
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Re: Strong Opinions/Emotions Re: the NE Patriots
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2007, 09:56:18 PM » |
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For me it starts with Jan. 19th, 2002.
Then you have a team that somehow manages to nip out big wins - taking three Super Bowls by three points each. That's a credit to them but it just seems undeserving somehow. I have a hard time calling a team that scrapes though like that a dynasty. Perhaps unfair but there it is. Well, the "original" dynasty -- the Green Bay Packers -- won only two Super Bowls, albeit by a combined 44 points. And that was good enough for Lombardi to get a trophy named after him. (And come on, it doesn't even look like him. Hello? Lombardi wore glasses!) Thereafter: - Dolphins: two in a row, by a combined 28.
- Steelers: four in six years, by a combined 30.
- Redskins: two in six years, by a combined 42. But one was against Denver -- I'm just sayin'.
- Niners: three in seven years, by a combined 72. But again, one was against Denver.
- Cowboys: three in four years, by a combined 62. But two were against Buffalo.
- Patriots: three in four years, by a combined
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Re: Strong Opinions/Emotions Re: the NE Patriots
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2007, 10:03:52 PM » |
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Patriots: three in four years, by a combined 3 9. OK, I'm convinced: the Patriots suck. If it were by a combined 3 points, I would say "lucky as hell" too. |
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Re: Strong Opinions/Emotions Re: the NE Patriots
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2007, 11:40:45 PM » |
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As I've said before, there are three kinds of people in this world: those who are good at math and those who aren't.
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