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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2008, 05:02:13 AM » |
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What if I don't have a team??
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2008, 05:07:24 AM » |
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What if I don't have a team??
Not much different than being a Vikings fan. |
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2008, 06:51:07 PM » |
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Torpedo, I'll let you field this one.
Vikes go 19-0!  And if our trade for Jared Allen goes through ... him playing next to the Williams Wall taking up all the blockers  ... |
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2008, 06:52:26 PM » |
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Not much different than being a Vikings fan.
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2008, 06:52:49 PM » |
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Steelers 10-6
49ers 7-9
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2008, 06:53:25 PM » |
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Torpedo, I'll let you field this one.
Vikes go 19-0! And if our trade for Jared Allen goes through ... him playing next to the Williams Wall taking up all the blockers ... lol, sorry, with tlame at qb, it's an 8-8 season at best |
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2008, 07:06:33 PM » |
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lol, sorry, with tlame at qb, it's an 8-8 season at best
Hey, unlike Parker, T.Jack didn't have double the fumbles as he did TD's.  This off season the Vikes have signed: Bernard Berrian Madieu Williams Thomas Tapeh Michael Boulware Maurice Hicks Gus Frerotte Smaller depth upgrading signings: Benny Sapp Kenderick Allen Dallas Sartz Ellis Wyms Derrick Pope And have the best RB in the NFL, one of the best o-lines, if the Allen trade goes through, best d-line, which would automatically make the secondary a whole lot better because they don't have to try to cover guys for 5 seconds every play, plus the draft ... and you think they will finish with he same record as last year? |
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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2008, 07:19:36 PM » |
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with tlame, yep
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2008, 07:20:45 PM » |
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with tlame, yep
Parker's the lame one, double the fumbles? He shouldn't be in the NFL.  |
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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2008, 07:25:40 PM » |
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with tlame, yep
Parker's the lame one, double the fumbles? He shouldn't be in the NFL. so what does that say about peterson, who fumbles more than parker (by far!!) and who can't even blame it on the weather 8 games a year  |
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« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2008, 08:07:50 PM » |
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so what does that say about peterson, who fumbles more than parker (by far!!) and who can't even blame it on the weather 8 games a year By far? Parker had 4 fumbles and 2 TD's with 345 touches. AD had 4 fumbles and 13 TD's with 273 touches. Projecting the stats out to make Peterson have the same amount of touches as Parker had, AD would have only had 1 extra fumble and 2 extra TD's than before (since we projected the fumbles, we have to project the TD's too). So what does it say about Peterson? It says that with the stats projected out to make AD have the same amount of touches as Parker the stats would have been: Parker: 4 fumbles and 2 TD's AD: 5 fumbles and 16 TD's Far more fumbles? Try 1. And 14 more TD's. Parker.Pwn3d. |
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2008, 06:57:18 AM » |
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blah blah blah please project peterson lost fumbles / touch out to parkers total touches  |
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2008, 07:06:32 AM » |
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please project peterson lost fumbles / touch out to parkers total touches Is that going to be  far more (1) too?  |
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« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2008, 07:16:21 AM » |
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please project peterson lost fumbles / touch out to parkers total touches Is that going to be far more (1) too? parker total .0147 lost .00784 peterson total .0156 lost .01167 multiplying peterson over to parkers career stats (for touches) and he will have 4 more lost fumbles at the same point in his career. when you consider 1/2 of his games are indoor, that is simply unacceptable, regardless of his exceptional TD potential/performance. lost fumbles often translate to 10, if not 14 point game changing swings. not something an 8-8 level team routinely survives . tds: .023 / touch vs .051 (yes, peterson has a big edge here, partly due to himself, partly due to the vikes not having many other scoring threats- that is to say, i'd guess any great RB you plugin with the vikes roster remaining otherwise intact would score with a greater frequency than parker for the steelers) |
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2008, 07:31:09 AM » |
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among the modern elite greats of all time
lost/touch
smith: .005
sanders: .004 (probably the best analog as he also got to play 9 games a year minimum in perfect indoor conditions where fumbling is truly due to him only)
tomlinson: .0035
is this to say that i think peterson sucks, or that he doesn't have an almost unlimited future potential? no.
it just says that he does have at least one huge flaw in his game. he coughs the ball up and loses it a lot so far. the truly great players don't (or learned how not to) do this over their careers. he NEEDS to learn to do the same. losing 2-3x as many fumbles as the above players is what will help keep the vikes out of the playoffs routinely, regardless of whatever else he does to make himself look equal to them
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