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New fuel economy standard will be 31.6 mpg! lol
« on: April 24, 2008, 08:56:43 PM » |
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24258714/New cars and trucks will have to meet a fleet-wide average of 31.6 mpg by 2015, or about a 4.5 percent annual increase from 2011 to 2015. In 2015, passenger cars will need to achieve 35.7 mpg and trucks will need to reach 28.6 percent.
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The fleet of new passenger cars is currently required to meet a 27.5 mpg average, while sport utility vehicles, pickup trucks and vans must hit a target of 22.5 mpg. Among the current fleet, passenger cars average about 31.3 mpg while light trucks get about 23.1 mpg.
These suggested targeted mpg, are they highway? I don't know of an suv, pickup truck and/or van whose target of 22.5 has been met. Let me rephrase, friends of ours reached the goal driving on the highway in their minivan! They got about 24mpg. Haven't heard of an suv (full size) getting that gas mileage, or are they not including the big SUV, only the mini ones, like a Honda CRV or something of that nature. In addition, people who have used the E85 ethanol gas have told me they get worse gas mileage, so why do they want to pay for that when they go shorter distances. I just think that it is convenient that they are introducing this package on the presidents way out of office. This way he doesn't actually have to follow thru with it, he is passing the buck on to someone else. Sorry, I normally do not engage in political commentary but..... this is frustrating, is he trying to improve his approval rating or something?
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Uisce Beatha
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Re: New fuel economy standard will be 31.6 mpg! lol
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2008, 09:01:38 PM » |
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I only drive our min-van on long trips (vacations) but we get 24mpg easy. More than that if we keep it under 85.
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stroh
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Re: New fuel economy standard will be 31.6 mpg! lol
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2008, 09:04:30 PM » |
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You know the role of GolfHos Big Oil apologist is already taken, right?
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Uisce Beatha
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Re: New fuel economy standard will be 31.6 mpg! lol
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2008, 09:06:37 PM » |
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You know the role of GolfHos Big Oil apologist is already taken, right?
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Re: New fuel economy standard will be 31.6 mpg! lol
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2008, 09:09:49 PM » |
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thats good, since world conventional liquids oil production will be down 15-20% by then
of course, it would be better if we all had these cars NOW.-- since we could have been building them 20 years ago tech-wise
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Re: New fuel economy standard will be 31.6 mpg! lol
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2008, 09:11:58 PM » |
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I'm averaging 48 mpg (total hwy and city) on the bike.  |
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Re: New fuel economy standard will be 31.6 mpg! lol
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2008, 09:16:32 PM » |
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The dirty little secret is that the car manufacturers pay a fine for not meeting the fleet average. It's like a cover charge for them. http://www.detnews.com/ap...103/AUTO01/801030325/1148NHTSA hit six manufacturers with fines totaling more than $40 million for missing 2006 mileage standards, including a record $30.3 million fine for Daimler AG's imported fleet handed down in October. According to a report by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration released late last month, fleet-wide fuel economy in the United States averaged 26.6 mpg, up 3.5 percent from the 25.7 mpg averaged in the 2006 model year. Passenger cars averaged a new high of 31.2 mpg, while light trucks averaged a separate record of 23.1 mpg.
Both figures handily beat the government's 2007 mileage mandates of 27.5 mpg for passenger cars and 22.2 mpg for light trucks. Estimated 2007 model year results are:
• General Motors Corp.: 29.9 mpg for domestic cars, 31.9 mpg for imported vehicles and 22.6 mpg for light trucks.
• Ford Motor Co.: 29 mpg for domestically produced cars, 29.9 mpg for imported cars and 22.2 mpg for light trucks.
• DaimlerChrysler: 28.6 mpg for domestic vehicles, 24.7 mpg for imported vehicles and 22.6 mpg for light trucks.
• Toyota Motor Corp.: 31.6 mpg for domestically produced cars, 38.5 mpg for imported cars -- largely based on Prius hybrids -- and 23.9 mpg for light trucks.
• Honda Motor Co.: 33.5 mpg for domestically produced cars, 39.6 mpg for imports, and 25 mpg for light trucks.
• Nissan Motor Co.: 25.6 for imported cars, 34 mpg for domestically produced cars and 22.9 mpg for light trucks. |
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Re: New fuel economy standard will be 31.6 mpg! lol
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2008, 09:19:05 PM » |
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I'm averaging 48 mpg (total hwy and city) on the bike. Just got me a UTA pass for something like $10 a month. I'll give Frontrunner (commuter train + bus connection a whirl and see how many dead dinosaurs I can save. |
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Re: New fuel economy standard will be 31.6 mpg! lol
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2008, 09:19:59 PM » |
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The dirty little secret is that the car manufacturers pay a fine for not meeting the fleet average. It's like a cover charge for them. http://www.detnews.com/ap...103/AUTO01/801030325/1148NHTSA hit six manufacturers with fines totaling more than $40 million for missing 2006 mileage standards, including a record $30.3 million fine for Daimler AG's imported fleet handed down in October. According to a report by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration released late last month, fleet-wide fuel economy in the United States averaged 26.6 mpg, up 3.5 percent from the 25.7 mpg averaged in the 2006 model year. Passenger cars averaged a new high of 31.2 mpg, while light trucks averaged a separate record of 23.1 mpg.
Both figures handily beat the government's 2007 mileage mandates of 27.5 mpg for passenger cars and 22.2 mpg for light trucks. Estimated 2007 model year results are:
• General Motors Corp.: 29.9 mpg for domestic cars, 31.9 mpg for imported vehicles and 22.6 mpg for light trucks.
• Ford Motor Co.: 29 mpg for domestically produced cars, 29.9 mpg for imported cars and 22.2 mpg for light trucks.
• DaimlerChrysler: 28.6 mpg for domestic vehicles, 24.7 mpg for imported vehicles and 22.6 mpg for light trucks.
• Toyota Motor Corp.: 31.6 mpg for domestically produced cars, 38.5 mpg for imported cars -- largely based on Prius hybrids -- and 23.9 mpg for light trucks.
• Honda Motor Co.: 33.5 mpg for domestically produced cars, 39.6 mpg for imports, and 25 mpg for light trucks.
• Nissan Motor Co.: 25.6 for imported cars, 34 mpg for domestically produced cars and 22.9 mpg for light trucks. just modify this to fit... A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
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Re: New fuel economy standard will be 31.6 mpg! lol
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2008, 09:21:41 PM » |
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Re: New fuel economy standard will be 31.6 mpg! lol
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2008, 09:33:42 PM » |
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I'm averaging 48 mpg (total hwy and city) on the bike. Just got me a UTA pass for something like $10 a month. I'll give Frontrunner (commuter train + bus connection a whirl and see how many dead dinosaurs I can save. Says the guy who works from home. |
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Re: New fuel economy standard will be 31.6 mpg! lol
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2008, 09:35:23 PM » |
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I'm averaging 48 mpg (total hwy and city) on the bike. Just got me a UTA pass for something like $10 a month. I'll give Frontrunner (commuter train + bus connection a whirl and see how many dead dinosaurs I can save. Says the guy who works from home. LOL. I go to So. Temple/7th East once a week. Might be 4-5 days a week for a month or two in the summer while I train up some other developers. |
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