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Another AV home setup question
« on: April 16, 2010, 11:27:28 AM »

I have received good useful instructions here before, so I thought I would give it another chance.  I am attempting to setup another audio visual component to my home theater setup.  I have a Wii that is now connected to Netflix.  I have read thru the manual of my Onkyo TX-SR875 or 805.  Eyesight is bad enough that I have not been able to read which model I actually have.  However, I don't think that is the problem.

What I am attempting to do is to set up the Wii on this home theater setup.  I currently have HD DVD player set up on it.  I also have commiecast set up on it.  Both run successfully.  I also have my mac set up to the HD Toshiba screen with audio from mac to Onkyo using the optical audio.

So far, I have been able to get the picture to show up successfully using component cables from Wii to Component Video in on receiver.  I also used the same color jacks for the video and audio portions.  Of course, the sound is non existent when I play the thing.  I assumed that the audio would be sent out thru the HDMI out to the TV just like the video.  I was hoping this would work.  It doesn't.  The instructions do show how to set up a game console but it avoids using the hdmi out and I was hoping to do this with as little wiring as possible.  I already have LOOONG cables in use. Grin
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Re: Another AV home setup question
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2010, 11:48:58 AM »

Is this it?

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Re: Another AV home setup question
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2010, 12:12:49 PM »

So far, I have been able to get the picture to show up successfully using component cables from Wii to Component Video in on receiver.  I also used the same color jacks for the video and audio portions.  Of course, the sound is non existent when I play the thing.  I assumed that the audio would be sent out thru the HDMI out to the TV just like the video.  I was hoping this would work.  It doesn't.  The instructions do show how to set up a game console but it avoids using the hdmi out and I was hoping to do this with as little wiring as possible.  I already have LOOONG cables in use. Grin

I'm not sure I read this correctly.  Are you trying to do this:
VIDEO:  Wii Component Cable > Onkyo > HDMI Cable > TV
AUDIO: Wii Audio > Onkyo > HDMI Cable > TV


This is a troubling comment for people with Wiis and Onkyos.
http://www.avsforum.com/a.../showthread.php?t=1142467
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So I contacted Onkyo Support and here's why running component from the 806 to the TV works fine vs. Wii over HDMI:

Brian,
When connecting a gaming console to any of our receivers it is recommended that you use the same type of connections going into the receiver and coming out of the receiver. So if for example you are using a COMPONENT cable into the receiver it is best to use COMPONENT out from the receiver to the TV. This is stated in your ownerís manual on page 31. For some reason the Wii does not output a strong enough signal to be out put via an HDMI cable.
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Re: Another AV home setup question
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2010, 12:34:15 PM »

Hmm, I just reread your post again, and is the problem only that the audio doesn't work and the video is ok?



If it's a general signal loss problem, it looks like some people have success with the following:

Original Connection Path:
Wii Component Cable > Onkyo > HDMI Cable > TV

Modified Connection Path:
Wii Component Cable > Onkyo > Component Cable > TV

http://www.avforums.com/f...tx-sr706-signal-loss.html

http://www.hometheaterfor...sr806-and-the-wii-problem
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Re: Another AV home setup question
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2010, 12:55:00 PM »

Just as a sanity check, is HDMI Audio set to on for the receiver, it looks like the default is off.


HDMI Audio
This setting determines whether audio received by an
HDMI input is output by the HDMI OUT. You may want
to change this setting to On if your TV is connected to
the HDMI OUT and you want to listen to audio from an
HDMI component through your TVís speakers. Nor-
mally, it should be set to Off.
Off:
 HDMI audio is not output (default).
On:
 HDMI audio is output.
Notes:
ē If On is selected and the signal can be output by the
TV, the AV receiver will output no sound through its
speakers.
ē When TV Control is enabled, this setting is set to
Auto.
ē With some TVs and input signals, no sound may be
output even if On is selected.
ē When the HDMI Audio setting is set to On, or TV
Control is set to Enable and youíre listening through
your TVís speakers (see page 37), if you turn up the
AV receiverís volume control, the sound will be output
by the AV receiverís speakers. To stop the AV
receiverís speakers producing sound, change the set-
tings, change your TVís settings, or turn down the AV
receiverís volume.
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Re: Another AV home setup question
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2010, 03:33:09 PM »

Is this it?



It is the 805.  My set up is such that I would not have found the info without this photo.  I knew where to look with a flashlight.  Had to get down on my belly and hold the reading glasses just right to find out what model number I have.
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Re: Another AV home setup question
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2010, 04:34:49 PM »

Hmm, I just reread your post again, and is the problem only that the audio doesn't work and the video is ok?



If it's a general signal loss problem, it looks like some people have success with the following:

Original Connection Path:
Wii Component Cable > Onkyo > HDMI Cable > TV

Modified Connection Path:
Wii Component Cable > Onkyo > Component Cable > TV

http://www.avforums.com/f...tx-sr706-signal-loss.html

http://www.hometheaterfor...sr806-and-the-wii-problem


Audio is the one that does not work.  Video works fine.

I have the HDMI out from the receiver to the TV.  I have the component cable (using Rocketfish cabling RF Giioo9) from the Wii to Onkyo.  This cabling has 1 connection into the Wii with thick cable coming out and then breaks into a set of 3 cables and a set of two.  I plugged in the 3 cables into the component video section green to green, blue to blue, and red to red in the vertical column.  I refer you to gleek's illustration of the 875.

I want to hear sound but do not hear it from either the TV speakers or the home theater speakers.  So, my conclusion is that the component cable for video works fine and I have input sound through the component audio cables.  I just have to find a way to get the sound from the receiver out through the theater speakers.

There is no difference in the sound output when I change the HDMI audio output to no from yes.

I will read through the links provided prior to me writing this post (started about an hour ago).  Will also read thru the manual to see if there is a way to get sound from speakers and video thru TV with out extra video cabling.

You guys have been quite helpful.

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Re: Another AV home setup question
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2010, 04:41:24 PM »




I have just confirmed again that I would never have made a good bomb technician either building or unbuilding them.


I'm with ya.


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Re: Another AV home setup question
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2010, 07:47:02 PM »

So how many cables come out of the Wii and plug into the receiver? How many are video and how many are audio?
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Re: Another AV home setup question
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2010, 10:56:29 PM »

So how many cables come out of the Wii and plug into the receiver? How many are video and how many are audio?

Don't know how to post picture of this.  However, if you google RF-GWII009, you will find a picture of the item.  My explanation of it is 1 plug (one of the cabling) goes into Wii, the rest is one very thick cable to the other end which breaks apart into 2 sets of new cables.  I have used the set of 3 as stated earlier and have not used the two remaining which are red and white.  None of them are labeled as audio or video that I can tell.  Made by Rocketfish.
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Re: Another AV home setup question
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2010, 04:00:32 AM »

So how many cables come out of the Wii and plug into the receiver? How many are video and how many are audio?

Don't know how to post picture of this.  However, if you google RF-GWII009, you will find a picture of the item.  My explanation of it is 1 plug (one of the cabling) goes into Wii, the rest is one very thick cable to the other end which breaks apart into 2 sets of new cables.  I have used the set of 3 as stated earlier and have not used the two remaining which are red and white.  None of them are labeled as audio or video that I can tell.  Made by Rocketfish.
The Red and White are your sound cables. These need to be plugged in for sound.
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Re: Another AV home setup question
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2010, 10:46:08 AM »

SUCCESS!!!!

Prior to my original post, I thought that video component cables came in a set of 3 (1 for video, and 2 for audio).  Now, I know that all 3 cables are just for video ("Damn't, which cable do I snip -
the red or blue?"  "You have 15 seconds!!!!!!" "I'm going to have to guess.  I am cutting the red!")

The video component cables are using the 1 remaining HDMI capability.  The Onkyo has capability for 3 items to be used for HDMI.  So, after Spanky's post, I decided, what the heck, I placed the 2 remaining cables from the 5 previously mentioned into the cbl/sat inputs on the onkyo.  I had assigned the video component cables to the cbl/sat HDMI capability.  It all works.

Thanks to gleek, dystopia and Spanky, we got the system to work.  Video is being sent to TV and audio is produced by the home theater system.

Wii successfully connects to the internet and I can play the instant stuff that Netflix provides.
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2010, 11:02:52 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2010, 11:58:41 AM »

woohoo!  Great news!  Cool

I've been thinking of dusting off the Wii.  We haven't played it in ages, but I just saw that our library has Wii games to check out.
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