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What Does "Tipped" Mean?
« on: January 05, 2007, 07:11:43 AM »

I've (obv.) heard the term many times, and have generalized the notion, but...

Is it the way a shaft is made?  Is it what you do to the shaft?  Can you change the characteristics of how it's tipped?

What does tipping it stiff, or so forth do to the flight of the ball?

Does it affect rotational torque as well?

And what the hell is FLOing?  I notice spaceage didn't do it.



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Re: What Does "Tipped" Mean?
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2007, 07:22:53 AM »

tipped means they cut off the good part of the end.   like a circum  umm nevermind.   

it usually makes the shaft play 'stiffer'


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Re: What Does "Tipped" Mean?
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2007, 07:41:59 AM »

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Re: What Does "Tipped" Mean?
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2007, 07:49:55 AM »


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Re: What Does "Tipped" Mean?
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2007, 07:57:03 AM »

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Re: What Does "Tipped" Mean?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2007, 08:01:52 AM »

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Re: What Does "Tipped" Mean?
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2007, 08:25:56 AM »

tipped means they cut off the good part of the end.   like a circum  umm nevermind.   

it usually makes the shaft play 'stiffer'



Indeed. It can also change the kick point, and can alter the "feel" of the shaft. Personally I tip my shafts as little as possible because I swing like a girl.
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Re: What Does "Tipped" Mean?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2007, 08:29:36 AM »

tipped means they cut off the good part of the end.   like a circum  umm nevermind.   

it usually makes the shaft play 'stiffer'



Indeed. It can also change the kick point, and can alter the "feel" of the shaft. Personally I tip my shafts as little as possible because I swing like a girl.

So, doesn't that mean you have to cut more off the butt end?  Doesn't that change the shape/taper of the club at some point?

Or am I just way off, not having started with a "raw" shaft.
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Re: What Does "Tipped" Mean?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2007, 09:36:40 AM »

tipped means they cut off the good part of the end.   like a circum  umm nevermind.   

it usually makes the shaft play 'stiffer'



Indeed. It can also change the kick point, and can alter the "feel" of the shaft. Personally I tip my shafts as little as possible because I swing like a girl.

So, doesn't that mean you have to cut more off the butt end?  Doesn't that change the shape/taper of the club at some point?

Or am I just way off, not having started with a "raw" shaft.
(damn, left that fookin' door wide open") 

although not universal or absolute,  butt trimming a shaft will have less effect (stiffness, launch, kick, feel)  on the shaft than tip trimming it  (by the same amount)
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Re: What Does "Tipped" Mean?
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2007, 10:03:19 AM »

Most shafts are designed to be tip trimmed. Raw shafts have trimming instructions that tell you how much to remove, depending on what club you are shafting. Different heads have different weights, with driver being lightest and then getting heavier as you progress backwards, so in order to play true to flex you need to remove some tip to stiffen the shaft. Some people want to make the shaft play stiffer than the stated flex, so they might trim additional length off the tip above and beyond the tipping instructions.

The simple way to look at it is the thicker the shaft, the stiffer it is (lol). Since conventional shafts are tapered, if you trim some off the tip (the thinnest part), you're leaving yourself with the thicker portion of the shaft...the stiffest part. Conversely, if you butt trim the shaft, the shaft will play marginally softer because you've removed the stiffest part of the shaft, and the remaining length is comprised of thinner, more flexible part of the shaft.
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Re: What Does "Tipped" Mean?
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2007, 10:39:13 AM »

Perfect.  Thank you.  Now I get it.

Like I said, i had always heard the term, but had now idea how, or why it was applied.
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Re: What Does "Tipped" Mean?
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2007, 02:32:52 PM »

Don't know if it was mentioned here, but ... "tipped" has two meanings.  First, the simple "some has been cut off the small end" meaning.  Second, the notion of taking off more than was called for before installing the shaft into the clubhead.  E.g. your Dynamic Gold X100 was supposed to go into your 5-iron head with 2" tip trimming, but your 77-year-old customer says he's a he-man who needs a stiff shaft, so you make one with 2" tip-trimming and a second demo with 5" trimmed off the tip.  That latter DGX100 has been tipped.
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Re: What Does "Tipped" Mean?
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2007, 06:37:50 PM »

Yes.  That was the root of my question.  I didn't know any of "the other stuff".

When someone says, It's "tipped" _______.  Was getting me confused.
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Re: What Does "Tipped" Mean?
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2007, 07:01:13 PM »

Yes.  That was the root of my question.  I didn't know any of "the other stuff".

When someone says, It's "tipped" _______.  Was getting me confused.
When someone says it's "tipped"______, they're saying they took more off the tip than the specs called for, hence they're playing a shaft that is stiffer than the stated flex of the shaft. I don't think anyone would say they're playing a driver shaft that is tipped 1" if the tipping instructions called for taking an inch off the tip.
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Re: What Does "Tipped" Mean?
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2007, 07:11:15 PM »

Ok.

But all I ever heard was "it's tipped", or "not tipped"

So, I didn't no, if it was a product of the shaft itself(model), or what someone could or could not do, and how.
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