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« on: May 09, 2007, 07:55:06 PM »

You guys are so good at explaining things whenever I have a question that I thought I'd ask another one. 

What's so great about watching a car go around in circles 500 or so times?  Yeah, NASCAR.  I don't understand what's so interesting.  Now, I need all of you that enjoy watching a car go around in circles hundreds of times to tell me what you enjoy about it. 

Now, start explaining.
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2007, 08:18:23 PM »

MOST sports sound stupid when one explains them:

 'Well, you hit the ball from here to that hole over there, and the person who hits it the fewest times wins'

WTF is that?

I take it you've never been to an automobile race live and in person? There really is no way to explain it unless you've seen it up close. It's like 'explaining' ****. I can 'Describe' it, but one can't really 'Explain' the appeal.

First of all, let's understand that ALL automobile races consist of 3 things: The beginning, the middle, and the end, which sounds simple enough, but it's a starting point.

The Beginning:

In most American racing, the grid starts in a pack, and all 20 to 43 of the cars are attempting to be the first ones to get to a space that will only hold 2 or 3 of them at a time. This actually goes on for a few laps, because there are almost always faster cars in the back that SHOULD be in the front, so they have to sort that out.

The Middle:

This is the part people refer to as 'Driving Around In Circles' which is true enough, but what's really going on is that drivers (and teams in NASCAR, IRL, F1 and even most short tracks) are looking for places on the track where they can pick up a few hundredths or tenths of a second by altering the line they are running, adjusting the car to run a different line, etc, etc as well as trying to make sure they are in a position to get to the end without anything breaking or having some dip*feces* named 'Busch' run into them.

Now, if everything goes right, you might get to be up front at

The End.

This is the part where you've sorted the car out, and drive up somebodies ass to try to force them to make a mistake, or you put the knowledge that you've spent all day getting to drive around a few folks on a line they haven't seen work yet.

It's WAY more complicated than that, really.

Until you've seen 25,000 horspower hauling ass into the first turn in a pack that only 4 or 5 guys or going to come through in any kind of position, heard the noise, and smelled the smells in person, you really can't begin to appreciate what it's all about.

Because it's all about 43 guys trying to be in first place.





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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2007, 08:26:39 PM »

MOST sports sound stupid when one explains them:

 'Well, you hit the ball from here to that hole over there, and the person who hits it the fewest times wins'

WTF is that?

I take it you've never been to an automobile race live and in person? There really is no way to explain it unless you've seen it up close. It's like 'explaining' ****. I can 'Describe' it, but one can't really 'Explain' the appeal.

First of all, let's understand that ALL automobile races consist of 3 things: The beginning, the middle, and the end, which sounds simple enough, but it's a starting point.

The Beginning:

In most American racing, the grid starts in a pack, and all 20 to 43 of the cars are attempting to be the first ones to get to a space that will only hold 2 or 3 of them at a time. This actually goes on for a few laps, because there are almost always faster cars in the back that SHOULD be in the front, so they have to sort that out.

The Middle:

This is the part people refer to as 'Driving Around In Circles' which is true enough, but what's really going on is that drivers (and teams in NASCAR, IRL, F1 and even most short tracks) are looking for places on the track where they can pick up a few hundredths or tenths of a second by altering the line they are running, adjusting the car to run a different line, etc, etc as well as trying to make sure they are in a position to get to the end without anything breaking or having some dip*feces* named 'Busch' run into them.

Now, if everything goes right, you might get to be up front at

The End.

This is the part where you've sorted the car out, and drive up somebodies ass to try to force them to make a mistake, or you put the knowledge that you've spent all day getting to drive around a few folks on a line they haven't seen work yet.

It's WAY more complicated than that, really.

Until you've seen 25,000 horspower hauling ass into the first turn in a pack that only 4 or 5 guys or going to come through in any kind of position, heard the noise, and smelled the smells in person, you really can't begin to appreciate what it's all about.

Because it's all about 43 guys trying to be in first place.


It sure sounds like a bunch of guys driving around in circles. Wink
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2007, 08:30:12 PM »



Yeah, it's a bunch of guys driving around in circles. But only 1 of those guys is in first place, and the other 20 to 43 of them are trying to chase him down. Believe it or not, somebody usually does.
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2007, 08:46:08 PM »

It's because it's what you love, Ricky. It is who you were born to be. And here you sit. Thinking. Well, Ricky Bobby is not a thinker. Ricky Bobby is a driver. He is a doer, and that's what you need to do. You don't need to think. You need to drive. You need speed. You need to go out there, and you need to rev your engine. You need to fire it up. You need to grab ahold of that line between speed and chaos, and you need to wrestle it to the ground like a demon cobra. And then, when the fear rises up in your belly, you use it. And you know that fear is powerful, because it has been there for billions of years. And it is good. And you use it. And you ride it; you ride it like a skeleton horse through the gates of hell, and then you win, Ricky. You WIN! And you don't win for anybody else. You win for you, you know why? Because a man takes what he wants. He takes it all. And you're a man, aren't you? Aren't you?
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2007, 08:48:45 PM »

MOST sports sound stupid when one explains them:

 'Well, you hit the ball from here to that hole over there, and the person who hits it the fewest times wins'

I was just thinking about this very thing not too long ago.  About the time I got out for the first 9 of the year.  I've even written down a few sentences about it. Cheesy


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I take it you've never been to an automobile race live and in person? There really is no way to explain it unless you've seen it up close.

Nope, never have.  Unless you count the guys that race up and down our street, that is. Wink 


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First of all, let's understand that ALL automobile races consist of 3 things: The beginning, the middle, and the end, which sounds simple enough, but it's a starting point.

Okie-dokie, seems like a good place to start.


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The Beginning:

In most American racing, the grid starts in a pack, and all 20 to 43 of the cars are attempting to be the first ones to get to a space that will only hold 2 or 3 of them at a time. This actually goes on for a few laps, because there are almost always faster cars in the back that SHOULD be in the front, so they have to sort that out.

This must be the first part that I miss.


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The Middle:

This is the part people refer to as 'Driving Around In Circles' which is true enough, but what's really going on is that drivers (and teams in NASCAR, IRL, F1 and even most short tracks) are looking for places on the track where they can pick up a few hundredths or tenths of a second by altering the line they are running, adjusting the car to run a different line, etc, etc as well as trying to make sure they are in a position to get to the end without anything breaking or having some dip***** named 'Busch' run into them.

Now this must be the part I that I always come in at and can't watch more than 5 minutes of without wondering who can sit and watch the whole thing.  Who's Busch?


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Now, if everything goes right, you might get to be up front at

The End.

This is the part where you've sorted the car out, and drive up somebodies *** to try to force them to make a mistake, or you put the knowledge that you've spent all day getting to drive around a few folks on a line they haven't seen work yet.

This is the other part that I always miss.


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It's WAY more complicated than that, really.

Until you've seen 25,000 horspower hauling *** into the first turn in a pack that only 4 or 5 guys or going to come through in any kind of position, heard the noise, and smelled the smells in person, you really can't begin to appreciate what it's all about.

Because it's all about 43 guys trying to be in first place.

Would it be similar to the exciting rush of being on a motorcycle, feeling the wind on your face going down a stretch of highway - only a lot faster?

Thanks, maybe the next time that I am flipping through channels and pause for a moment I'll be able to understand why some people like it. 
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2007, 08:49:41 PM »

Frankly, I'd take watching MotoGP over golf on TV every time.  Jockeying, feints, drafting, head games, riding a machine at the very edge of control ... the level of competition and activity is well above whatever is going on in a golf tournament.
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2007, 08:50:09 PM »

...

It sure sounds like a bunch of guys driving around in circles. Wink

lol - but that's probably the best explanation I've heard. 
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2007, 09:04:14 PM »

All you need to watch is the last 1/2 of the last lap. Wink Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2007, 09:11:08 PM »

Frankly, I'd take watching MotoGP over golf on TV every time.  Jockeying, feints, drafting, head games, riding a machine at the very edge of control ... the level of competition and activity is well above whatever is going on in a golf tournament.

I never see any of that stuff - only them going around in circles.   What's drafting?  By head games do you mean, the decisions the drivers would be making or something else? 
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2007, 09:11:31 PM »



Because it's all about 43 guys trying to be in first place.


Bingo.

Nat., it's a "race".  The body of it may be as you described, but the goal, or the meat of it is no different than any other.
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2007, 09:11:40 PM »

All you need to watch is the last 1/2 of the last lap. Wink Cheesy

But how am I supposed to know when that is? 
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2007, 09:13:18 PM »

All you need to watch is the last 1/2 of the last lap. Wink Cheesy

But how am I supposed to know when that is? 

Switch channels, when the final pairing putts out on 17.
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2007, 09:13:58 PM »



Because it's all about 43 guys trying to be in first place.


Bingo.

Nat., it's a "race".  The body of it may be as you described, but the goal, or the meat of it is no different than any other.

Okay.


'Nother question.  How long is the beginning stage?  How long is the end stage?  The middle is the majority, I'm sure, but what about the others?
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2007, 09:15:23 PM »

All you need to watch is the last 1/2 of the last lap. Wink Cheesy

But how am I supposed to know when that is? 

Switch channels, when the final pairing putts out on 17.

Would I miss the end of the golf tourney then?
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