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Dune v. Star Wars

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Question: Greatest sci-fi universe ever created v. original ideas optional
Herbert - Dune - 3 (60%)
Lucas - Star Wars - 2 (40%)
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Dune v. Star Wars
« on: October 30, 2007, 07:12:25 PM »

Dys almost had me posting a Irulan v. Leah poll but I know how you guys can't resist danish.  Figured I'd broaden it up a bit and go with the very best sci-fi universe ever created v. the obnoxiously transparent copy.  Come to think of it, I might have had better luck with the first idea.

Man, are you lot gonna cream me on this one.   Wink

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Re: Dune v. Star Wars
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2007, 07:37:14 PM »

Neither. Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2007, 07:42:04 PM »

So, how's your mom's basement these days?
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2007, 07:46:24 PM »

So, how's your mom's basement these days?

You know, typical young lad decor.  Posters and whatnot. 



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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2007, 07:50:42 PM »

Best Sting line EVAR:

'I will kill him, I WILL!!!!'

Lord, what a piece of crap that movie was. Then SciFi managed to make a mini-series that was arguably WORSE, an incredible achevement, really.
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2007, 07:55:49 PM »

The first movie ruined my mind's eye depiction for years.  It honestly took 3-4 subsequent readings of the series to erase. 

Started watching the SFC version but quit after about an hour. 

The novels are too good - especially the original.  It's a book that should never have been made into a movie.
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2007, 08:00:16 PM »

What I've heard is the son has managed to run the family bidness into the ground from the compound up in the San Juans, but I haven't read anything past the first 2.

I was more of a Bradbury/Heinlein guy, and Hollywood *fudge*ed Heinlein's Starship Troopers up REALLY bad...
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2007, 08:08:59 PM »

What I've heard is the son has managed to run the family bidness into the ground from the compound up in the San Juans, but I haven't read anything past the first 2.

I was more of a Bradbury/Heinlein guy, and Hollywood *fudge*ed Heinlein's Starship Troopers up REALLY bad...

There are two sons.  Brian is an author and building on his father's work.  Not super great stuff but worth reading. 

I don't know about the other son much nor about the self sustaining eco-chit that Frank started.  I do know there's some serious "dad loved you more than me" action going on with perhaps some real truth to it.  Might be tough to live with an uber-genius I expect.  Especially if you don't measure up.

Segue.  I'll be driving through Florence, OR in about 32 days.  That's where Dune got its start with a piece Herbert wrote titled They Stopped the Moving Sands about efforts to keep the dunes from drifting destructively.  I always think about that when I go through there.
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Re: Dune v. Star Wars
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2007, 08:13:16 PM »

Recused, for never watching Dune. (or reading it I guess.  Isn't it a book, or something also?  Whatever)

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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2007, 09:18:59 PM »

It's a book that should never have been made into a movie.
I've never read the book, but upon this point I think we can both agree.
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2007, 09:21:56 PM »

What I've heard is the son has managed to run the family bidness into the ground from the compound up in the San Juans, but I haven't read anything past the first 2.

I was more of a Bradbury/Heinlein guy, and Hollywood *fudge*ed Heinlein's Starship Troopers up REALLY bad...

There are two sons.  Brian is an author and building on his father's work.  Not super great stuff but worth reading. 

I don't know about the other son much nor about the self sustaining eco-chit that Frank started.  I do know there's some serious "dad loved you more than me" action going on with perhaps some real truth to it.  Might be tough to live with an uber-genius I expect.  Especially if you don't measure up.


The other son died of AIDS in 1993, and was a well known homer****ual advocate and gadfly.
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2007, 12:55:38 AM »

I saw the movie as a kid and didn't know what the heck was going on.  I later saw a much lengthier "director's cut" of the lynch movie and enjoyed it more. (I was also older).

Finally read the book for the first time in college and loved it, but sadly many of the scenes as I imagined them were shaped by the movie.
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2007, 06:59:24 AM »


The other son died of AIDS in 1993, and was a well known homer****ual advocate and gadfly.


Sorta like Count Fenring albeit without the whole genetic-eunuch, mentat-killer, failed Kwisatz Haderach baggage.
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2007, 07:04:19 AM »

Dune for me.

And I really can't place my finger on why I like it more than the Star Wars universe. Maybe it's the chick with the all blue eyes, or the spice drug aspect of it, or maybe I just like flying fat men who have doctors that attend to their sores.

Since today is Halloween it's only right that I should tell you that, for two years post military I dressed up as the beast Rabban (can't find image), it wasn't nearly as cool as Stroh's terminator, but since we had our own "spice" it was just fine.

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It's the talking Va-jay-jay...that's what I like. The spice must flow.
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2007, 07:24:22 AM »

This is a scream.
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