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Re: Legacy
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2008, 08:12:25 PM » |
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It's Jules' way of politely letting you know that you've put on weight.
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Re: Legacy
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2008, 08:17:40 PM » |
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Walfredo
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Re: Legacy
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2008, 08:30:34 PM » |
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I want my son to be able to attend the best schools and have every opportunity to make it, like I'm sure everyone else here does. After that I want to retire comfortably and hopefully by then he won't need my money.
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For hither not, I am the stallion.
Come fear, come love, I am the stallion.
You know that I am the stallion, mang.
I am, I am the stallion, mang.
You know that I am the stallion, mang.
I live, I walk, I am the stallion, mang.
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PaunchyBald
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Re: Legacy
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2008, 08:35:17 PM » |
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You should see me running the dust mop over the hardwood. Scalding my hands in the dishwater, and sorting colours for the laundry. Clive is dreamy, isn't he?.........................  |
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Clive
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Re: Legacy
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2008, 08:49:18 PM » |
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You should see me running the dust mop over the hardwood.  |
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Re: Legacy
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2008, 09:51:05 PM » |
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seems i'm in the contrarian mode today. must be something in the water. while I appreciate (and recognize) what nice things my 'rents did have and could afford me... and the work they laid out to make them happen.... {make no mistake, it's certainly a more comortable childhood/life than 99.99% of humans that ever lived before have had) it certainly was in no way elite by the 'western civilization' late 20th century standard... that said, i recognize now if sal and i ever have kids, we'll be in no position to leave them anything at all, even should we choose to (unless i die early and life insurance pays off) . the best we could do for them is maybe* school/college . whoopdeedoo. yes, i am one of those who will not have as good a life as their parents (straight up middle class through and through... until 2005 anyways)  And it seems my day to argue with aske  In short - stop the pessimism man! While I did not complete a PhD, I did spend almost 6 years in college (Blutarsky anyone?) with two majors, two minors, and a year in grad school (before deciding, perhaps incorrectly, that being a 'programmer' was not for me). It was a full 3 years after that before I made enough money to buy a damned thing. My golf clubs were a Northwestern starter set purchased at 'BigBoxMart' - and the 7 iron was broken. Get a grip - it ain't that bad  And looking at the monetary aspects of having children is not the way to go - everyone I've heard from on the subject says 'you'll find a way, don't worry'. Have patience - perhaps you'll do well enough to bitch about taxes  |
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stroh
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Re: Legacy
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2008, 05:47:17 AM » |
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You should see me running the dust mop over the hardwood. LMAO! +1 |
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PaunchyBald
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Re: Legacy
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2008, 06:13:10 AM » |
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You should see me running the dust mop over the hardwood.  stalker......... |
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Aske
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Re: Legacy
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2008, 08:21:31 AM » |
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seems i'm in the contrarian mode today. must be something in the water. while I appreciate (and recognize) what nice things my 'rents did have and could afford me... and the work they laid out to make them happen.... {make no mistake, it's certainly a more comortable childhood/life than 99.99% of humans that ever lived before have had) it certainly was in no way elite by the 'western civilization' late 20th century standard... that said, i recognize now if sal and i ever have kids, we'll be in no position to leave them anything at all, even should we choose to (unless i die early and life insurance pays off) . the best we could do for them is maybe* school/college . whoopdeedoo. yes, i am one of those who will not have as good a life as their parents (straight up middle class through and through... until 2005 anyways) And it seems my day to argue with aske In short - stop the pessimism man! While I did not complete a PhD, I did spend almost 6 years in college (Blutarsky anyone?) with two majors, two minors, and a year in grad school (before deciding, perhaps incorrectly, that being a 'programmer' was not for me). It was a full 3 years after that before I made enough money to buy a damned thing. My golf clubs were a Northwestern starter set purchased at 'BigBoxMart' - and the 7 iron was broken. Get a grip - it ain't that bad And looking at the monetary aspects of having children is not the way to go - everyone I've heard from on the subject says 'you'll find a way, don't worry'. Have patience - perhaps you'll do well enough to bitch about taxes appreciate your kind words and optimism, but I just don't see the reasons to be so rosy. I certainly stand poised to admit i picked the wrong career path- if the metric of judgment is financially (not that I ever thought I would become ultra-rich in this career) the odds are very very long that the meager skill set I have (which I admit to developing because i both was good at and enjoyed) is going to be useful to even 0.001% of potential employers. Further, with enhanced competition thanks to more h1b visas, for example, it's even tougher odds- why hire that 'merkan who would demand decent pay? That's not to say I expect to be given* anything. Just that it sucks that everything i've done is likely for nothing. The odds are overwhelming that in 5 years I will not be employed to my skillset's 'potential'- an inefficiency both to me, and at the sake of ego-stroking, potentially society in general. oh, and even if i do 'make it', ... the field i am in, the maximum pay anywhere (and that would be in my 40's to 50's, certainly not now ) would put me in the 25% bracket at most. right now i'd gladly take that pay raise and agree to never bitch about being taxed at 25% on it |
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Aske
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Re: Legacy
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2008, 08:26:22 AM » |
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Aske, I think UB is on the right track, your a smart man..................I'm sure you could do something else if you wanted to. But than again you studied for years to get where you are now. (Aren't you a college professor).
well, it's good to see I have everyone here fooled regarding 'smarts'. I can only wish I were a professor, at least I'd have security in knowing i might earn career stability, even if it's only at a mid-level pay scale. the problem is there are few professorial opportunities based on my expertise, and further, I am a poor teacher as I am severely impatient trying to communicate with those who do not grasp (what seem to me to be) simple concepts. Aske knowing what you do now, would you still have taken the same study/career options that you did, when you were a young boy.
no, I wouldn't. i would not pick this career path or advise anybody else to, know matter how much they enjoy it or they excel at it. i don't know what else i would choose, but it would be something else for certain. in retrospect, anything that is not likely to be downsizable or offshorable within my lifetime. |
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Re: Legacy
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2008, 09:14:37 AM » |
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seems i'm in the contrarian mode today. must be something in the water. while I appreciate (and recognize) what nice things my 'rents did have and could afford me... and the work they laid out to make them happen.... {make no mistake, it's certainly a more comortable childhood/life than 99.99% of humans that ever lived before have had) it certainly was in no way elite by the 'western civilization' late 20th century standard... that said, i recognize now if sal and i ever have kids, we'll be in no position to leave them anything at all, even should we choose to (unless i die early and life insurance pays off) . the best we could do for them is maybe* school/college . whoopdeedoo. yes, i am one of those who will not have as good a life as their parents (straight up middle class through and through... until 2005 anyways) And it seems my day to argue with aske In short - stop the pessimism man! While I did not complete a PhD, I did spend almost 6 years in college (Blutarsky anyone?) with two majors, two minors, and a year in grad school (before deciding, perhaps incorrectly, that being a 'programmer' was not for me). It was a full 3 years after that before I made enough money to buy a damned thing. My golf clubs were a Northwestern starter set purchased at 'BigBoxMart' - and the 7 iron was broken. Get a grip - it ain't that bad And looking at the monetary aspects of having children is not the way to go - everyone I've heard from on the subject says 'you'll find a way, don't worry'. Have patience - perhaps you'll do well enough to bitch about taxes appreciate your kind words and optimism, but I just don't see the reasons to be so rosy. I certainly stand poised to admit i picked the wrong career path- if the metric of judgment is financially (not that I ever thought I would become ultra-rich in this career) the odds are very very long that the meager skill set I have (which I admit to developing because i both was good at and enjoyed) is going to be useful to even 0.001% of potential employers. Further, with enhanced competition thanks to more h1b visas, for example, it's even tougher odds- why hire that 'merkan who would demand decent pay? That's not to say I expect to be given* anything. Just that it sucks that everything i've done is likely for nothing. The odds are overwhelming that in 5 years I will not be employed to my skillset's 'potential'- an inefficiency both to me, and at the sake of ego-stroking, potentially society in general. oh, and even if i do 'make it', ... the field i am in, the maximum pay anywhere (and that would be in my 40's to 50's, certainly not now ) would put me in the 25% bracket at most. right now i'd gladly take that pay raise and agree to never bitch about being taxed at 25% on it Picked the wrong thread to post this in: http://www.golfhos.com/to...g83528;topicseen#msg83528Things work out. You seemed focused on your skill set relating to specific future employment. There are thousands of people every year who switch career paths. You can't think of it in the black and white. I graduated with a B.S. in Mechanical Engineering. I haven't done "engineering" in 10 years. But a lot of the skills I developed (problem solving, project management, etc.) are readily transferable to many other fields. |
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Seamus
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Re: Legacy
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2008, 10:14:09 AM » |
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I certainly stand poised to admit i picked the wrong career path   the meager skill set I have is going to be useful to even 0.001% of potential employers And that would be, let me get out my cackalater, exactly .001% more than me.  My legacy to my children will be the same legacy my parents left me. Unconditional love, the aforementioned roof over their heads and food in their stomachs, a safe place to always come back to if they need. They have had everything they have needed even if it's not exactly what they may have wanted. They respect all people, people of color and different nationalities and more importantly they respect themselves. They have had two parents living in the same house happily married for 22 years that have and will always love and care for them, they both have a very high level of self esteem, and a wonderful sense of humor they understand how funny sarcasm can be if applied properly and without malice. They know how to balance a checkbook and spend within their limits, they both are excellent workers and productive members of society. They both are starting to understand how and what it takes to survive in the world. My job is almost done, I just need to make sure they don't end up with complete ass hats now, and then I can rest. The pursuit of money has never been a driving force in my life, it gets you stuff, which can be nice but it is just stuff, I don't think I'll ever be able to retire (although I had a wicked good interview with the State yesterday), and I don't know if I'll be able to leave them much, other than everything I've listed and more that I'm sure I'm missing. Hopefully it's enough. |
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stroh
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Re: Legacy
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2008, 10:20:06 AM » |
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I certainly stand poised to admit i picked the wrong career path the meager skill set I have is going to be useful to even 0.001% of potential employers And that would be, let me get out my cackalater, exactly .001% more than me. My legacy to my children will be the same legacy my parents left me. Unconditional love, the aforementioned roof over their heads and food in their stomachs, a safe place to always come back to if they need. They have had everything they have needed even if it's not exactly what they may have wanted. They respect all people, people of color and different nationalities and more importantly they respect themselves. They have had two parents living in the same house happily married for 22 years that have and will always love and care for them, they both have a very high level of self esteem, and a wonderful sense of humor they understand how funny sarcasm can be if applied properly and without malice. They know how to balance a checkbook and spend within their limits, they both are excellent workers and productive members of society. They both are starting to understand how and what it takes to survive in the world. My job is almost done, I just need to make sure they don't end up with complete ass hats now, and then I can rest. The pursuit of money has never been a driving force in my life, it gets you stuff, which can be nice but it is just stuff, I don't think I'll ever be able to retire (although I had a wicked good interview with the State yesterday), and I don't know if I'll be able to leave them much, other than everything I've listed and more that I'm sure I'm missing. Hopefully it's enough. Very well written. +1. Also articulates exactly my sentiments/position. |
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Re: Legacy
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2008, 10:23:41 AM » |
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I certainly stand poised to admit i picked the wrong career path the meager skill set I have is going to be useful to even 0.001% of potential employers And that would be, let me get out my cackalater, exactly .001% more than me. My legacy to my children will be the same legacy my parents left me. Unconditional love, the aforementioned roof over their heads and food in their stomachs, a safe place to always come back to if they need. They have had everything they have needed even if it's not exactly what they may have wanted. They respect all people, people of color and different nationalities and more importantly they respect themselves. They have had two parents living in the same house happily married for 22 years that have and will always love and care for them, they both have a very high level of self esteem, and a wonderful sense of humor they understand how funny sarcasm can be if applied properly and without malice. They know how to balance a checkbook and spend within their limits, they both are excellent workers and productive members of society. They both are starting to understand how and what it takes to survive in the world. My job is almost done, I just need to make sure they don't end up with complete ass hats now, and then I can rest. The pursuit of money has never been a driving force in my life, it gets you stuff, which can be nice but it is just stuff, I don't think I'll ever be able to retire (although I had a wicked good interview with the State yesterday), and I don't know if I'll be able to leave them much, other than everything I've listed and more that I'm sure I'm missing. Hopefully it's enough. Very well written. +1. Also articulates exactly my sentiments/position. Agreed. Very well writen Seamus. |
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Aske
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Re: Legacy
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2008, 11:46:13 AM » |
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Picked the wrong thread to post this in: http://www.golfhos.com/to...g83528;topicseen#msg83528Things work out. You seemed focused on your skill set relating to specific future employment. There are thousands of people every year who switch career paths. You can't think of it in the black and white. I graduated with a B.S. in Mechanical Engineering. I haven't done "engineering" in 10 years. But a lot of the skills I developed (problem solving, project management, etc.) are readily transferable to many other fields. Fuzz, nice thoughts.. and certainly something i've thought about myself and scan jobs listings for almost daily. The thing is, i'd be willing to bet (dunno what) if i sent you my resume, you'd agree that if I can't find a job relative to my real explicit skills, i'm not employable at anything else above a data entry/equivalent type job. Thats the problem of someone who does direct line undergrad-phd-postdoc. No real world job experience at anything- since there's no time gaps filled in there. Sure, I could probably go get training and do something else, I suppose, but I doubt I'll be motivated enough (timewise.. as I already work about 60 hours M-F believe it or not) to do so until I literally have no other choice. Maybe i'm just unrealistic and underestimate myself.  or maybe I really am that overspecialized/underskilled. Just wish I knew. The biggest issue that stresses me about all this and probably set off my barrage of postings, is the last 12 months have shown me that I'm in no position to offer what Seamus is describing... to anyone that should become dependant on me (an issue completely unrelated to whether Sal and I have kids... ) which is very likely to occur within 2-3 years . |
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