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further proof that petey crisco is a dope
« on: February 20, 2008, 09:08:43 AM » |
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http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10652300unless i had THE #1,2,or 3 pick in the draft, I would seriously consider Barber for that sacrifice of a 1st and 3rd if I desperately need a RB. definitely one of the top 5 in the league at his position, something you have no guarantee of when drafting anyone outside of those 1,2,3 range (and even then, it doesn't always pan out)
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Re: further proof that petey crisco is a dope
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2008, 09:14:28 AM » |
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Agreed.
We need a receiver. Preferably one that can catch footballs.
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Re: further proof that petey crisco is a dope
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2008, 09:15:52 AM » |
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Agreed.
We need a receiver. Preferably one that can catch footballs.
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Re: further proof that petey crisco is a dope
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2008, 09:29:13 AM » |
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I think I'm actually on the other side on this one. RB's can be found - hello Ryan Grant. A 1st and 3rd are two starters.
I may do it if my 1st rounder was late but I'm guessing Dallas would want more.
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Re: further proof that petey crisco is a dope
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2008, 09:29:23 AM » |
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LOL Jackson's  ahead of schedule according to Brad Clueless. |
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Re: further proof that petey crisco is a dope
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2008, 09:37:00 AM » |
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I think I'm actually on the other side on this one. RB's can be found - hello Ryan Grant. A 1st and 3rd are two starters.
I may do it if my 1st rounder was late but I'm guessing Dallas would want more.
good running backs are typically 'found' . 'great/elite' backs typically not so much. i'd put barber as 1 season away from that level. perhaps it depends on how you assess his value at this point. he initiates contact, is a phenomenal blocker, reads cutbacks well, and is almost unstoppable inside the 5. he's exactly the type of RB that can possibly still produce and help a team that is rebuilding on the OL, for example. i will concede all his career stats are basically while on split carry duty. perhaps as a feature back he would decline due to more energy burned and more contact, but it's hard to call. i will also concede he does not have homerun speed that most prototypical RBs should have, but his ability to extend plays off the swing/screen pass combined with his size/strength over cornerbacks at least partially offsets this because safeties have to cheat a bit in tackling support.... anyways, i guess my point is if I had the 10-15 pick, and was going to draft a RB, i'd REALLLLY consider just signing barber and dumping the 3rd round pick. he also has about 550 career touches with only 6 fumbles- none of which were actually lost. |
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Re: further proof that petey crisco is a dope
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2008, 09:38:48 AM » |
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jones is an idiot. *fiddlesticks* dallas.
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Re: further proof that petey crisco is a dope
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2008, 09:42:38 AM » |
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LOL Jackson's ahead of schedule according to Brad Clueless. what's his schedule? to become a 90.0 passer by 2011?  |
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Re: further proof that petey crisco is a dope
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2008, 09:52:27 AM » |
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i'd give the Kevin Jones and a first.  |
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Re: further proof that petey crisco is a dope
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2008, 09:53:08 AM » |
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I think I'm actually on the other side on this one. RB's can be found - hello Ryan Grant. A 1st and 3rd are two starters.
I may do it if my 1st rounder was late but I'm guessing Dallas would want more.
good running backs are typically 'found' . 'great/elite' backs typically not so much. i'd put barber as 1 season away from that level. perhaps it depends on how you assess his value at this point. he initiates contact, is a phenomenal blocker, reads cutbacks well, and is almost unstoppable inside the 5. he's exactly the type of RB that can possibly still produce and help a team that is rebuilding on the OL, for example. i will concede all his career stats are basically while on split carry duty. perhaps as a feature back he would decline due to more energy burned and more contact, but it's hard to call. i will also concede he does not have homerun speed that most prototypical RBs should have, but his ability to extend plays off the swing/screen pass combined with his size/strength over cornerbacks at least partially offsets this because safeties have to cheat a bit in tackling support.... anyways, i guess my point is if I had the 10-15 pick, and was going to draft a RB, i'd REALLLLY consider just signing barber and dumping the 3rd round pick. Agree with this premise. I'd probably do the same. It's just that there have been too many RB's who have 3-5 years and that's it. I'm in the camp that they are somewhat easily replaceable and good ones are out there in sufficient quantity. I know this is sacrilege on this board (hi Torp!) but Chester Taylor, Ryan Grant, etc. are perfect examples of why spending a lot for an RB doesn't have to be a priority. Now.........all bets are off on the elite Tomlinson, Peterson types. Its just that they are few and far between. |
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Re: further proof that petey crisco is a dope
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2008, 09:58:20 AM » |
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I think I'm actually on the other side on this one. RB's can be found - hello Ryan Grant. A 1st and 3rd are two starters.
I may do it if my 1st rounder was late but I'm guessing Dallas would want more.
good running backs are typically 'found' . 'great/elite' backs typically not so much. i'd put barber as 1 season away from that level. perhaps it depends on how you assess his value at this point. he initiates contact, is a phenomenal blocker, reads cutbacks well, and is almost unstoppable inside the 5. he's exactly the type of RB that can possibly still produce and help a team that is rebuilding on the OL, for example. i will concede all his career stats are basically while on split carry duty. perhaps as a feature back he would decline due to more energy burned and more contact, but it's hard to call. i will also concede he does not have homerun speed that most prototypical RBs should have, but his ability to extend plays off the swing/screen pass combined with his size/strength over cornerbacks at least partially offsets this because safeties have to cheat a bit in tackling support.... anyways, i guess my point is if I had the 10-15 pick, and was going to draft a RB, i'd REALLLLY consider just signing barber and dumping the 3rd round pick. Agree with this premise. I'd probably do the same. It's just that there have been too many RB's who have 3-5 years and that's it. I'm in the camp that they are somewhat easily replaceable and good ones are out there in sufficient quantity. I know this is sacrilege on this board (hi Torp!) but Chester Taylor, Ryan Grant, etc. are perfect examples of why spending a lot for an RB doesn't have to be a priority. Now.........all bets are off on the elite Tomlinson, Peterson types. Its just that they are few and far between. one interesting thing i would like to see on peterson's long term career -- whether it's really surface related, or more of just the home field advantage, but he's averaging almost 1 ypc more on turf than on grass. |
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Re: further proof that petey crisco is a dope
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2008, 10:01:37 AM » |
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I blame Bryant McKinnie.
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