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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2008, 07:44:34 AM » |
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multiplying peterson over to parkers career stats (for touches) and he will have 4 more lost fumbles at the same point in his career. And how many more TD's?  when you consider 1/2 of his games are indoor, that is simply unacceptable, regardless of his exceptional TD potential/performance .
But yet 2 TD's and 4 fumbles is okay for someone that is supposed to be a probowler.  tds: .023 / touch vs .051 (yes, peterson has a big edge here, partly due to himself, partly due to the vikes not having many other scoring threats)
Even our backup RB Taylor had 5 more TD's than Parker, and T.Jack out rushed Parker by one TD too. |
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2008, 07:47:12 AM » |
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I think 99 percent of people say that around 60 percent of statistics can usually almost nearly always say what you want to look like you believe your point may or may not be. At least half the time.
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2008, 07:52:30 AM » |
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I think 99 percent of people say that around 60 percent of statistics can usually almost nearly always say what you want to look like you believe your point may or may not be. At least half the time.
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2008, 07:54:30 AM » |
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2008, 07:59:54 AM » |
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that's ok torpedo, keep up with the blind hero worship syndrome and lose sight of the greater perspective. here's some more "meaningless" stats: since parker joined the steelers: 3 playoffs, 2 division titles, 2 AFC title game apperances, and a Super Bowl victory since peterson joined the vikes: no playoffs we'll compare these after peterson has had 4 seasons with the vikes.  my prediction, the ratio of parkers superbowl yards to petersons will still be infinite |
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2008, 08:00:12 AM » |
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with tlame, yep
Parker's the lame one, double the fumbles? He shouldn't be in the NFL.  Parker's TD rate is artificially low and by a significant amount. Inside the five he doesn't really even play. Bettis was plugged in to ram in the score and after him it was Najeh. Remember when Parker ran something like 85 yards only to be knocked out at the one. Someone else got the TD. Parker almost led the league in yards (probably would have barring the late season injury) but he has to get his scores on 30 yard runs. He's lucky he got two. Plus, as aske mentioned, the Steelers have other threats such as a quarterback and receivers.  I like Peterson, how could you not? But it's folly to compare TD stats between a player whose team absolutely depends on him for scoring against another whose team routinely gives him a breather in scoring situations. Torp, it's a major foul the Vikings haven't sent you a free AD jersey by now. |
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Torpedo
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2008, 08:17:33 AM » |
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Parker's TD rate is artificially low and by a significant amount. Inside the five he doesn't really even play.
Yep, he's not an overall back like AD who can take it to the house on any given play, but *also* run through an entire defense to get the short goal line TD's.  Remember when Parker ran something like 85 yards only to be knocked out at the one.
Slow poke. Parker almost led the league in yards (probably would have barring the late season injury) but he has to get his scores on 30 yard runs.
No he would have got 2nd, because as long as were playing "ifs" then if AD would have started the 4 games he didn't and not gotten injured AD would have been the leagues leading rusher ... as a rookie. He's lucky he got two. Plus, as aske mentioned, the Steelers have other threats such as a quarterback and receivers. They did last year too, that is a bad excuse to drop down to 13 less TD's than the year before. But it's folly to compare TD stats between a player whose team absolutely depends on him for scoring against another whose team routinely gives him a breather in scoring situations.
AD was running against 8-9 even 10 men in the box all game long, being the only focus, and still got 13 TD's, with the Steelers and teams focusing also on Big Ben, (something Peterson doesn't get) Parker should have been able to get at least get a respectable amount of TD's ... at least not double the fumbles. Not that 4 is a lot of fumbles, but for any starter (especially a probowl RB) to get less TD's than fumbles is not too good. Torp, it's a major foul the Vikings haven't sent you a free AD jersey by now. I know, mind telling them that? Maybe even suggest one of everyone on the team? They wouldn't go to waste with me. |
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2008, 08:29:58 AM » |
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aske doesn't have a poorly maintained field to stand on in this argument 7-9 is probably about the best the Packers can hope for this year. |
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2008, 08:31:11 AM » |
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LOL. Dude, you're incorrigible. The passion of youth... |
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2008, 08:34:40 AM » |
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LOL. Dude, you're incorrigible. The passion of youth... 19-0 this year, just you watch. |
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2008, 08:35:56 AM » |
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LOL. Dude, you're incorrigible. The passion of youth... 19-0 this year, just you watch. See me post above. |
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2008, 08:40:03 AM » |
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See me post above.
Can't see posts from people you have blocked. |
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2008, 08:44:14 AM » |
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LOL. Dude, you're incorrigible. The passion of youth... 19-0 this year, just you watch. put your $ where your keyboard is a $10 bet in vegas on that would probably pay out in the millions |
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #43 on: April 18, 2008, 08:45:39 AM » |
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put your $ where your keyboard is
a $10 bet in vegas on that would probably pay out in the millions
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Re: NFL 2008-2009 Season
« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2008, 09:04:55 AM » |
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See me post above.
Can't see posts from people you have blocked. So since you have me on ignore (which is readily obvious by your quoting me  ) and you can't see this anyway: If the Vikings don't go 19-0 this season would you at least, half the time, talk realistically when it comes to sports? I know all about being a fan and having high hopes (I am from Buffalo) but it would be nice to have an intelligent conversation with you regarding these things instead of what we get now. You are a very intelligent person and I know loves football as do most of us. Being able to hear your side when you are rationally thinking would be very enjoyable. Maybe then you might take me off ignore. |
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