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WHAT, they are not perfect ?
« on: May 31, 2007, 05:15:59 PM »

http://www.detnews.com/ap...20070531/AUTO01/705310379  Shocked Cool
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2007, 06:40:29 PM »

It seems that those trucks are American-made, american made. Grin
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Re: WHAT, they are not perfect ?
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2007, 06:53:54 PM »

Blame the robots.

My friend/neighbor/golfbuddy has a lemon Tundra.
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2007, 07:03:30 PM »

honda >> all !
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2007, 07:05:26 PM »

Blame the robots.
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2007, 07:07:32 PM »

It seems that those trucks are American-made, american made. Grin

no, those trucks are American assembled. there is a difference.  Wink
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Re: WHAT, they are not perfect ?
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2007, 07:11:58 PM »

here is the important thing.

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Company spokesman Bill Kwong said Toyota realized in February that there was a problem with the camshafts delivered by a supplier for the 5.7-liter engine, and the automaker ordered the necessary changes to production.

so the whole time that they have been running those our trucks are the greatest ad's, they've been trying to control this behind the scenes.
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2007, 06:52:30 AM »


so the whole time that they have been running those our trucks are the greatest ad's, they've been trying to control this behind the scenes.
And this really surprises you? What company doesn't do this?

In my business there is a real quality difference between "American made" and overseas. It has to do with culture and not the quality of the worker. The Asian culture has much more pride in the job then in the US. Over there it's more about the product or the company, or both. Over here it is more about "me and what do I get out of it". US workers in general complain more and just want to get paid, to them it's just a job. In Asia it's their life, they take great pride in what they do, and accept the compensation  they get.

Does this mean it is the same for all businesses? Not necessarily, but I wouldn't doubt it. I don't hate 'merca but Asian companies don't make good products without a reason for it. Engineers design, workers put it together.

Just for the record I do own 2 Chevys. 
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Re: WHAT, they are not perfect ?
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2007, 07:15:14 AM »

here is the important thing.

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Company spokesman Bill Kwong said Toyota realized in February that there was a problem with the camshafts delivered by a supplier for the 5.7-liter engine, and the automaker ordered the necessary changes to production.

so the whole time that they have been running those our trucks are the greatest ad's, they've been trying to control this behind the scenes.

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Narrator: A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

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Re: WHAT, they are not perfect ?
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2007, 07:33:12 AM »

"It's really tough," said Karl Brauer, editor of Edmunds.com, an automotive research Web site. "Engine failure kills a car's ability to run and it's not a simple thing to fix."



I think Hot Karl is on to something there. Roll Eyes




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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2007, 09:13:47 AM »

here is the important thing.

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Company spokesman Bill Kwong said Toyota realized in February that there was a problem with the camshafts delivered by a supplier for the 5.7-liter engine, and the automaker ordered the necessary changes to production.

so the whole time that they have been running those our trucks are the greatest ad's, they've been trying to control this behind the scenes.

Somehow I don't think "Our trucks are pretty good but have some potential engine problems we're still trying to work out" would make for very good commercials. Very tough to write a jingle, and I don't think Bob Seger recorded any songs to that effect either.

Just for the record, I don't own any "American Made" cars and doubt I will in the foreseeable future (unless it's my classic muscle car). If I were in the market for a heavy duty truck I'd probably buy a Ford, and some of the newer "muscle cars" are kind of cool as Sunday drivers but Detroit has yet to produce a single commuter car or light truck/SUV at which I would look twice.

I don't think it's unrealistic to assume that Toyota's rushing a flawed product to market probably isn't the first time an auto manufacturer has done so, Big 3 included. I also seriously doubt this single incident will be enough to completely besmirch Toyota's reputation. (My boss drives a Tundra that he beats the hell out of and it's rock solid. He was formerly an "American made only" guy, but now claims to be a Toyota driver for life.)
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