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BCS Q.
« on: December 03, 2007, 07:55:50 AM »

I don't follow this much at all, but did Hawaii get screwed?

I'm guessing SOS plays a big part, but how does a 12-0 team not play for the National Championship?
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2007, 08:17:25 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2007, 08:41:07 AM »

Because NOBODY (but their fans) thinks they are one of the best two teams in the nation.

Missouri got screwed worse, no BCS game while Kansas got one.
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2007, 08:55:47 AM »

I don't think they're one of the top teams in the nation either, but they still got jobbed.

They came in to the season ranked #23, went undefeated and a team with 2 losses is playing for the so called 'champeenship'

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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2007, 09:14:46 AM »

I don't think they're one of the top teams in the nation either, but they still got jobbed.

They came in to the season ranked #23, went undefeated and a team with 2 losses is playing for the so called 'champeenship'

The funny thing is that the team with 2 losses and lower ranking is favored to beat the team with 1 loss and higher ranking.

Right now, I think OU could beat either one of those teams.
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2007, 09:18:57 AM »

I don't think they're one of the top teams in the nation either, but they still got jobbed.

They came in to the season ranked #23, went undefeated and a team with 2 losses is playing for the so called 'champeenship'

The funny thing is that the team with 2 losses and lower ranking is favored to beat the team with 1 loss and higher ranking.

Right now, I think OU could beat either one of those teams.
I think so too but we had our chance to be there.  It is really tough to beat LsuckU in New Orleans though.  Funny how they always win there championships when they are held there. 

But hey Notre Dame has a longer winning streak than both the teams in the National Championship.  They seriously should just call if off and not have a "champion" this year.
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2007, 09:43:34 AM »

No, they should have one of the best teams with 1 loss play the participating undefeated team and then vote, assuming said undefeated team loses.

If they win, problem solved.

The whole thing is as corrupt as the Harding administration, but that's typical of the NCAA's 21st century brand of neo-professional sports.
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2007, 10:06:10 AM »

Isn't Hawaii in the WAC.  And the WAC is not a BCS conference so no they shouldn't get a "shot".  If they get one then what's next the winner of the MAC gets a chance next year. 
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2007, 10:25:21 AM »

Isn't Hawaii in the WAC.  And the WAC is not a BCS conference so no they shouldn't get a "shot".  If they get one then what's next the winner of the MAC gets a chance next year. 

Uh, didn't a WAC team beat the Sooners last season in a BCS bowl game? Fresno State, a WAC team, went into College Station this year and lost by 2 points. UT played aTm while the Aggies were in the midst of a 3-game losing streak, and the Horns lost by 8 points.

The WAC isn't a BCS conference, but the top-tier WAC teams have proven that they can play against the big dogs.
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2007, 10:27:21 AM »

From my research, it seems they pick 4 "at large" teams.  Actually 3 because the East Conf. gets an automatice bid as an at large team.

The at large temas come from mid-level schools including the WAC.

If I'm interpretting it correctly.  Tongue

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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2007, 10:30:19 AM »

No, they should have one of the best teams with 1 loss play the participating undefeated team and then vote, assuming said undefeated team loses.

If they win, problem solved.

The whole thing is as corrupt as the Harding administration, but that's typical of the NCAA's 21st century brand of neo-professional sports.

The NCAA has nothing to do with administration of the bowls. 

As a matter of fact, antitrust concerns keep the NCAA at arms length from having anything to do with running the bowls and specifically from establishing any sort of playoff contest, which is viewed as a specific threat by the bowl interests. 

In other words, even if the "neo-professionals" at the NCAA wanted a playoff, they'd be squashed in their tracks by lawyers at the Walt Disney Co and those representing the 28 independent bowls.
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2007, 10:31:32 AM »

Isn't Hawaii in the WAC.  And the WAC is not a BCS conference so no they shouldn't get a "shot".  If they get one then what's next the winner of the MAC gets a chance next year. 

Uh, didn't a WAC team beat the Sooners last season in a BCS bowl game? Fresno State, a WAC team, went into College Station this year and lost by 2 points. UT played aTm while the Aggies were in the midst of a 3-game losing streak, and the Horns lost by 8 points.

The WAC isn't a BCS conference, but the top-tier WAC teams have proven that they can play against the big dogs.
Um yeah it but it took a *goshdarn* statue of liberty play for that to happen.  And we weren't that good last year.
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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2007, 10:38:29 AM »

No, they should have one of the best teams with 1 loss play the participating undefeated team and then vote, assuming said undefeated team loses.

If they win, problem solved.

The whole thing is as corrupt as the Harding administration, but that's typical of the NCAA's 21st century brand of neo-professional sports.

The NCAA has nothing to do with administration of the bowls. 

As a matter of fact, antitrust concerns keep the NCAA at arms length from having anything to do with running the bowls and specifically from establishing any sort of playoff contest, which is viewed as a specific threat by the bowl interests. 

In other words, even if the "neo-professionals" at the NCAA wanted a playoff, they'd be squashed in their tracks by lawyers at the Walt Disney Co and those representing the 28 independent bowls.

If the NCAA runs a football "national championship" tournament, the schools are not obliged to play in it. They could still opt to play in bowl games. I don't think the NCAA should be concerned about antitrust issues. Besides, each playoff game could be held at one of the existing bowl venues and be organized by the existing bowl committee.
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2007, 10:46:17 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2007, 10:53:38 AM »

Isn't Hawaii in the WAC.  And the WAC is not a BCS conference so no they shouldn't get a "shot".  If they get one then what's next the winner of the MAC gets a chance next year. 

Uh, didn't a WAC team beat the Sooners last season in a BCS bowl game? Fresno State, a WAC team, went into College Station this year and lost by 2 points. UT played aTm while the Aggies were in the midst of a 3-game losing streak, and the Horns lost by 8 points.

The WAC isn't a BCS conference, but the top-tier WAC teams have proven that they can play against the big dogs.
Um yeah it but it took a *goshdarn* statue of liberty play for that to happen.  And we weren't that good last year.
It sure sounds like you're saying that OU didn't deserve to be in a BCS bowl game despite getting the automatic bid for being champions of one of the BCS conferences.  Cheesy
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